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Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jan 18 @ 1:19 PM ET
ITs not just JVR and McC. its a new coach, a defensive system, a healthy Riemer, an extra year of improvment for all our players. The addition of Kadri, eventually Frattin ( I remember when I was called a moron for suggesting Kadri would make the team over Fratting, and I mean, like, flamed to the point of harrassment. Glad to see the coach and me are on the same page.)
- Aquaman_2400


We had that coach and those players last year too. At this point you're assuming they're better, but until proven otherwise, you have to judge the team based on last year. Burke made this same mistake, thinking with Kessel there was no way those picks would result in a Seguin. Lets not assume please.
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jan 18 @ 1:19 PM ET
I know like get Crosby, Malkin, Webber, Chara and Lundqvist already - what is the big (frank)ing hold up!
- BlowMonkey


Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jan 18 @ 1:19 PM ET
Tony Ambrogio ‏@SNTonyAmbrogio

Carlyle on Orr: Colton Orr brings protection...good work ethic...strong leadership qualities. He's earned it

- faceto27

...and this is what I like about Carlyle.
Work hard-earn your rewards, no more hand-outs.
Frattin didn't earn it-Komarov did.
It's about time there is some goddam accountability.
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jan 18 @ 1:20 PM ET
I can't find the Gillis rant, maybe Esplen will put something up.
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jan 18 @ 1:21 PM ET
...and this is what I like about Carlyle.
Work hard-earn your rewards, no more hand-outs.
Frattin didn't earn it-Komarov did.
It's about time there is some goddam accountability.

- Barx

Agreed, I love that Connolly got booted even after the heart to heart with Carlyle. As if he tried to talk his way onto the team, if Carlyle was any softer it could have happened.
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jan 18 @ 1:21 PM ET
I can't find the Gillis rant, maybe Esplen will put something up.
- Leafland


ZOMG GOOGLE BROWER YOU LOOSER.

Even if Ian does, he'll spin it to suit his biased purposes.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 18 @ 1:23 PM ET
ZOMG GOOGLE BROWER YOU LOOSER.

Even if Ian does, he'll spin it to suit his biased purposes.

- Gunslinger


It's the way you talked to the other guy that rewarded you a dumb reply from me.



BTW, Gillis was on team 1040, http://www.teamradio.ca/.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 18 @ 1:23 PM ET
I can't find the Gillis rant, maybe Esplen will put something up.
- Leafland

What was he ranting about?
D.Lemieux
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TRADE ME RIGHT FRANKING NOW
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jan 18 @ 1:24 PM ET
Agreed, I love that Connolly got booted even after the heart to heart with Carlyle. As if he tried to talk his way onto the team, if Carlyle was any softer it could have happened.
- Leafland


Agreed like what we are seeing from Caryle so far. No BS.
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jan 18 @ 1:24 PM ET
Agreed, I love that Connolly got booted even after the heart to heart with Carlyle. As if he tried to talk his way onto the team, if Carlyle was any softer it could have happened.
- Leafland

exactly.
Connolly wasn't willing to go that extra mile and Carlyle knows each and every man needs to buy into the system.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 18 @ 1:24 PM ET
ITs not just JVR and McC. its a new coach, a defensive system, a healthy Riemer, an extra year of improvment for all our players. The addition of Kadri, eventually Frattin ( I remember when I was called a moron for suggesting Kadri would make the team over Fratting, and I mean, like, flamed to the point of harrassment. Glad to see the coach and me are on the same page.)
- Aquaman_2400


Its time for Kadri to do something to show he belongs or its over for him as a leaf.
Hes on the opening night roster, but that doesnt mean he is successful or ends up being the better player than Frattin.

A lot of things have to go right for the leafs to make the playoffs, Kessel and Lupul have to repeat, Goaltending has to improve, the team has to buy into the new system, JVR has to stay healty, Kulemin needs to score more than 7 goals, Grabovski needs to get off to a better start. Some of them will happen, but almost all of them need to happen for the leafs to even think of the playoffs. The odds are not in our favor
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 18 @ 1:25 PM ET
I know like get Crosby, Malkin, Webber, Chara and Lundqvist already - what is the big (frank)ing hold up!
- BlowMonkey


We don't trade youngsters for older players.

Crosby, Malkin, Weber, Doughty and Price are who we're after. Duh!
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jan 18 @ 1:25 PM ET
It's the way you talked to the other guy that rewarded you a dumb reply from me.



BTW, Gillis was on team 1040, http://www.teamradio.ca/.

- Pecafan Fan


Yea, that was a bad flop you did there. Sorry there were witnesses. You tried at least. Most people wouldnt have.
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jan 18 @ 1:25 PM ET
You would have to be smoking crack in order to think JVR isnt going to see some major pp time.
- Aquaman_2400


that;s why earlier posts had him on 1st PP
KaceTy
Joined: 01.17.2013

Jan 18 @ 1:26 PM ET
I know like get Crosby, Malkin, Webber, Chara and Lundqvist already - what is the big (frank)ing hold up!
- BlowMonkey


Those are the only proven players that you know? You're a moron. How many names changed teams in this shortened offseason?
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jan 18 @ 1:26 PM ET
...and this is what I like about Carlyle.
Work hard-earn your rewards, no more hand-outs.
Frattin didn't earn it-Komarov did.
It's about time there is some goddam accountability.

