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pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jan 15 @ 1:16 AM ET
As of right now you have neither a current, nor future Stanley Cup team.
- Jeffmt


Jealous much?
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 15 @ 1:16 AM ET
I said stanley cup contender. 1 game away from cup, and are still one of the favorites for the next 3 years with our prospects growing.
- pker2theend


mventres
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 06.09.2008

Jan 15 @ 1:16 AM ET
That package wouldn't get the deal done, and even if it did, Pittsburgh wouldn't be able to keep Benn because their payroll is so high. That and the fact that it simply wouldn't be fair.
- SteveTambellini


That's basically 3 first round picks for Benn...Despres looks NHL ready, Bennett is on the cusp, so likely non-busts...and one pick where Dallas can do what they desire...

Benn is worth more than 3 1st rounders??? Two of which who already look to be pretty good players??
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Jan 15 @ 1:16 AM ET
For the next 3 years? DAMN.

I would say, and alot would agree. This might be the last year for this core group to get it done.

- Cherry--Skoal

i think they end up like the sharks, good team but never won jack poop and their fans talk a lot..
nkryska
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 01.15.2013

Jan 15 @ 1:17 AM ET
It won't be you guys, because you'll be out in the first round. We'll be sitting with a top 5 drafted player. Will you still be laughing then?
- PrinceLH



Can I quote you on that? please? Is that your goal? to eat poop every year and get a high draft pick? Sounds like garbage to me. I'd rather have a good team that can contend every year then to wear a damn paper bag on my head at a game to hide my shame

And that is the kind of confidence I am talking about. Nothing in the last 10 years but still enough balls to trash a team that has finished first in the league the last 2 years
Cherry--Skoal
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.01.2010

Jan 15 @ 1:17 AM ET
Jealous much?
- pker2theend

You want a team witha chance to win the cup NOW and in the future... Look at the Orange team in the atlantic
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Jan 15 @ 1:17 AM ET
i think benn eventually signs with Dallas..
mventres
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 06.09.2008

Jan 15 @ 1:17 AM ET
Any trade involving Benn would have to have Sutter going back. Didnt they let Staal go because of money? How could they afford Benn?
- Bluechip23


No. They offered Staal the same deal he signed in CAR. He wanted to leave as he wanted to be a top 2C, never gonna happen in PITT.

Yeah, I figured Sutter would have to go back...trying to get around that, lol. Just an idea anyways...
Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Jan 15 @ 1:17 AM ET
I said stanley cup contender. 1 game away from cup, and are still one of the favorites for the next 3 years with our prospects growing.
- pker2theend


Growing what exactly?
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 15 @ 1:17 AM ET
Jelous much?
- pker2theend


Of the Canucks? Because there arent cup winning teams to be jealous of?

I hate your team and roster. Boston, LA, Chi, Det...now those teams im jealous of.
mventres
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 06.09.2008

Jan 15 @ 1:18 AM ET
i think benn eventually signs with Dallas..
- wingz4life


I agree, it's just fun to postulate
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jan 15 @ 1:18 AM ET
Growing what exactly?
- Jeffmt


Balls of Steel.
SteveTambellini
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.31.2011

Jan 15 @ 1:18 AM ET
Hence a sweetener. Bozak? Franson? Maybe even a Kadri. That's where the younger assets can be dealt, to get younger assets back. Dallas has more holes to fill and we can help them do it, for a price.
- PrinceLH


The value of Franson and Kadri is questionable. Bozak would have decent value in a 1-for-1 trade, but that value is cut sharply when he is being added as a "sweetener". Let's just say that Kessel and Bozak for Benn is what would be considered "fair value". Dallas still has no motivation to make that trade because they are losing the best and most desirable player in the deal. Most of the time with trades like that, it takes an overpayment. Even if the Stars did get into a situation where the absolutely had to deal Jamie Benn, I can pretty much guarantee they would get something at least a little bit better than Kessel and Bozak.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 15 @ 1:18 AM ET
Growing what exactly?
- Jeffmt


ch-ch-ch-chia
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Jan 15 @ 1:18 AM ET
Growing what exactly?
- Jeffmt

who the hell knows, its not brain cells I know that, more like the opposite.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 15 @ 1:18 AM ET
Balls of Steel.
- pker2theend


Cherry--Skoal
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.01.2010

Jan 15 @ 1:18 AM ET
Can I quote you on that? please? Is that your goal? to eat poop every year and get a high draft pick? Sounds like garbage to me. I'd rather have a good team that can contend every year then to wear a damn paper bag on my head at a game to hide my shame

And that is the kind of confidence I am talking about. Nothing in the last 10 years but still enough balls to trash a team that has finished first in the league the last 2 years

- nkryska

Finished 1st in the league 2 years in a row but still have done the same thing as the leafs. Not win anything
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jan 15 @ 1:19 AM ET
Of the Canucks? Because there arent cup winning teams to be jealous of?

I hate your team and roster. Boston, LA, Chi, Det...now those teams im jealous of.

- systemtool


http://answers.yahoo.com/...qid=20081103041249AATfK3C
SteveTambellini
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.31.2011

Jan 15 @ 1:19 AM ET
i think benn eventually signs with Dallas..
- wingz4life


I think you're right, and I think it happens very soon. Something comparable to the Hall/Eberle contracts.
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 15 @ 1:19 AM ET
For the next 3 years? DAMN.

I would say, and alot would agree. This might be the last year for this core group to get it done.

- Cherry--Skoal

They're on the Calgary tangent. They've had their chance and each year, they do even less. They'll get in. Maybe win one round, but that'll be it. I can't see them building a young, exciting team, from what they have in their system. It's allot like the cupboard, when the Quinn era in Toronto ended. A few mediocre players and allot of never will be's. That's the future of Vancouver. Fear not, you won't have to worry about reaching the cap floor for 10 years. Loungo will keep you above that floor with his contract.
Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Jan 15 @ 1:19 AM ET
Jealous much?
- pker2theend


No, you haven't won anything. I understand that the Leafs haven't made the playoffs in forever but if you think we're jealous of the Canucks for getting swept in the first round you're dreaming.
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Jan 15 @ 1:20 AM ET
I think you're right, and I think it happens very soon. Something comparable to the Hall/Eberle contracts.
- SteveTambellini

now, Reily out in colorado is different, already playing in KHL for big $
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jan 15 @ 1:20 AM ET
Finished 1st in the league 2 years in a row but still have done the same thing as the leafs. Not win anything
- Cherry--Skoal


Enjoyed great playoffs
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Jan 15 @ 1:20 AM ET
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081103041249AATfK3C
- pker2theend

Cherry--Skoal
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.01.2010

Jan 15 @ 1:20 AM ET
Of the Canucks? Because there arent cup winning teams to be jealous of?

I hate your team and roster. Boston, LA, Chi, Det...now those teams im jealous of.

- systemtool

I was jealous of Det... but slowly but surely that is going to fade...I'm jealous of boston, philly, LA, Chi...oh yeah...edmonton
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