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Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jan 18 @ 12:33 PM ET
Incorrect.

I believe the leafs are the youngest team in the NHL.

- dragus84


your belief is incorrect.
Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Jan 18 @ 12:33 PM ET
Did he???? 2 goals in last 14 games probably says otherwise.
- burn


I hadn't seen him much since his good start to the season. I stand corrected.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jan 18 @ 12:33 PM ET
Was Nonis on air anywhere? Presser? Hornsby quoting him on twitter, no idea where the presser/interview was.
- gravyface



Watching now on LeafsTV
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jan 18 @ 12:33 PM ET
Greg Brady ‏@bradyfan590
For pure self-ridicule, in the East picked: 1.BOS 2.NYR 3.WAS 4.PIT 5.PHA 6.BUF 7.CAR 8.MTL 9.TB 10.FLA 11.WPG 12.OTT 13.NYI 14.NJ 15.TOR



- burn


Please Burnsie. I love you man.

Just one favour I ask of you. Please never again quote Brady or mention his name. Since we slayed the Berger dragon, GB is my #1 hated guy...even more than Simmons.

I just cant stand him.
Aquaman_2400
Location: seahorse village, ON
Joined: 01.05.2013

Jan 18 @ 12:33 PM ET
Wow.
- Leafland



I hope you sincerely mean "wow" and that youre actually learning something here. If not I hope you realize that firing a guy and then retaining his top assistans, the rest of his front office, all his scouts and his coach is hardly an indictment of his hockey team. This was pure corperate BS. At the least he shoulda got his full five years before being judged on whether or not he did a good job. I mean, Kadri hasnt played as a regular yet, JVR hasnt played a game for him, Rielly still needs time and then there's Ashton, Colbourne, Finn, Percy, Biggs, etc. Plus whatever he woulda done this season. Just seems to me that even if you think Burke was doing poorly, he still deserved time to let it play out because as of right now, its too early to condemn him.
dragus84
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 07.25.2012

Jan 18 @ 12:34 PM ET
your belief is incorrect.
- Barx


I would bet that they are closer to the youngest team in the NHL then they are to the middle of the pack
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jan 18 @ 12:34 PM ET
I hadn't seen him much since his good start to the season. I stand corrected.
- Jeffmt

Still had 9 points in those 14 games. He just slowed down scoring goals a bit.
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jan 18 @ 12:34 PM ET
I agree but I kind of think Grabbo and JVR with Kadri as the set up man (though playing the wing Kariya style) is too exciting to not happen. I like the way the team looks. I like they kept orr. I like that Steckel is probably gonna be in the press box. I think we might see some trade action sooner then later though.
- Aquaman_2400


he's been pretty average to below average with marlies. McKegg is outplaying him.
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jan 18 @ 12:34 PM ET
He refused at first. Agreed.

That said, he has been rebuilding properly the last two seasons. Im not saying Burke didnt fail, just correcting the inaccuracy of that first comment.

- Gunslinger

I was talking about Burkes 4 year tenure not just the last couple seasons.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jan 18 @ 12:34 PM ET
What are your standings?
- Pecafan Fan



the exact opposite?
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jan 18 @ 12:34 PM ET
Greg Brady ‏@bradyfan590
For pure self-ridicule, in the East picked: 1.BOS 2.NYR 3.WAS 4.PIT 5.PHA 6.BUF 7.CAR 8.MTL 9.TB 10.FLA 11.WPG 12.OTT 13.NYI 14.NJ 15.TOR



- burn

I hope the Leafs finish 8 to 10 so I can (frank)ing laugh at all the "Leaf fans" who wish them to lose.
Aquaman_2400
Location: seahorse village, ON
Joined: 01.05.2013

Jan 18 @ 12:35 PM ET
nobody could have....hence why burke should have kept his big mouth shut and not made promises he cant keep.
is the team trucclent? nope.
is it built from the net out? nope.
are they hard to play against? nope.

Burke failed. The end.

