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Forums :: Blog World :: Eklund: Are Leafs Actually Targeting Jamie Benn? Subban Update..
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GregMorris
Joined: 07.02.2010

Jan 18 @ 8:45 AM ET
Leafs get Benn

Leaf Fans reacton: Good Move by the Leafs

Rest of Hockey fans on Hockey Buzz: LOL LOL LOL Jaime Benn is a bust the Leafs made a stupid move should have gotten Luongo instead.

- Bruinsfan9329



What????
cracka
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fomalhaut b
Joined: 11.04.2007

Jan 18 @ 8:45 AM ET
I think Nonis is doing the right thing so far by clearing out Lombardi and Connolly.

He'll let the fringe players play, evaluate over a short season and go from there next June.

Tank a short season, wait for Luonguo to get bought out instead of trading for him then sign him as an UFA for 4 years instead of 10, draft top 5 again, sign Getzlaf and Perry to 7 years $49 mil contracts nd its off to the races next year.

Perry Getzlaf JVR
Lupul Grabovski Kessel

One can dream.....
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 18 @ 8:45 AM ET
To answer question 2 first. The Habs have a history of refusing those long term contracts. Typically what they do is have the player on an ELC and then when that expires they sign them to one of those shorter 2-3 year deals, typically 2. They did this with Higgins, Eller, Emelin, Pacioretty, Price, Diaz, Gorges, and many more.

If you look at all of those guys as well each of them had a bruidge contract in the $1.25-$2.75 million range, including Price and Pacioretty. In other words they don't sign players to UFA type money until their 3rd contract.

As for what Subban is asking nobody really knows. What is certain is that it is north of $5 million, most speculate around $6 million. What is also certain is that he is looking for a minimum 5 year contract. he wants contract term and length right away.

- willey101


Thats just how it is in todays NHL, right or wrong. Its not Subban alone, so you cant take it personal. Just about all the young future stars are signing long term deals for big dollars these days. I do agree that big dollars and contracts should be earned, not handed out on potential, but im not a GM.
hooligoon
Location: BBB Bring Burke Back
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jan 18 @ 8:46 AM ET
If Benn is actually available 29 other teams will have crazy offers for him that the leafs wouldn't be able to compete with.
- Scruffton


Not if we replaced Nonis with Alex Andreopoulos. He'd make a deal Dallas can't refuse. Say hello to my little friend
JACMAN
Joined: 02.10.2010

Jan 18 @ 8:46 AM ET
As long as the BS is flying.
Gardiner and Lupul for Benn.
We know Carlyle is not fussy on Lupul (entering last year of contract)and they can slip JVR on the left side with Kessel and Benn. Gardiner is smooth, but soft (Reilly coming next year to replace Gardiner's role).
Would you do it?
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jan 18 @ 8:46 AM ET
Depending on the quality of the high end talent. Also depending on quality of high end goalies.

Maybe you trade down, maybe you trade an asset to get another first rounder.

I have not looked at this years draft class close enough.

- 50 Mission Cap



I miss B.Huddle for these things....
GregMorris
Joined: 07.02.2010

Jan 18 @ 8:47 AM ET
Leafs dont have the horses to land Benn. Unless your talking about trading Kessel straight up.

No way Nonis trades any 1sts

- bobbyflex



I would trade Kessel for Benn any day and every day.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jan 18 @ 8:47 AM ET
But with Reily around (or close). Do you think Gardiner is expendable?
- acresd



Ya I could see Nonis trading Gardiner if it's for another young player that fills a need.....

willey101
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Am an addict for Habs talk. i
Joined: 10.06.2005

Jan 18 @ 8:49 AM ET
Thats just how it is in todays NHL, right or wrong. Its not Subban alone, so you cant take it personal. Just about all the young future stars are signing long term deals for big dollars these days.
- systemtool



Yes but it also comes down to every team managing their books, and deciding contracts. Management has also repeatedly said that they will not dish out LTC's either. 6 years is the max they will ever go and so far they have stuck to that.

Habs have all the power in this one. Subban is our best D no doubt and team has a void without him but our team is 1-2 years away from 3 guys filling, albeit to a lesser level, his role and will already have Emelin, Gorges and possibly Diaz on the roster. He is a king in this city but the fans are turning on him quickly.

I really don't think he's gettign what he wants. He needs to take the Kulikov, Del Zotto type of deal with more money per season. I say 2 years at $3 or so then rake it in.
Tee-Dot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: For being Stee's alternate personality or being associated with M. Night Shyamalan?
Joined: 12.11.2008

Jan 18 @ 8:49 AM ET
Not if we replaced Nonis with Alex Andreopoulos. He'd make a deal Dallas can't refuse. Say hello to my little friend
- hooligoon

Never heard of this guy... is he anything like Alex Anthopoulos?
GregMorris
Joined: 07.02.2010

Jan 18 @ 8:49 AM ET
Who cares. The guy racks up points and goals. Trading your best forward for a better forward isnt the answer. The team should be adding to Kessel, not making lateral moves.

Only in Toronto does this crap happen.....

- systemtool


I disagree. Benn would make our mediocre players better. Kessel is more of a last touch puck player. Benn makes the magic happen at a position we don't have anyone for. I would like to have both but I will take the #1 center first and foremost.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 18 @ 8:49 AM ET


So the Leafs trade watch is like the Canucks Cup watch.

