Totally false they want to put whatever makes leaf fans happy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm9zFoWjqpw
- pker2theend

OMG I've never seen that before. Thank you.

gtfo
- Cherry--Skoal

No

OMG I've never seen that before. Thank you.
- Jeffmt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTMV31InJcE

Until next time Leaf fans.

I love the confidence of leafs fans, who haven't made the playoffs or been relevant for almost the last 10 years. You guys can get all the offence you want but if you can't keep the dam puck out of your net then you have NOTHING!! Luongo has a way better track record then any goalie you have had in years.

Keep your damn goalies and we will run with Schneids and Lou. Then when you miss the playoffs for another year, we will see who is laughing.
- nkryska

Well I'm a Leaf fan here on a Leaf thread so I will point this out to u. First I really hope Gillis does keep both goalies for the season. To put it simply enough for u, Van has to win it this year if they want a chance at all in the near future. Keeping both for the shortened season is essential, because if Cory gets hurt or faulters u guys will need Roberto to carry the load until Cory's ready to go again. Next season Gillis will have no choice but toblow the team up. The Canucks will have only 13 players signed and yes that includes Lou. So with a cap max of 64.3 million and a cap hit of approx 55.4 million for those 13 players that leaves about 8.9 million for 9 to 11 playersbefore to 2 buyouts that will be available. From the outside looking in I would say most teams are going to wait until late in the summer before making any deals with Gillis. [/img]

Well I'm a Leaf fan here on a Leaf thread so I will point this out to u. First I really hope Gillis does keep both goalies for the season. To put it simply enough for u, Van has to win it this year if they want a chance at all in the near future. Keeping both for the shortened season is essential, because if Cory gets hurt or faulters u guys will need Roberto to carry the load until Cory's ready to go again. Next season Gillis will have no choice but toblow the team up. The Canucks will have only 13 players signed and yes that includes Lou. So with a cap max of 64.3 million and a cap hit of approx 55.4 million for those 13 players that leaves about 8.9 million for 9 to 11 playersbefore to 2 buyouts that will be available. From the outside looking in I would say most teams are going to wait until late in the summer before making any deals with Gillis.
- Canhockeyfan[/img]

It's not a reach to assume the Canucks will be able to acquire a serviceable backup as part of the package for Luongo and not take on any salary while filling one or two other holes in their roster. They have two buyouts which I have to assume will be used on Ballard (provided they can't find anybody willing to trade for him) and Garrison because they have way too much money committed on D right now. Garrison wasn't worth $4.6 million when he first signed that deal and he sure as hell isn't now that the cap is coming down. That's $8.8 million freed up right there. It's going to take some finesse to make things work cap wise but quite a few teams are going to be in that situation and the Canucks aren't in as bad of a position as you make them out to be.

What are the most likely line combinations on saturday night ??

It's not a reach to assume the Canucks will be able to acquire a serviceable backup as part of the package for Luongo and not take on any salary while filling one or two other holes in their roster. They have two buyouts which I have to assume will be used on Ballard (provided they can't find anybody willing to trade for him) and Garrison because they have way too much money committed on D right now. Garrison wasn't worth $4.6 million when he first signed that deal and he sure as hell isn't now that the cap is coming down. That's $8.8 million freed up right there. It's going to take some finesse to make things work cap wise but quite a few teams are going to be in that situation and the Canucks aren't in as bad of a position as you make them out to be.
- SteveTambellini

In theory what you say is true, but i would love to be a fly on the wall when Gillis goes to the owners and says he needs to buy out Garrison and Ballard (2guys he signed)with a combined salary of 31.4 million so the cost would only be about 20.7 million of their money and the still have both Lou and Schneider as their goalies for a combined cap hit of 9.3+. Then again I guess it's easy to spend other peoples money. I would love to see the Leafs "buy" other teams problems if we could get enough young high end assets in return to make it worthwhile.

I am feeling more and more comfortable keeping Lou to capitalize on what may be the last real season that the Sedins will be elite players.

In theory what you say is true, but i would love to be a fly on the wall when Gillis goes to the owners and says he needs to buy out Garrison and Ballard (2guys he signed)with a combined salary of 31.4 million so the cost would only be about 20.7 million of their money and the still have both Lou and Schneider as their goalies for a combined cap hit of 9.3+. Then again I guess it's easy to spend other peoples money. I would love to see the Leafs "buy" other teams problems if we could get enough young high end assets in return to make it worthwhile.
- Canhockeyfan

Ballard will be bought out but Garrision is too new to say. I do see them stockpikling these 700k dmen.

But Lou may not want to stay.... although he has given no indication of that. He runs the city. They have his retirement number ceremony all designed for 10 years into the future. He can and will write his own ticket but it will on the Canucks timeframe.

Finished 1st in the league 2 years in a row but still have done the same thing as the leafs. Not win anything
- Cherry--Skoal

No we have not won a cup.

But in the last 5 years we have won 240 games. Leafs have one 170.

We have won 27 playoff games, the leafs 0.

No cup, but a lot more fun to be a Nucks fan.

Oh and we did pick in the first round the last 2 years.

buy out Garrison and Ballard (2guys he signed)
- Canhockeyfan

Pretty sure he traded for Ballard and his contract, but I may be misremembering.

No we have not won a cup.

But in the last 5 years we have won 240 games. Leafs have one 170.

