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numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jan 17 @ 6:02 PM ET
So did I. Though, less so after the Ramo acquisition.
However, I am completely shocked. Did they perform so badly in camp? Could we not have traded Irving for...anything?

- FLflames34

considering Irving should be at the same level as enroth and lindeback at this point in his career.

I don't think he'll get much unless packaged to a team that has a young goalie that needs a backup and are willing to take a chance on him being a late bloomer. Like Pitts, Mtl, St louis.

KABLOOEY
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.19.2011

Jan 17 @ 6:03 PM ET
he did well in the tourney.

I like the idea of maybe trading him to minny to play with his brother for Coyle. Granlunds a centre, but we need a big soft hands player on the RW just as much (almost more in 3 yrs).

- numbear

I don't know anything about Coyle.
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Jan 17 @ 6:04 PM ET
Erixon is a piece of moldy dog sh!t.

If Horak, Wotherspoon and Granland all have NHL careers, it will go down as a great trade for the Flames.

Hope Erixon is destined for a career in the Swedish "B" league

- scoot174

What is his deal anyway? Does he still have the same agent?
I remember when the trade happened, how Calgary was getting killed for losing it. same with the Phaneuf trade. In hindsight, neither look too bad.
I am willing to admit Phaneuf was a loss, but a much smaller one than the Leeman-type it was made out to be at the time.
And, still holding out hope for a resurgent Stajan season.

Colin- what are your impressions on Backlund, firsthand? It seems he is a different player than last yr if the Swedish league and the camp stories are to be believed.
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Jan 17 @ 6:06 PM ET
No way should they trade JBO now with Hartley in the mix.
- KABLOOEY

What is the logic as to him being better under Hartley? Is the opinion that he will be a less-physical, but better puck possession #2 and minutes eater (foote), or more of a 40 pt producer like in FLA due to better tempo?
KABLOOEY
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.19.2011

Jan 17 @ 6:10 PM ET
What is the logic as to him being better under Hartley? Is the opinion that he will be a less-physical, but better puck possession #2 and minutes eater (foote), or more of a 40 pt producer like in FLA due to better tempo?
- FLflames34

Hartley wants the D to join the play and Sutter did not. Plain and simple. Trust me if JBO goes you'll miss him.
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Jan 17 @ 6:12 PM ET
Hartley wants the D to join the play and Sutter did not. Plain and simple. Trust me if JBO goes you'll miss him.
- KABLOOEY

I am hopeful this season will turn out well, and I agree a JBo used properly is 100% better than trading him.
Now, if after a month he doesn't gel maybe a trade would be best, but I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt. As I said a week ago, all players should get a clean slate in the new system, Stajan and JBo included.
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jan 17 @ 6:14 PM ET
I don't know anything about Coyle.
- KABLOOEY

Thats ok. No way Minny moves Coyle for Granlund.
KABLOOEY
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.19.2011

Jan 17 @ 6:14 PM ET
I am hopeful this season will turn out well, and I agree a JBo used properly is 100% better than trading him.
Now, if after a month he doesn't gel maybe a trade would be best, but I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt. As I said a week ago, all players should get a clean slate in the new system, Stajan and JBo included.

- FLflames34

I agree. After a month if we're below 500 look out, the blow up may be felt in Japan.
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Jan 17 @ 7:11 PM ET
I was going to say this in your last blog, but i got side tracked by homer Flames fans trying to rip on the Oilers... But I like your blogs, i think you do a great job of not being biased about the value of your players and state of your team.... I'd much rather have a blogger like you for the Oilers than that donkey Cloutier...
- SpoiledByOil

What you mean the epic trade he wrote about yesterday isn't going to happen?
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jan 17 @ 7:20 PM ET
If that's the the way they are going (Brust/Taylor) why weren't one or both of them at camp?
- KABLOOEY


Damn good question...
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jan 18 @ 12:15 AM ET
Hartley wants the D to join the play and Sutter did not. Plain and simple. Trust me if JBO goes you'll miss him.
- KABLOOEY

thats what i'm hoping

Also will be good for brodie if he allows them to join the play more.
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jan 18 @ 12:16 AM ET
Damn good question...
- Colin Dambrauskas

I'm hoping its because it was a test for leiland and karlsson since they are fighting for a 1way and the other two are on two way contracts.

