How many time did luongo drag Florida into the playoffs?

0

and no, these leafs are no better than that era of panthers.
- Dozzer

Teams what one the cup during last CBA

Canes-not sure
Ducks-yes
Wings-yes
Pens-yes
Hawks-yes
Bruins-yes
Kings-yes

Name one team who won the cup during the last CBA whose core wasn't developed by themselves.

Bet ya can't.
- Dozzer

Agreed. The LA Kings prospects always lead their respective league's in scoring. They have a wealth of great juniors coming up through the ranks.

Name one team who won the cup during the last CBA whose core wasn't developed by themselves.

Bet ya can't.
- Dozzer

Bruins?

They just can't strip the cupboards for one. I agree with Dozzer that now is not the time to do it. This "season" should be a write off in terms of making any major moves, let it play out and take a good hard run at free agents and if you land them, swing some picks, parts and prospects for a goalie.
- markmark

We are not making the playoffs with Bozak as our #1 centre.

This season is a write-off.

It's not going to end well.

Someone needs to be pissed off here... Leafs fans have been pawns. They spend poop loads of money on their team and support them though all the terrible years and get nothing in return. We have taken on this culture of losing and its now acceptable to lose all the time. Same arguements, "oh lets just tank mannnn, leafs will totally draft a Crosby or something and everything will be so (frank)ing euphoric in leafland." Get a clue you (frank)ing sheep.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

i seriously wouldnt mind if the wings tanked for a season or two and got two very high draft picks , guess its far different being a leafs fan

ya, buffalo did nothing with Hasek and do nothing with Miller now.
- wingz4life

Sabres don't want Miller? Send him north of the border to TO. Leafs will take him

Bruins?
- faceto27

Really? Their core want drafted/developed by the bruins? Ya might want to check on that

Sabres don't want Miller? Send him north of the border to TO. Leafs will take him
- GCHonda

dont know, the god king of Buffalo (terry pegula) wouldnt go for it.

Name one team who won the cup during the last CBA whose core wasn't developed by themselves.

Bet ya can't.
- Dozzer

Well its a new CBA,, maybe building thru the draft isn't the way to go anymore. IDK MAN LIKE (frank) CAN YOU BLAME ME FOR BEING PISSED???????? They have absolutely JACK poop going into this season.. mise well not even turn on the games if they are just gonna lose.

We are not making the playoffs with Bozak as our #1 centre.

This season is a write-off.

It's not going to end well.
- Atomic Wedgie

This could be the worst team in the league in a shortened season. What if they start off slow? This team has no idea how to get out of a slump. Realistically this could be an awesome year for tank nation as is. They might not even have to strip the roster down.

We are not making the playoffs with Bozak as our #1 centre.

This season is a write-off.

It's not going to end well.
- Atomic Wedgie

Well if it ends with the Leafs getting MacKinnon or Druin that would give Leaf fans lots of happy endings

Teams what one the cup during last CBA

Canes-not sure
Ducks-yes
Wings-yes
Pens-yes
Hawks-yes
Bruins-yes
Kings-yes
- wingz4life

I'd have to check on the canes but I'm sure there was some key pieces that were developed by them.

Staal comes to mind

I'd have to check on the canes but I'm sure there was some key pieces that were developed by them.

Staal comes to mind
- Dozzer

staal and ward for sure.

WOW u sound like Burke. Sure your not the real Burke? Your blue print is what Burke tried & it didn't work. Can't have it both ways. Either PLAN A: build with your current young players & keep developing young players. OR PLAN B: go for broke, trade the farm for Lu, Getzlaf, Perry & the next best UFA d man available mext summer who ever that may be. The Leafs will than have a 2-3 year window of making the playoffs before spending the next 10 years in mediocrity. Don't know about u, but I'll take plan A. Leafs have been trying plan B for 45 years & it just never works.
- GCHonda

so a team of Kessel, lupul, Getzlaf, Perry, JVR, Phaneuf, Gardiner, Rielly, Gunner, Kadri, Grabo, Luongo isn't enough to contend in your mind?

Agreed. The LA Kings prospects always lead their respective league's in scoring. They have a wealth of great juniors coming up through the ranks.
- GCHonda

The teams who are competing consistently nowadays have all their core developed by their own system.. It takes years.

The leafs are on the right track.. And it's only a couple more years of this pain max.. Then the prospects will begin to make their mark. a couple more high end picks and this team is going to start looking good.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not pro tank, but I'm all for playing with what we got win or lose. What I'm against is the weak attempts at quick fixes.

Well its a new CBA,, maybe building thru the draft isn't the way to go anymore. IDK MAN LIKE (frank) CAN YOU BLAME ME FOR BEING PISSED???????? They have absolutely JACK poop going into this season.. mise well not even turn on the games if they are just gonna lose.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

That's a defeatist attitude. You got to look at the bigger picture. There is no immediate quick fix that will turn it all around. It's hard to accept I know, but it's the truth.

I'd have to check on the canes but I'm sure there was some key pieces that were developed by them.

Staal comes to mind
- Dozzer

i think they are the only iffy team. can think of staal, cam ward.
brought in brindamour
nvm they developed had justin williams, andrew ladd, erik cole

staal and ward for sure.
- daeth

Yeah, both had big roles and Carolina wouldn't of won without them

Really? Their core want drafted/developed by the bruins? Ya might want to check on that
- Dozzer

I count 5 or 6 players that ere drafted/developed by the bruins from that team

Your turn dozzer

i think they are the only iffy team. can think of staal, cam ward.
brought in brindamour
- wingz4life

Yeah I'd have to look at the roster and quite frankly I'm too lazy to do so. I think the point was made

I count 5 or 6 players that ere drafted/developed by the bruins from that team

Your turn dozzer
- faceto27

I am talking about core players. And other than chara the main guys were drafted by Boston.

Hell, even seguin saved their arse in that one game in the semi finals.

Nashville will sign Redden.



Calling it now.

Yeah, both had big roles and Carolina wouldn't of won without them
- Dozzer

So.. If the Leafs win the cup (and the wont cuz they suck) you wouldn't say Kessel Phaneuf Gardiner Grabo and Lupul weren't key pieces to their success? Doesn't matter how you acquire good players.

I am talking about core players. And other than chara the main guys were drafted by Boston.

Hell, even seguin saved their arse in that one game in the semi finals.
- Dozzer

Who??

Goalie?? Nope

Defense?? Nope

They only drafted 5 guys from that team

That's a defeatist attitude. You got to look at the bigger picture. There is no immediate quick fix that will turn it all around. It's hard to accept I know, but it's the truth.
- Dozzer

Some take it harder than others i guess.. But im sure that if the leafs don't improve at all in 5 years i could still come on this site and read the same old comments about how they should tank etc.