- Barx

Exactly! People just think Frattin should be with Leafs no matter what.
I like the fact that hes been sent down.
Aquaman_2400
Location: seahorse village, ON
Joined: 01.05.2013

Jan 18 @ 1:26 PM ET
Burke took other teams problems and projects

JVR - Injury prone, big but not tough, has not come close to living up to a #2 pick expectations. a def gamble for the leafs
Kessel - Solid player, the cost is too much, and not the player to start a rebuild with
Phaneuf - questionable leadership, spotty def play, has been an overall disappointment. The price was right
Lupul - A dump by Ana. Burke lucked out here, lupul has to repeat though, and is also not that young anymore, but the time the leafs make the playoffs he will be >30

- senstroll


JVR had a broken foot and a concussion. Basically freak injuries that could happen to anyone, even Trevor Linden. Does NOT make him any more injury prone than anyone who straps razor blades to their feet and goes out on ice with a six foot long stick to go as fast as possible against some of the biggest and most physically dominating men in the world. Top line skills and a steal of a trade.

Kessel- Massivley underrated. Hasnt hit his peak. 4th in league scoring until Lupul injured. Did it without a centre or a good second line to take the heat off. Will eventually score 50. Don't care about the cost. It is what it is.

Lupul - still in his late 20s. Or as is called by the informed, just entering his prime. If Quick is a star based off one year, then so is Lupul.

Phaneuf - I saved him for last because what you wrote about him was a joke. Questionable leadership? Do you know him? Does he call you at home? Are you a dolphin? I mean, no one can judge a guys leadership if hes not on the team. Its the most annoying thing - except plus minus - that people bring up. Last year Phaneuf had an AMAZING year considering the team he was on. He has brought more than expected and Burkes aquisition of him has to go down as the most lopsided trade in franchise history and that includes the Gilmour trade. Phanuef ., like Kessel, gets hated on and I don't get it. This guy should be a fan favorite he is awesome.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 18 @ 1:26 PM ET
Yea, that was a bad flop you did there. Sorry there were witnesses. You tried at least. Most people wouldnt have.
- Gunslinger


May I ask.... Why do you always have to be such a (frank)ing blowhard?
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jan 18 @ 1:26 PM ET
What was he ranting about?
- LeftCoaster

I'm listening to it now, not much of a rant at all.
BlowMonkey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.14.2006

Jan 18 @ 1:27 PM ET
We don't trade youngsters for older players.

Crosby, Malkin, Weber, Doughty and Price are who we're after. Duh!

- lumlums

I suck at this GM stuff.
ILoveLamp
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jan 18 @ 1:27 PM ET


2 years ago, the Philadelphia Flyers were backed by a young, talented goalie named Bobrovsky. They didn't win the Cup or make it past the second round, and the first thing Holmgren did come the offseason, wasn't have a press conference with the infamous "we believe in him" speech (one that has echoed LeafsTV several times regarding Reimer and Gustavsson) ... But he went out, addressed the problem and brought in an all star netminder like Bryzgalov.

- KaceTy


Only problem with that? To be able to spend that much on a goaltender, Holmgren had to move some contracts out. He chose to ship out M. Richards, and J. Carter, as they were considered players that were not focused, and not committed to the team environment. He didn't believe they could win. That same year, both went on to hoist the Stanley Cup, and the Flyers still have a problem in net.

Knee jerk reactions are a poor way to manage a team
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jan 18 @ 1:28 PM ET
May I ask.... Why do you always have to be such a (frank)ing blowhard?
- Pecafan Fan


Because sensitive ladyboys need to call the 5 headed truth monster something. There are no villians here. Just victims of sensitivity and low self esteem.

I asked for someone else for links and quotes to claims being made and you joined in and went off the deepend. Yea...
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jan 18 @ 1:29 PM ET
I suck at this GM stuff.
- BlowMonkey


So does Gillis.
Aquaman_2400
Location: seahorse village, ON
Joined: 01.05.2013

Jan 18 @ 1:30 PM ET
Someone who reads a lot of comments, I can say without a doubt that this is wrong, all wanted to see Kadri get a chance as well as Frattin not one over the other.
- LeafMan



No man, its actually true. I said someting like "Frattin is good but overrated and Kadri is hated on for no reason. Kadri is a way, way better prospect"

Something like that.
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jan 18 @ 1:31 PM ET
Agreed, I love that Connolly got booted even after the heart to heart with Carlyle. As if he tried to talk his way onto the team, if Carlyle was any softer it could have happened.
- Leafland


I think it was as a result of it. Apparently Connolly wanted a bigger role (naturally) and if it wasn't going to be there he may have asked to get out.
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