Not necessarily. Some facts for you. The Leafs are soft as butter and unlike the Wings don't have the skill or tenancity in skilled players (Zetterberg) to overcome this. Fact the North East loaded up on tough guys and sand paper this off season except Toronto.
Toronto will be pushed around by every team in the North East which they play many games in. Skilled guys like Kadri will be run consistently without even the slightest of consequence. If Orr can be somewhat defensively sound and skate better than he did than you're damn right I want him on the team in limited minutes. You're also damn right Carlyle would too. - Blazed
guys like tootoo, orr have little to no impact on a game, the skill players ultimately decide a game.
Not necessarily. Some facts for you. The Leafs are soft as butter and unlike the Wings don't have the skill or tenancity in skilled players (Zetterberg) to overcome this. - Blazed
This is opinion
Fact the North East loaded up on tough guys and sand paper this off season except Toronto.
Montreal added Prust, Buffalo added Ott, Ottawa lost Carkner. Meh
Toronto will be pushed around by every team in the North East which they play many games in. Skilled guys like Kadri will be run consistently without even the slightest of consequence.
Pronger is out to a concussion caused by a check from Hanzal. Something thre doesn't tie with your comment.
If Orr can be somewhat defensively sound and skate better than he did than you're damn right I want him on the team in limited minutes. You're also damn right Carlyle would too.
If Orr makes it, it will have to be on merit. There's no room for goons who can't contribute anymore.
Well, if the top six is: Kessel, Bozak, Lupul, JVR Grabo Kulemin....that leaves: Kolakov(sp) MacA, Kadri, Brown, Frattin, Steckel, McClement for the bottom six....so I imagine its a battle for 4th line center then... - Colin Dambrauskas
I forgot Connolly too...that makes 8 guys challenging for bottom 6.
If Orr makes it, it will have to be on merit. There's no room for goons who can't contribute anymore. - lumlums
Sorry the Leafs have got to be one of the softest teams in the league. I agree Orr will have to make it on merit which is why I said I hope he does. By no means should be make regardless.
Players will obviously get injured no matter what but Lucic is less likely to go around running guys and challenging guys like Phaneuf and Komo to fights when Orr skates over.
Sorry the Leafs have got to be one of the softest teams in the league. I agree Orr will have to make it on merit which is why I said I hope he does. By no means should be make regardless.
Players will obviously get injured no matter what but Lucic is less likely to go around running guys and challenging guys like Phaneuf and Komo to fights when Orr skates over. - Blazed
its a new nhl, goons dont really have as much of a place on teams as they use to.
guys like tootoo, orr have little to no impact on a game, the skill players ultimately decide a game. - wingz4life
this is true...however consider guys like Clowe, Lucic, D. Brown who can play a truculent game and produce...there was a thought in Toronto that Burke was going to be bringing in mean guys who can play...well....he brought in Brown and Frattin....bout it imo. Orr cant skate, Rosehill cant play hockey.
Anyone catch on tsn the guy who reports for the canucks? after Gillis interview, he ripped him apart saying they absolutely need assets since they kesler and now booth are gone, that raymond is absolute crap, and that their prospects dont come close to filling in the gaps of the 2nd/3rd line to start of the season. So good
this is true...however consider guys like Clowe, Lucic, D. Brown who can play a truculent game and produce...there was a thought in Toronto that Burke was going to be bringing in mean guys who can play...well....he brought in Brown and Frattin....bout it imo. Orr cant skate, Rosehill cant play hockey. - Colin Dambrauskas
yes, cuz guys like orr,rosehill only do one thing. its great to talk about truculence but, you cannot have one dimensional players on a team.
yes, cuz guys like orr,rosehill only do one thing. its great to talk about truculence but, you cannot have one dimensional players on a team. - wingz4life
yeah they're garbage brown and phaneuf is good enough with the odd time komi is in the lineup too
yes, cuz guys like orr,rosehill only do one thing. its great to talk about truculence but, you cannot have one dimensional players on a team. - wingz4life
yep....guys like Orr have no place in this current NHL. But Toronto needs to bring in a little more grit...grit with the ability to contribute. Special breeds these guys are...
how's it deaning? 