- systemtool



46 years should not be chirping
hooligoon
Location: BBB Bring Burke Back
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jan 18 @ 8:50 AM ET
We have to trade him if we cant resign him. Keep him until that happens though. We need all the help we can on this team.
- systemtool


Ok AL
stormey
Location: it is Babsy turning a boy into a man - JL0961
Joined: 10.13.2005

Jan 18 @ 8:51 AM ET
GM Dave Nonuts will quickly learn that Dallas's asking price for Benn is just as steap if not more steap than the Canucks asking price for Lou.

You want a quality star impact player, you've got to pay a premium.

- Green_Gene

WOW!!! THAT MUCH???
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 18 @ 8:51 AM ET
46 years should not be chirping
- VANTEL


Meh. I think Cup winners have a right to chirp Cupless teams who chirp everyone else.

Grow some balls. If you're going to dish it, get ready to take it, otherwise shut your vagina.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 18 @ 8:52 AM ET
I disagree. Benn would make our mediocre players better. Kessel is more of a last touch puck player. Benn makes the magic happen at a position we don't have anyone for. I would like to have both but I will take the #1 center first and foremost.
- GregMorris


Then have both. Dont make it an either/or situation when thats not the case.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 18 @ 8:54 AM ET
Yes but it also comes down to every team managing their books, and deciding contracts. Management has also repeatedly said that they will not dish out LTC's either. 6 years is the max they will ever go and so far they have stuck to that.

Habs have all the power in this one. Subban is our best D no doubt and team has a void without him but our team is 1-2 years away from 3 guys filling, albeit to a lesser level, his role and will already have Emelin, Gorges and possibly Diaz on the roster. He is a king in this city but the fans are turning on him quickly.

I really don't think he's gettign what he wants. He needs to take the Kulikov, Del Zotto type of deal with more money per season. I say 2 years at $3 or so then rake it in.

- willey101


This is going to get ugly...if player and GM think this way.

I can see Philly making an OS. Take the picks and run.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 18 @ 8:54 AM ET
Meh. I think Cup winners have a right to chirp Cupless teams who chirp everyone else.

Grow some balls. If you're going to dish it, get ready to take it, otherwise shut your vagina.

- systemtool



6 team East Coast league . Brag all you want they have never won in the REAL NATIONAL LEAGUE


Go ask your granddaddy to tell you what it was like way back when.
stormey
Location: it is Babsy turning a boy into a man - JL0961
Joined: 10.13.2005

Jan 18 @ 8:55 AM ET
you wouldn't ONLY give up benn.....i suspect it would cost something like

gardiner, 1st rd pick, plus other solid prospect (colborne, biggs, etc)

- sensarmy_11

Not sure Colborne should be considered a solid prospect anymore.
willey101
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Am an addict for Habs talk. i
Joined: 10.06.2005

Jan 18 @ 8:55 AM ET
This is going to get ugly...if player and GM think this way.

I can see Philly making an OS. Take the picks and run.

- systemtool


Indeed. Especially after Meehan has said don't expect him in the line-up anytime soon.

Personally PK is my favorite player but given the issues with the team I sort of hope he stays home, teams sucks and then we get a top 3 pick. Would love to see Drouin or MacKinnon here.

Oh and Philly has apparently offered Talbot and a 1st.......which was immediately decline. I hope Philly offers a contract because it either makes the negotiations easier and done or the deal is so ridiculous that Habs steal the picks and then use them as trade bait.
hooligoon
Location: BBB Bring Burke Back
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jan 18 @ 8:55 AM ET
As long as the BS is flying.
Gardiner and Lupul for Benn.
We know Carlyle is not fussy on Lupul (entering last year of contract)and they can slip JVR on the left side with Kessel and Benn. Gardiner is smooth, but soft (Reilly coming next year to replace Gardiner's role).
Would you do it?

- JACMAN


I wouldn't give Gardiner in this deal. I'd replace him with Frattin & Biggs/Colborne/Ashton or whatever they like. I am day dreaming one day I get rto watch Gardiner and Reilly play together one day since the franking Oilers shot my dream of seeing Shultz & Gards together. So I am down with anything Dalls want but those 2 kids. Take Phaneuf and Lupul and Burke for Benn if you want. Don't touch Gards & Reilly.
jimi james
Location: Somewhere Between
Joined: 07.17.2010

Jan 18 @ 8:56 AM ET
I disagree. Benn would make our mediocre players better. Kessel is more of a last touch puck player. Benn makes the magic happen at a position we don't have anyone for. I would like to have both but I will take the #1 center first and foremost.
- GregMorris

rather have both!!
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 18 @ 8:57 AM ET
6 team East Coast league . Brag all you want they have never won in the REAL NATIONAL LEAGUE


Go ask your granddaddy to tell you what it was like way back when.

- VANTEL


Spoken like a true Canucks fan


Cuplessness hurts this much, huh? *hugs*
Blueman2010
Joined: 08.20.2010

Jan 18 @ 8:57 AM ET
I have a feeling we are going to trade Kadri/Reimer to Edmonton for something like Khabibulin/Omark...
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 18 @ 8:58 AM ET
rather have both!!
- JIMI-JAMES


Common sense has entered the building.

Let me take your coat, good sir.
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