We have won 27 playoff games, the leafs 0.

No cup, but a lot more fun to be a Nucks fan.

Oh and we did pick in the first round the last 2 years.
- caighil

All that matters.

The one thing that most people seem to overlook when considering whether or not their club should acquire said Vancouver backup goalie, is the benefit the young goalies in their system would receive from playing behind hime for a few seasons. Ask Cory Schneider how much he benefited from watching un-named goaltender day in and day out for two seasons. James Reimer would be a much better goalie 3 years from now with said goaltender, than without him.

All that matters.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

in part yes, I do watch 82 games a season, that is a lot of time to invest in a losing team.

I did it for 17 years, and let me tell you, it is a lot more fun cheering for a winning team

in part yes, I do watch 82 games a season, that is a lot of time to invest in a losing team.

I did it for 17 years, and let me tell you, it is a lot more fun cheering for a winning team
- caighil

i know.. Ive been cursing out the leafs for the past 8-9 years...

I've been thinking along the same lines....however, I would like to see Nonis target a true veteran back-up goalie, someone with starting goalie experience that can work with Reimer, who I still have faith in as our #1. Scrivens would be better suited playing #1 minutes with the Marlies, at least for one more season for development purposes. I'm not too comfortable going with two young inexperienced goalies.

We should use some of our assets to make a pitch for Benn, although that would cost us at least one of our higher end prospects at the very least. If that's not possible, I think we should target Stastny instead of O'Reilly. I think he fits our needs a little better.....and due to his salary, may not require as big of a return. Unloading Stastny's salary may help the Avs find the money to sign O'Reilly.

I love the confidence of leafs fans, who haven't made the playoffs or been relevant for almost the last 10 years. You guys can get all the offence you want but if you can't keep the dam puck out of your net then you have NOTHING!! Luongo has a way better track record then any goalie you have had in years.

Keep your damn goalies and we will run with Schneids and Lou. Then when you miss the playoffs for another year, we will see who is laughing.
- nkryska

The Leafs are relevant. If they weren't you wouldn't be in a Leaf Blog talking about the Leafs.

in part yes, I do watch 82 games a season, that is a lot of time to invest in a losing team.

I did it for 17 years, and let me tell you, it is a lot more fun cheering for a winning team
- caighil

Canucks aren't a winning team. Because of there 0 Cups.

I've been thinking along the same lines....however, I would like to see Nonis target a true veteran back-up goalie, someone with starting goalie experience that can work with Reimer, who I still have faith in as our #1. Scrivens would be better suited playing #1 minutes with the Marlies, at least for one more season for development purposes. I'm not too comfortable going with two young inexperienced goalies.

We should use some of our assets to make a pitch for Benn, although that would cost us at least one of our higher end prospects at the very least. If that's not possible, I think we should target Stastny instead of O'Reilly. I think he fits our needs a little better.....and due to his salary, may not require as big of a return. Unloading Stastny's salary may help the Avs find the money to sign O'Reilly.
- Phenom

Jose Theodore perhaps if Lu ends up in FLA.

But I don't see Lu going to FLA.

Jose Theodore perhaps if Lu ends up in FLA.

But I don't see Lu going to FLA.
- dmnted

Yes, I had thought about him as well.....I'd be ok with that.

Mike Augello: Leafs Should Pass On Whatchamacallit & Pursue RFA Holdouts
- mikeinbuffalo

Good strategy but it would cost at least one of Gardiner, Reiily or Kadri. I for one want to see what Kadri does post Brian Burke/Ron Wilson era, when he hopefully isn't be dumped on thru the media. Hoping that was a Burke strategy.

I've been thinking along the same lines....however, I would like to see Nonis target a true veteran back-up goalie, someone with starting goalie experience that can work with Reimer, who I still have faith in as our #1. Scrivens would be better suited playing #1 minutes with the Marlies, at least for one more season for development purposes. I'm not too comfortable going with two young inexperienced goalies.

We should use some of our assets to make a pitch for Benn, although that would cost us at least one of our higher end prospects at the very least. If that's not possible, I think we should target Stastny instead of O'Reilly. I think he fits our needs a little better.....and due to his salary, may not require as big of a return. Unloading Stastny's salary may help the Avs find the money to sign O'Reilly.
- Phenom

Stastny seems like a more realistic option instead of O'Rielly. The Avs don't have the money to spend on 3 high end centers and neither one of these guys should be wasted in a checking line role. They all deserve first or second line minutes. The Avs are still in rebuild mode and have plenty of holes to fill.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTMV31InJcE

Until next time Leaf fans.
- pker2theend

Your franchise is in good shape having a GM who trades away it's only top six prospect (hodgson) for a bottom six grinder (kassian).

That is just pure genius. A lot of people would think that was borderline retarded behaviour but me and you both know Gillis is just a trend setter and ahead of his time.

A good idea in theory but I'm thinking it would take a lot more to get O'Reilly or Benn than it would to get Luongo.
- SteveTambellini

Impossible..... Luongo's contract will not hinder the trade of Luongo. Everyone knows 34 year old broken down goalies with 10 years left are the peek of value.

Mike Augello: Leafs Should Pass On Whatchamacallit & Pursue RFA Holdouts
- mikeinbuffalo

Who's this goalie you speak of? Has there been any mention of it in the media?