Again, why is everyone so insistent on rushing any prospects, Niño, Cizikas. Or whoever, to the NHL? Just because Niño is playing well In The "A" doesn't mean he's NHL ready. I don't think Cizikas is NHL ready either. This team has ruined Bailey because they rushed him. Why not learn from that mistake and properly develop the rest of our prospects? There's a reason why successful franchises don't rush 19, 20 yr old prospects to the NHL.
- Jethro09

The reason fans want to rucsh these guys is because who else do we have? I rather watch Nino play than these waiver guys I have never heard of. Maybe Garth should pick up actual talent during the offseason like every other GM and we wouldn't have this problem.

The reason fans want to rucsh these guys is because who else do we have? I rather watch Nino play than these waiver guys I have never heard of. Maybe Garth should pick up actual talent during the offseason like every other GM and we wouldn't have this problem.
- mighty13duck

You nailed it. Other teams bring in real talent so there is no need to rush guys. The Isles should be able to do better than just troll the waiver wire. Fans are tired of not getting any enjoyment out of this team.

Well, I would like to think he'd want to have the team win just from a personal pride perspective. Who the hell wants to be associated with a losing team? I think he wants to build a winner, but Wang just has no idea what he's doing. He makes bad hires, bad business decisions and confusing choices that in his mind are probably brilliant, but in reality are flawed and worse, leave this team with a circus perception. Case in point: the entire RDP saga. From the second Wang offered RDP that stupid deal until now, where he continues to refuse to buy him out, wang just keeps making bad decisions.

The circus aptmosphere and perennial losing are the two reasons nobody wants to play on Long Island. Yes, the arena and venue uncertainty played a role, but not to the extent that the losing and aptmosphere did. One way to get better players here is to get rid of the circus aptmosphere. Only Wang can do that.
- Jethro09

100% correct. One of the things I find extremely aggravating about the current state of this team. The losing attitude is what repels players from coming here. What competitive professional athlete would ever want to come here? We are extremely fortunate to have Tavares on this team. I hope this losing environment and attitude turns around soon because it's only a matter of time until he starts getting fed up. Might even start to see some of it this year from him if this season turns to shat quick? Anyone who doesn't think so is fooling themselves.

This week Snow should have gone after the Cody Franson or Jonathan Blum type defensemen not the waiver wire and hope he gets lucky. Both Franson and Blum have a lot of upside but play on teams that are either deep defensively (Nashville) or have big contracts they can't get rid of (Toronto).

The reason fans want to rucsh these guys is because who else do we have? I rather watch Nino play than these waiver guys I have never heard of. Maybe Garth should pick up actual talent during the offseason like every other GM and we wouldn't have this problem.
- mighty13duck

I think it's because we are all desparate to see something good. A glimmer of hope

The reason fans want to rucsh these guys is because who else do we have? I rather watch Nino play than these waiver guys I have never heard of. Maybe Garth should pick up actual talent during the offseason like every other GM and we wouldn't have this problem.
- mighty13duck

I understand why fans want to see these prospects, especially over waiver wire crap. But that's about the worst reason to rush a prospect to the NHL. Garth has failed miserably in bringing in veteran talent since he became GM, aside from one or two waiver wire pick ups and the free agent signing of Streit. He has done a good job of restocking a farm system from a point of embarrassment to a point of strength. Yes, Snow needs to supplement the roster with veteran talent. But when he fails to do so, he can't rush his prospects though and crush their development just to give the fans what they want.

I understand why fans want to see these prospects, especially over waiver wire crap. But that's about the worst reason to rush a prospect to the NHL. Garth has failed miserably in bringing in veteran talent since he became GM, aside from one or two waiver wire pick ups and the free agent signing of Streit. He has done a good job of restocking a farm system from a point of embarrassment to a point of strength. Yes, Snow needs to supplement the roster with veteran talent. But when he fails to do so, he can't rush his prospects though and crush their development just to give the fans what they want.
- Jethro09

Snow restocked our prospects. now bring in a GM who can sign Vets.

Snow restocked our prospects. now bring in a GM who can sign Vets.
- mighty13duck

Brian Burke???