- Barx



Like I said, low information voters rock.
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jan 18 @ 12:35 PM ET
I hope you sincerely mean "wow" and that youre actually learning something here. If not I hope you realize that firing a guy and then retaining his top assistans, the rest of his front office, all his scouts and his coach is hardly an indictment of his hockey team. This was pure corperate BS. At the least he shoulda got his full five years before being judged on whether or not he did a good job. I mean, Kadri hasnt played as a regular yet, JVR hasnt played a game for him, Rielly still needs time and then there's Ashton, Colbourne, Finn, Percy, Biggs, etc. Plus whatever he woulda done this season. Just seems to me that even if you think Burke was doing poorly, he still deserved time to let it play out because as of right now, its too early to condemn him.
- Aquaman_2400

He's gone.

What would he have done with Connolly and Lombardi?
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jan 18 @ 12:35 PM ET
your belief is incorrect.
- Barx


He is right actually.

http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams
t_leafs21
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Nylander - Matthews - Marner, forever, ON
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jan 18 @ 12:35 PM ET
Burke refused to rebuild properly and failed. Hopefully Nonis will have the patience Burke lacked.
The Leafs aren't young and they certainly aren't exciting.
They are a mid-aged, low skill team with very few blue chip prospects.
Listen, I lovem as much as the next fan, but you need a wee dose of reality.

- Barx



What are you talkin about?

Kessel 25, Kulemin 26, JVR 23, Kadri 22, Komarov 25.

Other than Steckel who is 30. The rest of our forwards are 27-29.


Defense. Liles is 32 and Komisarek is 31. Phaneuf,Kostka,Gunnarsson and Holzer are all 27,26.

Gardiner is 22.

Reimer is 24 and still an RFA after next season.

Just because were not the Edmonton Oilers doesn't mean were not a young team. I agree that alot of people need a dose or reality. Were top 5-7 in youth for sure. It really would be in our best interest to bottom out this year.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jan 18 @ 12:36 PM ET
Please Burnsie. I love you man.

Just one favour I ask of you. Please never again quote Brady or mention his name. Since we slayed the Berger dragon, GB is my #1 hated guy...even more than Simmons.

I just cant stand him.

- Gunslinger



Oh, I know...... He's totatally useless.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 18 @ 12:36 PM ET
the exact opposite?
- burn


Obviously...
daws44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.08.2010

Jan 18 @ 12:36 PM ET
No sorry, totally incorrect. Burke refused to (and had too much honour and integrity) make the team better in the short term. Its his plan and theyre still following it. He made the product on the ice way way better. Its dissapointing to see people say he didnt. Whats better Kessel Phaneuf and JVR or Antropov Kaberle and Stajan? Come on! Bottom line is that he revamped this organization and I for one am more excited about this team then I have ever been. Its young, exciting and we get to watch them grow together. Just because his roster hasnt had success yet doesnt mean that it wouldnt in the future.
- Aquaman_2400


Resistence is futile.
Your logic will fall on deaf ears.
Hockeybuzz leaf threads are a haven for halfwits.
I suggest you stop posting as I have and just read along for a laugh.
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jan 18 @ 12:37 PM ET
I was talking about Burkes 4 year tenure not just the last couple seasons.
- Barx


Yea. So if you're going to go by that, he spend half quick fixing, then half rebuilding. So you werent being accurate by saying he refused to rebuild.
dragus84
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 07.25.2012

Jan 18 @ 12:37 PM ET
He is right actually.

http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams

- Gunslinger


Thank you
dragus84
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 07.25.2012

Jan 18 @ 12:37 PM ET
He is right actually.

http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams

- Gunslinger


Thank you
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jan 18 @ 12:37 PM ET
What are your standings?
- Pecafan Fan


I think it'll be close to what it was last year: MTL, TOR, NYI will be duking it out for last place in the East.
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jan 18 @ 12:38 PM ET
He is right actually.

http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams

- Gunslinger

not with the team they are icing on Saturday.
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jan 18 @ 12:38 PM ET
Yea. So if you're going to go by that, he spend half quick fixing, then half rebuilding. So you werent being accurate by saying he refused to rebuild.
- Gunslinger

Burke stated he refused to rebuild...his words not mine.
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jan 18 @ 12:39 PM ET
not with the team they are icing on Saturday.
- Barx



Why not? That age included Connolly.

They will be the youngest or second youngest team in the league. Either way his point is valid. You're just being difficult about it now.
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