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bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jan 15 @ 3:12 PM ET
I guess it was Kulemin..
i dont count Schenn because he got worse and un-developed

- senstroll



Sounds like my buddies wife, she lost 30 lbs and un-developed.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 15 @ 3:12 PM ET
Leafs defense can't afford more subtractions since dealing away Schenn & Aulie. Needs to be forwards that Nonis would deal for Benn. For sure Kadri or Frattin would have to be included. I'd seriously rather keep Kadri. He has MUCH better potential than Frattin. But if Dallas was insistent on Kadri in a deal for Benn, I'd part with Nazem.
- GCHonda

If the Leafs could land a #1 centre, I wouldn't care about this year.

Bring up Fraser and Ranger and whomever else - do not care.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jan 15 @ 3:13 PM ET
Just a note on Rielly and something to think about, Carlyle kept another 18-year-old defenceman in Cam Fowler out of training camp with the Ducks.
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jan 15 @ 3:13 PM ET
I think an offer based around Kulemin, Colborne and say D'Amigo could land Benn.
- Unholy_Forward

....having already ditched ribeiro and with a broke down roy as the top guy they would need a centreman in return....and not a career minor leaguer like colborne, but a blue chipper.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 15 @ 3:14 PM ET
Leafs defense can't afford more subtractions since dealing away Schenn & Aulie. Needs to be forwards that Nonis would deal for Benn. For sure Kadri or Frattin would have to be included. I'd seriously rather keep Kadri. He has MUCH better potential than Frattin. But if Dallas was insistent on Kadri in a deal for Benn, I'd part with Nazem.
- GCHonda

But further to your point, any trade for Benn could include Kadri, Colborne, Connolly, Lombardi, Steckel and/or Bozak.

GCHonda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MABIE NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! , ON
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 15 @ 3:15 PM ET
Luongo's contract is obviously a concern, but he's still a hell of a goaltender. If he had a 5 million dollar contract at say 4 years, I don't think there'd be any hesitation by anyone. It's not everyday a goaltender of his caliber is made available. If I had to choose between giving up either Kadri or Frattin in a Luongo trade, I'd choose Frattin hands down.
- ThePresident



But Kadri has sooooooooooo much potential it's scary. If he ever puts his NHL game together, the Leafs will regret the day they gave up on him. Don't get me wrong, I love Frattin but Kadri just has too much upside. Frattin might be the better NHL player now but Kadri will surpass him one day in a big way.
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jan 15 @ 3:15 PM ET
But further to your point, any trade for Benn could include Kadri, Colborne, Connolly, Lombardi, Steckel and/or Bozak.
- Atomic Wedgie

I'm sure dallas would be thrilled with that package
ThePresident
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NY
Joined: 12.08.2010

Jan 15 @ 3:16 PM ET
But Kadri has sooooooooooo much potential it's scary. If he ever puts his NHL game together, the Leafs will regret the day they gave up on him. Don't get me wrong, I love Frattin but Kadri just has too much upside. Frattin might be the better NHL player now but Kadri will surpass him one day in a big way.
- GCHonda


I agree with you in not giving up Kadri, what I'm trying to say is that I'd throw Frattin into a trade for Luongo rather than Kadri.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 15 @ 3:16 PM ET
just announced...they will be bought out...their cap hit counts this season only...they are paid in full....then can find work with any nhl team.
- Barx

Source?

Any interest in Redden?
GCHonda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MABIE NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! , ON
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 15 @ 3:17 PM ET
....having already ditched ribeiro and with a broke down roy as the top guy they would need a centreman in return....and not a career minor leaguer like colborne, but a blue chipper.
- Barx



Leafs simply don't have that, but if they did, that player would pencilled in between Kessel & Lupol and Nonis would have no interest in Benn.
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jan 15 @ 3:17 PM ET
I agree with you in not giving up Kadri, what I'm trying to say is that I'd throw Frattin into a trade for Luongo rather than Kadri.
- ThePresident

no player of any value better be included in any proposal for luongo....not kadri, not frattin, no gardiner, no rielly, no picks.....they can have komi and connolly and damn well love it.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 15 @ 3:18 PM ET
I agree with you in not giving up Kadri, what I'm trying to say is that I'd throw Frattin into a trade for Luongo rather than Kadri.
- ThePresident

Yes.
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jan 15 @ 3:18 PM ET
Source?

Any interest in Redden?