Is Jimmy trying for a spot in the Wolfpack?
- ses111

The "Pack" is an equal opportunity Organization.

So, people have a problem with "rushing" Nino, but no problem "rushing" Cizekas or Ullstrom?
- potvin05

I think different types of players develop at a different pace. Just like defensemen typically need more time to develop than forwards, power forwards typically take a little longer to fill out and learn how to use their size against strong NHL players. Cizikas probably should be able to make the jump sooner considering the role he's filling. Also, both Cizikas and Ullstrom have been developing longer than Nino. Nino spent one year in juniors and then got full-time NHL action. Ullstrom is maybe set to have his first full season now, and he was drafted back in 2008. I don't think too many people would say Nino was rushed if he got his first taste of the NHL next season, and his first full-time NHL roster spot the year after. That's been Ullstrom's schedule. And if Nino was on Cizikas' schedule, Niederreiter would have been in juniors last year, in Bport this year with a few NHL games thrown in, then vying for a full-time spot next season.

Brian Burke???
- jimmc7722

Sather, look what he did with Gomez and Drury

The "Pack" is an equal opportunity Organization.

- SCLI

We need all the help we can get

I understand why fans want to see these prospects, especially over waiver wire crap. But that's about the worst reason to rush a prospect to the NHL. Garth has failed miserably in bringing in veteran talent since he became GM, aside from one or two waiver wire pick ups and the free agent signing of Streit. He has done a good job of restocking a farm system from a point of embarrassment to a point of strength. Yes, Snow needs to supplement the roster with veteran talent. But when he fails to do so, he can't rush his prospects though and crush their development just to give the fans what they want.
- Jethro09

You are right but we all know these kids aren't being rushed for the fans entertainment. They're being rushed to fill cap space because they aren't competent enough to get real NHL talent. I'm sure you are aware and didn't think i was enlightening you with this but felt the need to state the obvious anyway.

We need all the help we can get
- Cptmjl

Naa.

We hold our own. Our views speak for themselves. Disagreement is fine. It fuels this site.

The past few days have been some of the best exchanges I've seen on here in years.

AND little to no arguing, insulting or back stabbing! Just honest exchanges of opinion.

A lot of good natured ribbing and quite a few laughs.

Whats become of this Blog!!!!

Again, why is everyone so insistent on rushing any prospects, Niño, Cizikas. Or whoever, to the NHL? Just because Niño is playing well In The "A" doesn't mean he's NHL ready. I don't think Cizikas is NHL ready either. This team has ruined Bailey because they rushed him. Why not learn from that mistake and properly develop the rest of our prospects? There's a reason why successful franchises don't rush 19, 20 yr old prospects to the NHL.
- Jethro09

.....just blissfully ignore my posts that were literally 10 minutes before the one you quoted....

My point was....why does everyone get their panties in a bunch when we "rush" Nino, but no seems to give a poop when we "rush" a Cizekis or an Ullstrom?

All 3 of them are pretty much the same (frank)ing age and, ironically enough, Nino is the biggest one out of the 3.

A lot of good natured ribbing and quite a few laughs.


- SCLI

I enjoyed some of the comments...the picture of the big top and the misfit toys were very funny...

.....just blissfully ignore my posts that were literally 10 minutes before the one you quoted....

My point was....why does everyone get their panties in a bunch when we "rush" Nino, but no seems to give a poop when we "rush" a Cizekis or an Ullstrom?

All 3 of them are pretty much the same (frank)ing age and, ironically enough, Nino is the biggest one out of the 3.
- potvin05

But how is Ullstrom being "rushed" when he was drafted in 2008 and is just now vying for a longer-term roster spot...but still is not guaranteed anything once players come back? When Bailey and Joensuu come back, Ullstrom can just as easily be sent back down if he hasn't shown anything as Aucoin can. I think Ullstrom's timeline has been just fine. He's had time in the AHL and has had success there. He wasn't thrown straight from Europe onto the NHL roster. I'm as big of a critic as anyone when someone's thrown completely unprepared into the NHL. I think Nino and Ullstrom are very different cases as far as how they were handled.

