Like i just said.. he MIGHT be the 5th best d-man from his draft.. hard to argue him being the 2nd or 3rd best prospect in the game with that being said...

Adam Larsson
Dougie Hamilton
Duncan Siemens
Ryan Murphy
Nathan Beaulieu
Oscar Klefbom
- jak521

Larsson yes. The rest is totally up in the air of course...but I would probably agree with that order.

In case you missed it, the lockout was a financial disaster to the league, especially to the poorer owners in soft markets. Nashville, who won't see the playoffs this season unless Trotz works another miracle, is going to be in worse shape financially this summer than they were last. The cap is too high for them; the floor is not low enough. Do people not understand that the league itself has been keeping franchises like Phoenix and Nashville alive for the last few years? Nashville is so close to being relocated it isn't funny.
- Maxbone

Where the hell are you getting this crap from???? You're an idiot!!!

I live in Red Deer and have watched Dumba play plenty of times. Ive also watched Schultz play (not live of course) multiple times. That ranking is stupid. NHL games will tell the tale, but Dumba is criminally overrated. I was stunned he went so high in the draft.
- sanfordnson

Obviously Schultz is a better prospect. For someone to say otherwise would be moronic.. He's easily one of if not the best defensive prospect in the world

Like i just said.. he MIGHT be the 5th best d-man from his draft.. hard to argue him being the 2nd or 3rd best prospect in the game with that being said...

Adam Larsson
Dougie Hamilton
Duncan Siemens
Ryan Murphy
Nathan Beaulieu
Oscar Klefbom
- jak521

Larsson is in the NHL and Siemens has done nothing since being drafted.

Murphy? Did you watch him at the WJC?

Where the hell are you getting this crap from???? You're an idiot!!!
- SouthNash

Look at the source bud.

Looks like a very skilled player, that plays like a f*&king mess at this point in his career.
- prock

Hes been jeered on home ice more than once. Painful to watch.

Im sure you do.....
- hugefemale dog77

So an injury prone top6 winger, with a $5mil cap hit is worth more than a 22yr old prospect that has top6 potential?

Too late now, but I'll add my opinion that the Preds are just not interested in trading Shea Weber. I don't see how they would be.

For those comparing this proposed package to the philly package though: it's important to note that a Philly team with Shea Weber probably doesn't finish below 5th in the league for the next four years. So those four 1sts are four 25th-30th picks and probably not worth more than two Oilers' 1sts, Klefbom and Hemmer.

I still think it's far short of what the Preds would want for Shea Weber, which if I had to take a stab, would be Schultz, PRV, Hemmer, and two 1sts (maybe more). They might even demand we swap out PRV for Hall. (I.E. - No deal to be had)

Larsson is in the NHL and Siemens has done nothing since being drafted.

Murphy? Did you watch him at the WJC?
- Lahey

No one should put a ton of stock in the WJC.

....but Murphy was awful.

So an injury prone top6 winger, with a $5mil cap hit is worth more than a 22yr old prospect that has top6 potential?
- BoBBeR56

stop it man, yer killin me!

No one should put a ton of stock in the WJC.

....but Murphy was awful.
- sanfordnson

I don't disagree, but the kid has no defensive awareness at all. I'm shocked he even knows where to lineup.

I think a better solution is to acquire a B-level NHL defenseman who could break into the top echelon. The price would still be high, but if you were willing to trade 1sts, Klefboms and PRVs, you could probably get a guy who could grow with the team for a lower price than it would cost to get shea weber.

Too late now, but I'll add my opinion that the Preds are just not interested in trading Shea Weber. I don't see how they would be.

For those comparing this proposed package to the philly package though: it's important to note that a Philly team with Shea Weber probably doesn't finish below 5th in the league for the next four years. So those four 1sts are four 25th-30th picks and probably not worth more than two Oilers' 1sts, Klefbom and Hemmer.

I still think it's far short of what the Preds would want for Shea Weber, which if I had to take a stab, would be Schultz, PRV, Hemmer, and two 1sts (maybe more). They might even demand we swap out PRV for Hall. (I.E. - No deal to be had)
- Morris

I think they would want two of the five kids without a doubt, and probably even a couple firsts. His asking price would be huge.

It remains to be seen how Weber and Suter do apart from each other. Im pretty sure Weber will be fine but I wouldnt mortgage the entire future for him.

I don't disagree, but the kid has no defensive awareness at all. I'm shocked he even knows where to lineup.
- Lahey

people said (say) the same thing about Yandle

people said (say) the same thing about Yandle
- jak521

He has size and was able to get 59 points.

He has size and was able to get 59 points.
- Lahey

Im just saying.. the kid is projected to be a formidable offensive d-man.. he may lack size comparatively, but the skill is there..

Not comparing the 2 at all, but how big is Erik Karlsson?

While I would hate to see this happen (GoPreds!), I will say this would immediately put the Oilers in the running for Conference Chaps! The Oilers have been scary good for a few games here and there over the past two season. Give them a solid D and the continued progression of their stars and they will be very hard to beat.

I know Weber's bonuses are a tough Pill to swallow, but Poile would not have signed him if he didn't truly believe he could keep Weber. That much, I guarantee.

Im just saying.. the kid is projected to be a formidable offensive d-man.. he may lack size comparatively, but the skill is there..

Not comparing the 2 at all, but how big is Erik Karlsson?
- jak521

6'7 300lbs

As an FYI I don't think Klefbom is a top 3, but I don't think Murphy and Siemens are ahead of him by any means.

Hes been jeered on home ice more than once. Painful to watch.
- sanfordnson

Makes you wonder how he made some of those Team Canada U18 teams and such.

Ontario bias?

6'7 300lbs

As an FYI I don't think Klefbom is a top 3, but I don't think Murphy and Siemens are ahead of him by any means.
- Lahey

Agree. Doubt Siemens ever cracks top 4. And Murphy.. Well he just sucks..

I live in Red Deer and have watched Dumba play plenty of times. Ive also watched Schultz play (not live of course) multiple times. That ranking is stupid. NHL games will tell the tale, but Dumba is criminally overrated. I was stunned he went so high in the draft.
- sanfordnson

So what you're telling me is that the Wild scouting team along with the GM, coaches and Ownership have no idea how to assess talent but you do? These ranking lists that have been compiled were made up by analysts and scouting informants that know less than you do?

Get real, the rankings obviously aren't perfect nor are they completely accurate, but they certainly aren't as far fetched as you apparently believe they are.

As far as the Dumba Schultz comparison goes, they played on different teams in different leagues, so trying to compare them is pointless especially when comparing watching one live to one on TV.

Shea Weber for spare parts?

Ya right. What a ridiculous trade offer. The only way you have a shot at him is giving up one of RNH, Eberle or Hall. If not, it'll never happen. Besides, Nashville is gonna keep getting better, they aren't getting rid of their captain and best player anytime soon.

Wow. Terrible idea.

Agree. Doubt Siemens ever cracks top 4. And Murphy.. Well he just sucks..
- LeafsFan64

Not liking this bs, first a flames fan then a Nucks fan and now a leafs fan.

world must be coming to an end.

Dumba is ahead of Schultz on that list. Dumba.
- sanfordnson

I didn't make the list, but remember that Dumba is much younger than Schultz and has a lot of time to develop his game to be just as complete.

There is a deal to be had here, the only problem is that the oilers won't give up an established prospect instead of a what if. The preds will want a name for a name, the only way to make hockey matter by trading away their captain is bringing in someone that can replace him and play at a high level. Unfortunately with the log jam at forward trading away someone like that for a good established D would be good, if all your players do pan out it will make it difficult to keep them all with the salaries they will demand.