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Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.10.2009

Jan 15 @ 7:20 AM ET
Impossible..... Luongo's contract will not hinder the trade of Luongo. Everyone knows 34 year old broken down goalies with 10 years left are the peek of value.
- burn

you gotta admit, Gillis is a perfect representation of the Canucks and their fans. Neither participate in a place we call reality........
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jan 15 @ 7:21 AM ET
Good strategy but it would cost at least one of Gardiner, Reiily or Kadri. I for one want to see what Kadri does post Brian Burke/Ron Wilson era, when he hopefully isn't be dumped on thru the media. Hoping that was a Burke strategy.
- Domidives


O'Reilly will resign. It's a matter of time. COL has a ton of cap space, they're in no rush with Stastny and Duchene more than capable of centering the top two lines.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jan 15 @ 7:23 AM ET
Impossible..... Luongo's contract will not hinder the trade of Luongo. Everyone knows 34 year old broken down goalies with 10 years left are the peek of value.
- burn


I knew it....Burn is really Mike Gillis. HA!

Wait, was that just the most clever use of sarcasm ever?

I'll shut up now.

I thought you were Mike Gillis because all the crap he was spewing on Sunday night saying every single team would welcome Lu's contract with open arms.

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jan 15 @ 7:26 AM ET
I knew it....Burn is really Mike Gillis. HA!

Wait, was that just the most clever use of sarcasm ever?

I'll shut up now.

I thought you were Mike Gillis because all the crap he was spewing on Sunday night saying every single team would welcome Lu's contract with open arms.

- PatC80


Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jan 15 @ 7:26 AM ET
Canucks fans love to talk about the playoffs and how pathetic the Leafs are but honestly, how long can you be satisfied with "great playoffs"? In the entire history of your team that's all you can claim, you've enjoyed some great playoffs. It's amazing to me, I hear Canucks fans talk about the last two Presidents trophies more than I hear LA and Boston fans talk about the last two Stanley Cups.
- Jeffmt


That is because LA and Boston are cities whose fans have enjoyed major league championships.

Vancouver has never won a major league championship in anything. The city doesn't even rate getting a team in half the major professional leagues in NA.

They have to crow about *something* to make themselves relevant.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jan 15 @ 7:27 AM ET
GardIner is going nowhere
- Cherry--Skoal


I would package Gardiner in a trade for Benn in a heartbeat.

I would not go so far as Gardiner and a 1st, but I would do Gardiner/Kadri or Gardiner/Bozak.

Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.10.2009

Jan 15 @ 7:28 AM ET
Connololy needed to be enlightened as to what the Leafs expect from him this year. the guy who is getting paid 4.5 million a year needed that clarification....... *facepalm*
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jan 15 @ 7:33 AM ET
I am feeling more and more comfortable keeping Lou to capitalize on what may be the last real season that the Sedins will be elite players.
- Beatle_john


It is what I have been saying all along. The window is closing. The value is not out there in a trade. Keep him. I bet you are going to need him at some point before the windoiw shuts. As far as the locker room, my message would be "Sac up and make it work". So far it already seems like Luongo is not being problematic about it.

... then buy him out if the Canucks don't win the cup the next 2 seasons.

It is not like Gillis is being offered anything that would be particularly difficult to obtain.

Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Jan 15 @ 7:38 AM ET
Mike Augello: Leafs Should Pass On Whatchamacallit & Pursue RFA Holdouts
- mikeinbuffalo

Stop dreaming Mike. We're not landing either of O'Reilly or Benn without giving up the farm for them...

They'll re-sign with their respective teams by Saturday.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jan 15 @ 7:45 AM ET
It is what I have been saying all along. The window is closing. The value is not out there in a trade. Keep him. I bet you are going to need him at some point before the windoiw shuts. As far as the locker room, my message would be "Sac up and make it work". So far it already seems like Luongo is not being problematic about it.

... then buy him out if the Canucks don't win the cup the next 2 seasons.

It is not like Gillis is being offered anything that would be particularly difficult to obtain.

- Aetherial


And who's to say that Schneider doesn't get the yank in the playoffs this year? Or sooner? They're in no trouble cap-wise this year so unless there's a deal on the table that makes the team better right now, I don't see the point in VAN moving him.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jan 15 @ 7:47 AM ET
Stop dreaming Mike. We're not landing either of O'Reilly or Benn without giving up the farm for them...

They'll re-sign with their respective teams by Saturday.

- Pen15


Just curious, would the Avalanche be willing to part with Stastny for a package that included an expiring contract? Possibly, Bozak, Connolly and Percy. This way, they get rid of a big contract while getting more cap space in the off-season?

