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mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jan 18 @ 2:15 PM ET
what about bob?
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 18 @ 2:16 PM ET
what about bob?
- mydoglicks

i miss him
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jan 18 @ 2:16 PM ET
what about bob?
- mydoglicks


Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jan 18 @ 2:17 PM ET

- bradleyc4


mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jan 18 @ 2:18 PM ET
laughton was wearing either 39 or 49 last night at practice, was a little blurrry
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jan 18 @ 2:19 PM ET
i miss him
- Crimsoninja

is he starting in colombus?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 18 @ 2:22 PM ET
laughton was wearing either 39 or 49 last night at practice, was a little blurrry
- mydoglicks


That was prob just the training camp number he was assigned. Once you make the roster that normally changes. For example, in G's first stint with the team, he wore 56 but when he made the team permanently, he went to the more normal number of 28
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jan 18 @ 2:23 PM ET
is he starting in colombus?
- mydoglicks


battle between him and Mason. They're supposed to name their opening night starter today.
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jan 18 @ 2:33 PM ET
what about bob?
- mydoglicks

mdl in the haus
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jan 18 @ 2:59 PM ET
Accelerated compliance buyout for Redden vs a June compliance buyout? I thought the buyouts couldn't happen until June? Also, why do the Rangers get a cap hit?
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jan 18 @ 3:15 PM ET
Accelerated compliance buyout for Redden vs a June compliance buyout? I thought the buyouts couldn't happen until June? Also, why do the Rangers get a cap hit?
- jstross


nhl quickly decided that teams could have 1 compliance buyout prior to the season starting, so guys like Redden and Gomez wouldn't be sitting at home.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jan 18 @ 3:17 PM ET
nhl quickly decided that teams could have 1 compliance buyout prior to the season starting, so guys like Redden and Gomez wouldn't be sitting at home.
- bradleyc4


Ok, so there's atill 2 buyouts total? No cap hit for buyouts in June, right?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 18 @ 3:17 PM ET
Accelerated compliance buyout for Redden vs a June compliance buyout? I thought the buyouts couldn't happen until June? Also, why do the Rangers get a cap hit?
- jstross

Essentially, the idea is they can perform the compliance buyout now, still have the cap hit for the year, and the player can sign elsewhere. It's an alternative to sending said player home to collect a paycheck to not play (which was the plan, the Rangers didn't want to risk him getting injured in the AHL).
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 18 @ 3:20 PM ET
Ok, so there's atill 2 buyouts total? No cap hit for buyouts in June, right?
- jstross

Still two total, teams may only use one of their buyouts now.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jan 18 @ 3:21 PM ET
mdl in the haus
- aightwebang17


jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jan 18 @ 3:25 PM ET
Thanks guys, makes perfect sense.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 18 @ 3:42 PM ET
Essentially, the idea is they can perform the compliance buyout now, still have the cap hit for the year, and the player can sign elsewhere. It's an alternative to sending said player home to collect a paycheck to not play (which was the plan, the Rangers didn't want to risk him getting injured in the AHL).
- BulliesPhan87


Also, the cap hit goes away next season and the big difference, teams using an accelerated compliance buyout must pay the player the full dollar value of the remaining contract, rather than the 2/3rds if they were bought out in summer.

So, Redden & Gomez will get paid whatever amount was left on their deal, where a guy bought out in June will get 66% of the remaining cash
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 18 @ 3:50 PM ET
Meszaros is the key. He needs to get healthy and elevate his puck moving and offensive game. It's a tough task considering the circumstances.
- MJL

this
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 18 @ 4:12 PM ET
this
- JoeRussomanno


Seeing him in practice on Wednesday, you have to expect he might struggle at the beginning with mobility and conditioning. He just seemed like he was struggling with certain types of skating. Struggling compared to other NHL skaters, not a schlub skater like me mind you.


The area around his achilles will be weak but I don't think reinjury is a factor. Hopefully he can power through it and get up to speed quickly.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 18 @ 4:17 PM ET
Seeing him in practice on Wednesday, you have to expect he might struggle at the beginning with mobility and conditioning. He just seemed like he was struggling with certain types of skating. Struggling compared to other NHL skaters, not a schlub skater like me mind you.


The area around his achilles will be weak but I don't think reinjury is a factor. Hopefully he can power through it and get up to speed quickly.

- MBFlyerfan

If he can get back to anywhere near 100% it will be a huge shot in the arm for that dcorps, that's for sure.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 18 @ 4:18 PM ET
Seeing him in practice on Wednesday, you have to expect he might struggle at the beginning with mobility and conditioning. He just seemed like he was struggling with certain types of skating. Struggling compared to other NHL skaters, not a schlub skater like me mind you.


The area around his achilles will be weak but I don't think reinjury is a factor. Hopefully he can power through it and get up to speed quickly.

- MBFlyerfan


Meszaros is a little more than 5 months removed from achilles surgery. Not sure the extent of the tear, but this is one of the quicker returns I have seen. Having torn both my achilles tendons, 5 months post surgery my ass was still behind a desk.

I really hope he isn't rushing back. Surgeons say once the achilles heals post surgery there is no greater risk of injury had the tendon never been operated on. If Meszaros isn't fully healed there is a risk for him to tear it again.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 18 @ 4:19 PM ET
Meszaros is a little more than 5 months removed from achilles surgery. Not sure the extent of the tear, but this is one of the quicker returns I have seen. Having torn both my achilles tendons, 5 months post surgery my ass was still behind a desk.

I really hope he isn't rushing back. Surgeons say once the achilles heals post surgery there is no greater risk of injury had the tendon never been operated on. If Meszaros isn't fully healed there is a risk for him to tear it again.

- PLindbergh31

how much longer do you think he might need? I know achilles tears are serious but its always good to hear from someone who's been through it.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 18 @ 4:23 PM ET
how much longer do you think he might need? I know achilles tears are serious but its always good to hear from someone who's been through it.
- JoeRussomanno


No idea Joe. Not sure the extent of his tear. Also, he's 10 years younger than me and a world class athlete, so his timetable to heal would probably be quicker than mine. Playing NHL hockey puts far more stress on the achilles than what I have to do though. I'm a little concerned he's coming back to early.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 18 @ 4:43 PM ET
No idea Joe. Not sure the extent of his tear. Also, he's 10 years younger than me and a world class athlete, so his timetable to heal would probably be quicker than mine. Playing NHL hockey puts far more stress on the achilles than what I have to do though. I'm a little concerned he's coming back to early.
- PLindbergh31

Maybe Mr. Miyagi fix


ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 18 @ 5:03 PM ET
please Homer, dont draft another center
- vejim



you know he will draft another center
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