I'd rather have karlsson back up again and we trade leiland
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jan 18 @ 12:19 AM ET
Thats ok. No way Minny moves Coyle for Granlund.
- poisondhearts37

thats true...but still, would like them to try to trade for him. Or clutterbuck

No hockey fan could say they wouldn't want to see glenX and clutterbuck playing on the same line. That would be one of the hardest working lines in the league
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Jan 18 @ 12:31 AM ET
Trade Iginla to a team... for two 1st rounders...

then he signs in July
Oil Tycoon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Parts unknown, AB
Joined: 09.08.2009

Jan 18 @ 9:32 AM ET
Damn good question...
- Colin Dambrauskas

They have plans of making a run for Bobby Lu.
scoot174
Calgary Flames
Location: Oil Tycoon is actually a Flame, AB
Joined: 01.29.2007

Jan 18 @ 9:44 AM ET
They have plans at making a run for Bobby Lu.
- Oil Tycoon


Another useless post, at least you're consistant.
Oil Tycoon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Parts unknown, AB
Joined: 09.08.2009

Jan 18 @ 9:45 AM ET
Another useless post, at least you're consistant.
- scoot174

Aww did you miss me you really have to stop PM me I will not accept your friend request no means no.
scoot174
Calgary Flames
Location: Oil Tycoon is actually a Flame, AB
Joined: 01.29.2007

Jan 18 @ 9:58 AM ET
Aww did you miss me you really have to stop PM me I will not accept your friend request no means no.
- Oil Tycoon


Any chance you'll catch the flu and die?
Oil Tycoon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Parts unknown, AB
Joined: 09.08.2009

Jan 18 @ 10:21 AM ET
Any chance you'll catch the flu and die?
- scoot174

I have a better chance of catching something from your mom. I like your odds
All Blues
St Louis Blues
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 03.06.2008

Jan 18 @ 11:08 AM ET
Oh wow. If I'm any one of 12-15 GM's I grab Irving, esp @ his cap hit. He can tie a franchise over if they draft a goalie in this upcoming deep draft.
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Jan 18 @ 11:16 AM ET
I'm hoping its because it was a test for leiland and karlsson since they are fighting for a 1way and the other two are on two way contracts.

I'd rather have karlsson back up again and we trade leiland

- numbear

Brust & Taylor aren't technically Flames property. They have contracts signed with the Heat, not the Flames. Irving is on a 2 way. Only Karlsson is on a 1 way deal with the Flames.

In order for Brust or Taylor to play with the Flames, they would have to sign a contract, either 1 way or 2 way. That would burn another of CGY's 50 contracts and, assuminig all out waiver players pass, I thing we would be up to 48 signed contracts.
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jan 18 @ 12:35 PM ET
Brust & Taylor aren't technically Flames property. They have contracts signed with the Heat, not the Flames. Irving is on a 2 way. Only Karlsson is on a 1 way deal with the Flames.

In order for Brust or Taylor to play with the Flames, they would have to sign a contract, either 1 way or 2 way. That would burn another of CGY's 50 contracts and, assuminig all out waiver players pass, I thing we would be up to 48 signed contracts.

- TandA4Flames


See, and this is what I mean...the decision is strange. I feel like there is more to this than meets theeye.
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Jan 18 @ 12:55 PM ET
See, and this is what I mean...the decision is strange. I feel like there is more to this than meets theeye.
- Colin Dambrauskas

Well I guess the mystery is over, both cleared waivers & Irving was on the practise ice. So I think Karlsson is the odd man out. Not sure what they are going to do with him as he was the one on a 1 way deal unless the Flames may have a small trade lining up with Leiland involved.I heard Irving played pretty good in practise yesterday.
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Jan 18 @ 1:00 PM ET
What you mean the epic trade he wrote about yesterday isn't going to happen?
- geta02it

The guy spins so much BS I think he actually believes it himself. There is entertainment & then there is childish drivell that he defends in his trollish usual manor.
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jan 18 @ 1:22 PM ET
Well I guess the mystery is over, both cleared waivers & Irving was on the practise ice. So I think Karlsson is the odd man out. Not sure what they are going to do with him as he was the one on a 1 way deal unless the Flames may have a small trade lining up with Leiland involved.I heard Irving played pretty good in practise yesterday.
- Kevin R


almost seems like they'll stick with Irving until Ramo is ready...Irving ain't playing...
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