On a side note, anyone know if the NHL will now allow for "sign-and-trade" deals like the NBA has in place?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jan 15 @ 7:47 AM ET
you gotta admit, Gillis is a perfect representation of the Canucks and their fans. Neither participate in a place we call reality........
- Sheppy99



burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jan 15 @ 7:48 AM ET
I knew it....Burn is really Mike Gillis. HA!

Wait, was that just the most clever use of sarcasm ever?

I'll shut up now.

I thought you were Mike Gillis because all the crap he was spewing on Sunday night saying every single team would welcome Lu's contract with open arms.

- PatC80



You're too kind.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jan 15 @ 7:54 AM ET
And who's to say that Schneider doesn't get the yank in the playoffs this year? Or sooner? They're in no trouble cap-wise this year so unless there's a deal on the table that makes the team better right now, I don't see the point in VAN moving him.
- gravyface


Conversely,

What if Schneider sh1ts the bed and proves he actually can't handle the pressure of being the #1 in a city like Vancouver. What if Luongo is not there.

Suddenly you are pinning the Sedins last couple years of stardom on the backs of sub-par goaltending.

I have never understood this idea of trading Luongo in the first place... unless you are getting MUCH more than what teams seem to be willing to pay.
Sammich
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You're the fukin best Bellows!
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jan 15 @ 7:56 AM ET
Just curious, would the Avalanche be willing to part with Stastny for a package that included an expiring contract? Possibly, Bozak, Connolly and Percy. This way, they get rid of a big contract while getting more cap space in the off-season?

On a side note, anyone know if the NHL will now allow for "sign-and-trade" deals like the NBA has in place?

- PatC80


Very doubtful.
The Avs don't need cap space, they are at or near the league min iirc. But, they are a team that is losing money and in the middle of a rebuild. They last thing then need is overpaid guys with expiring contracts. If they are looking to trade Stastny (after they sign O'Rielly) then is going to be for picks or prospects, no salary dumps will be included.
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jan 15 @ 8:13 AM ET
Very doubtful.
The Avs don't need cap space, they are at or near the league min iirc. But, they are a team that is losing money and in the middle of a rebuild. They last thing then need is overpaid guys with expiring contracts. If they are looking to trade Stastny (after they sign O'Rielly) then is going to be for picks or prospects, no salary dumps will be included.

- Sammich




1/5 doctors recommend taking Komisarek and Connolly.
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Jan 15 @ 8:15 AM ET


1/5 doctors recommend taking Komisarek and Connolly.

- Colin Dambrauskas

No one asked you.


Just kidding.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jan 15 @ 8:31 AM ET


1/5 doctors recommend taking Komisarek and Connolly.

- Colin Dambrauskas




Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jan 15 @ 8:35 AM ET
No one asked you.


Just kidding.

- jbold


You're bold...I like that.
Champ
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jan 15 @ 8:35 AM ET
A good idea in theory but I'm thinking it would take a lot more to get O'Reilly or Benn than it would to get Luongo.
- SteveTambellini


Agreed
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Jan 15 @ 8:35 AM ET
You're bold...I like that.
- Colin Dambrauskas

I see what you did there.






























It sucked.








Thehabsfan93
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Jan 15 @ 8:38 AM ET
Ryan O'Reilly would be a good centre for Kessel.
Champ
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jan 15 @ 8:38 AM ET
Maybe you are right about O'Reilly and maybe you aren't, even so he will still be a 2nd line center and a very solid two player. He could be had for less than Benn, but still more than Luongo. I also freaking love Jamie Benn. I love everything about his game. I'd give up a lot to get him, and that's what it would take. I don't see why they would ever trade him though, and I'll bet he signs something comparable to the Hall/Eberle contracts or slightly less before very long here.

Seriously though, I'd trade Yakupov+ for Benn. Sounds crazy, but I would.

- SteveTambellini


And it would take Morgan Rielly. Are you willing now? Burke says he's better then Yakupov.
Champ
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jan 15 @ 8:44 AM ET
I would trade Phil Kessel, even up, for Jamie Benn. We get the grit and toughness angle and Dallas gets the speed and finesse. Sounds like a fair deal for both clubs. The best part, is that we bury that awful deal with Boston.
- PrinceLH


Problem is Dallas does not want the contract headache. Kessel makes $5.4 and after next season he will negociate for more. They are better off with Benn.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jan 15 @ 8:44 AM ET
Ryan O'Reilly would be a good centre for Kessel.
- Thehabsfan93


offersheet him.
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