- Atomic Wedgie

mackenzie....check his twitter
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jan 15 @ 3:18 PM ET
mackenzie, kypreos etc.......check twitter
- Barx

Unholy_Forward
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 06.07.2012

Jan 15 @ 3:18 PM ET
I'd do thid deal in a heart beat as any Leaf fan would, question is...... would the Dallas GM?
- GCHonda



Well they would need a top six C prospect coming back (Kadri or Colborne), a top six winger - Kulemin, MacA, Frattin, and a prospect - D'Amigo, Blacker, Percy, Finn etc
I think this would help get negotiations going. Probably some barking over picks and player choices. I think if we could get Oleksiak or Campbell in the trade it would be awesome, but hey.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jan 15 @ 3:19 PM ET
Source?

Any interest in Redden?

- Atomic Wedgie

Biggest reason why now is that any injury to those players would void or cause a grievance on a buyout next season.

I wonder if that includes off ice ones but it is a moot point now.
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jan 15 @ 3:20 PM ET
Source?

Any interest in Redden?

- Atomic Wedgie


can redden still play?
haven't seen him in years

god knows gomez sure as hell can't
Unholy_Forward
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 06.07.2012

Jan 15 @ 3:20 PM ET
....having already ditched ribeiro and with a broke down roy as the top guy they would need a centreman in return....and not a career minor leaguer like colborne, but a blue chipper.
- Barx

Roy is only 30 though. He seemed to play very well with his teammates in Dallas.
I think Colborne still has some potential. If not they could take Kadri (Ribeiro 2.0) instead.
HockeyBuzzKill
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Carlyle's Back Pocket
Joined: 01.15.2013

Jan 15 @ 3:21 PM ET
As good as Benn is, Leafs don't need another LW. Besides, it's going to take alot for Nonis to get Benn. Better to use the resources to get another young center or goalie. I thimk Reilly is a better option. He can play center, he's young. He won't come with the same trade price as Benn. Besides, the Avs have Stastny & Ducshene at center, making high salaries so O'Reilly is expendable. It's an option Nonis should seriously look into.

Well if the Leafs went after Benn, neither him nor Kulemin nor JVR are 3rd line LW's. So if Dallas is willing to take Kulemin as the big piece in a trade package than mabie a deal could be possible for Benn. I still think O'Reilly fits the Leafs needs more at center.

- GCHonda


Benn plays center. He's listed at LW but has converted to C. Player profile sites need to update this.
GCHonda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MABIE NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! , ON
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 15 @ 3:22 PM ET
I agree with you in not giving up Kadri, what I'm trying to say is that I'd throw Frattin into a trade for Luongo rather than Kadri.
- ThePresident



I wouldn't give up any young asset for Luongo, I'm glad Nonis has even said that himself. Praise the lord!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd ONLY give up quantity for Luongo. Van can take their pick from Connely, Lombardi, Komisarek & Bozak & a few others. Much like the Phaneuf deal. Leafs got Dion for quantity servicable parts.
GCHonda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MABIE NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! , ON
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 15 @ 3:25 PM ET
Benn plays center. He's listed at LW but has converted to C. Player profile sites need to update this.
- HockeyBuzzKill



I stand corrected. I read up further on Benn. He's got a great future as a #1 center. Would be the perfect fit for the Leafs if Nonis can make a smart trade.
Unholy_Forward
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 06.07.2012

Jan 15 @ 3:26 PM ET
I wouldn't give up any young asset for Luongo, I'm glad Nonis has even said that himself. Praise the lord!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd ONLY give up quantity for Luongo. Van can take their pick from Connely, Lombardi, Komisarek & Bozak & a few others. Much like the Phaneuf deal. Leafs got Dion for quantity servicable parts.

- GCHonda



I'd love to see Nonis trade one of Connolly, Lombo or Komi and get a 1st back.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jan 15 @ 3:27 PM ET
Source?

Any interest in Redden?

- Atomic Wedgie

Larry Brooks ‏@NYP_Brooksie

Told that Bost, Tor, Fla, Ott have expressed at least preliminary interest in Redden..
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jan 15 @ 3:28 PM ET
Larry Brooks ‏@NYP_Brooksie

Told that Bost, Tor, Fla, Ott have expressed at least preliminary interest in Redden..

- LeafMan


please god no. id rather lu! and thats saying a lot!
GCHonda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MABIE NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! , ON
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 15 @ 3:29 PM ET
Well they would need a top six C prospect coming back (Kadri or Colborne), a top six winger - Kulemin, MacA, Frattin, and a prospect - D'Amigo, Blacker, Percy, Finn etc
I think this would help get negotiations going. Probably some barking over picks and player choices. I think if we could get Oleksiak or Campbell in the trade it would be awesome, but hey.

- Unholy_Forward



Preferably I'd rather have the Stars talke Colborne. Reason is cause Colborne is primarily a center. If the Leafs gett Benn, they'd have Benn & Grabo as their top 2 centers, so Colborne is expendable. Kadri can play the wing so he's more valuable to the Leafs than Colborne.
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