I think different types of players develop at a different pace. Just like defensemen typically need more time to develop than forwards, power forwards typically take a little longer to fill out and learn how to use their size against strong NHL players. Cizikas probably should be able to make the jump sooner considering the role he's filling. Also, both Cizikas and Ullstrom have been developing longer than Nino. Nino spent one year in juniors and then got full-time NHL action. Ullstrom is maybe set to have his first full season now, and he was drafted back in 2008. I don't think too many people would say Nino was rushed if he got his first taste of the NHL next season, and his first full-time NHL roster spot the year after. That's been Ullstrom's schedule. And if Nino was on Cizikas' schedule, Niederreiter would have been in juniors last year, in Bport this year with a few NHL games thrown in, then vying for a full-time spot next season.
- UIF

I don't really disagree with most of your post, I was just pointing out the double standard that seems to be floating around when it comes to Neiderreiter. I don't want these guys "rushed" along neither, but it's been almost three years since he was drafted and he's a big (frank)ing kid. He, in his own words that I read the other day, says he has his full confidence back, so why not give him a crack in the top 6?

I've only seen Ciziekis play in the NHL, but he's small. That's where I have a bit of an issue where Islanders fans get to "pick-and-choose" who's getting quote-unquote rushed. Ideally, we'd be able to pick some halfway decent UFAs and none of this would be an issue and we wouldn't have to discuss it in these thread, but that's the state of the team right now. I'd rather "rush" Nino, then say...Strome, Nelson or Reinhart.

But how is Ullstrom being "rushed" when he was drafted in 2008 and is just now vying for a longer-term roster spot...but still is not guaranteed anything once players come back? When Bailey and Joensuu come back, Ullstrom can just as easily be sent back down if he hasn't shown anything as Aucoin can. I think Ullstrom's timeline has been just fine. He's had time in the AHL and has had success there. He wasn't thrown straight from Europe onto the NHL roster. I'm as big of a critic as anyone when someone's thrown completely unprepared into the NHL. I think Nino and Ullstrom are very different cases as far as how they were handled.
- UIF

Does anyone actually read my whole post, or just read as sentence or two and then hit "reply."

I don't feel as if ANY OF THEM are being rushed. I'm sorry for the minor frustration, but I didn't think I needed to spell this out for anyone. Any of them, meaning the three players I have mentioned. It's the picking and choosing of who our fans THINK are being rushed onto the ice. If Nino was 6-1. 175 lbs, then, yes, I'd question bringing him up, but he's God damn 6-5, 230. He's 21 years old. He was drafted 3 years ago.

Does anyone actually read my whole post, or just read as sentence or two and then hit "reply."

I don't feel as if ANY OF THEM are being rushed. I'm sorry for the minor frustration, but I didn't think I needed to spell this out for anyone. Any of them, meaning the three players I have mentioned. It's the picking and choosing of who our fans THINK are being rushed onto the ice. If Nino was 6-1. 175 lbs, then, yes, I'd question bringing him up, but he's God damn 6-5, 230. He's 21 years old. He was drafted 3 years ago.
- potvin05

No... why do you feel like everybody is being rushed???

Dee... where's the new blog?

You gave us 3 a day during the lockout... then today, the first day of the season...NOTHING!!!!

It's 3:01pm.... Drop the Puck!!!

Snow restocked our prospects. now bring in a GM who can sign Vets.
- mighty13duck

Its not the GM that cant sign them, its the franchise

XxNYIxX

No... why do you feel like everybody is being rushed???
- jimmc7722

thanks, I needed that.
Sorry to blow off a little steam. Jethro and UIF are 2 guys who I'm usually on point with.

thanks, I needed that.
Sorry to blow off a little steam. Jethro and UIF are 2 guys who I'm usually on point with.
- potvin05

Stop trying to rush our kids!!!


XxNYIxX

You are right but we all know these kids aren't being rushed for the fans entertainment. They're being rushed to fill cap space because they aren't competent enough to get real NHL talent. I'm sure you are aware and didn't think i was enlightening you with this but felt the need to state the obvious anyway.
- Cptmjl

Whatever the reason, it's never a good idea to rush a prospect. bailey and Niño last year were shining examples of why.