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BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Jan 14 @ 3:45 PM ET
I think Miller is a very good goalie I was just throwing it out there Miller for Luongo.
- SABRES 89

Miller is more then capable to get the job done if the team in front of him is , as well.

just my 2 cents.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jan 14 @ 3:47 PM ET
I know your passionate about hating MIller... but it is when Miller feels pressure.. and a huge challenge that he is at his best. I think that Lindy putting this season square on his shoulders is going to motivate Miller to the extreme. I think there will be a few bumps and softies in the first few games.. but in the long run... IT IS TIME!
- JVince11

I think Miller is better under pressure then Luongo, just threw out the trade proposal to see what some thought.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jan 14 @ 3:47 PM ET
I know your passionate about hating MIller... but it is when Miller feels pressure.. and a huge challenge that he is at his best. I think that Lindy putting this season square on his shoulders is going to motivate Miller to the extreme. I think there will be a few bumps and softies in the first few games.. but in the long run... IT IS TIME!
- JVince11

http://sabres.nhl.com/clu...oxscore.htm?id=2010030127
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jan 14 @ 3:48 PM ET
Actually i'm not old and yea she looks like the blond on the left, to be honest
- SABRES 89

i didn't think you were.. but that statement screamed creepy old man..
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jan 14 @ 3:49 PM ET
i didn't think you were.. but that statement screamed creepy old man..
- SabresFaninIndiana

Yea your right but that was for Homie and he knows what i'm talking about.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jan 14 @ 3:49 PM ET
I don't know a ton about the Red Wings roster... but...

I would trade Miller with 1.5 years remaining for Jimmy Howard+ or for Hiller+ from Anaheim. Cheaper.. longer.. and has shown equal skill. All of them have their criticisms.

I would even trade him to Chicago at this point. a goalie can be masked by talent in front of him.. but a defense cannot rely on a goalie to win every game 1-0 and 2-1 like the Sabres rely on Miller. If he is going to be paid what he is.. and cannot win 1-0 and 2-1 games consistently then that money should be turned else where.
Sabresfan88
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.01.2011

Jan 14 @ 3:50 PM ET
Crap goalie for a crap goalie . It would give us someone new to hate on. Don't think it makes the team any better. But someone new to hate would be a welcome .

- cabin


Miller is NOT a crap goalie!!
Fix the team in front of him, he is a more than capable goalie!!
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 14 @ 3:50 PM ET
http://sabres.nhl.com/clu...oxscore.htm?id=2010030127
- SabresFaninIndiana



Buffalo outshot 16-2 in the first.


Nuff said...
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jan 14 @ 3:52 PM ET
http://sabres.nhl.com/clu...oxscore.htm?id=2010030127
- SabresFaninIndiana


c'mon.. you are more grown up than that... anyone could throw out a few games where a goalie was burned up.. patrick roy has given up 8+ goals in games before and so Brodeur.

Anyone can turn around and throw out hte box scores to a bunch of shutouts or great wins... West Coast trip last year with 3 straight shutouts.. or even that when Miller is in the playoffs he has 4 shutouts in the last two appearances.. maybe it was 3?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 14 @ 3:52 PM ET
I know your passionate about hating MIller... but it is when Miller feels pressure.. and a huge challenge that he is at his best. I think that Lindy putting this season square on his shoulders is going to motivate Miller to the extreme. I think there will be a few bumps and softies in the first few games.. but in the long run... IT IS TIME!
- JVince11

I don't hate the guy

Just can't remember when he won a playoff series
the ranger series but that was a long time ago


seems that aside from that one game vs the flyers, in the series (4?), he comes out blah when the team needs him the most.

He will go on a few great runs here and there, like that west coast trip after the all star game, but then it goes away far too often.

I don't think he needs to be that on, but keep the jets and leafs down to 2 or 3 goals so they can win those games instead of forcing this core to score 6
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 14 @ 3:54 PM ET
I don't hate the guy

Just can't remember when he won a playoff series
the ranger series but that was a long time ago


seems that aside from that one game vs the flyers, in the series (4?), he comes out blah when the team needs him the most.

He will go on a few great runs here and there, like that west coast trip after the all star game, but then it goes away far too often.

I don't think he needs to be that on, but keep the jets and leafs down to 2 or 3 goals so they can win those games instead of forcing this core to score 6

- homiedclown

He did shutout the Flyers twice 2 yrs ago
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 14 @ 3:55 PM ET
I don't know a ton about the Red Wings roster... but...

I would trade Miller with 1.5 years remaining for Jimmy Howard+ or for Hiller+ from Anaheim. Cheaper.. longer.. and has shown equal skill. All of them have their criticisms.

I would even trade him to Chicago at this point. a goalie can be masked by talent in front of him.. but a defense cannot rely on a goalie to win every game 1-0 and 2-1 like the Sabres rely on Miller. If he is going to be paid what he is.. and cannot win 1-0 and 2-1 games consistently then that money should be turned else where.

- JVince11



finally common ground
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 14 @ 3:55 PM ET
I don't hate the guy

Just can't remember when he won a playoff series
the ranger series but that was a long time ago


seems that aside from that one game vs the flyers, in the series (4?), he comes out blah when the team needs him the most.

He will go on a few great runs here and there, like that west coast trip after the all star game, but then it goes away far too often.

I don't think he needs to be that on, but keep the jets and leafs down to 2 or 3 goals so they can win those games instead of forcing this core to score 6

- homiedclown



Core is such a dirty word.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jan 14 @ 3:56 PM ET
I don't hate the guy

Just can't remember when he won a playoff series
the ranger series but that was a long time ago


seems that aside from that one game vs the flyers, in the series (4?), he comes out blah when the team needs him the most.

He will go on a few great runs here and there, like that west coast trip after the all star game, but then it goes away far too often.

I don't think he needs to be that on, but keep the jets and leafs down to 2 or 3 goals so they can win those games instead of forcing this core to score 6

- homiedclown


i agree with what you say. he is not a stonewall by any means. Everyone wants him to play Vezina level more consistently.

The only problem I have with everyone looking at box scores is that we all know Lindy's system relies on him getting shelled late in games when we have a 1 or 2 goal lead. They leave him out to dry. As soon as Buf has a goal lead in any game they just dump and chase and hope Miller can carry them to a 1-0, 2-1, or 2-0 lead. Buffalo even has the least ENGs in the NHL over the course of the last 5 years I believe. FINISH.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 14 @ 3:57 PM ET
He did shutout the Flyers twice 2 yrs ago
- sbroads24

yep

and played like crap in games 2,3,6,7

he needs the lows not to be so low even if that means the highs are not so high
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 14 @ 3:58 PM ET
Now Miller is crap goalie?
Since when ?
I mean if you want to say he is a crap goalie because of his contract then that is a different story but to just say the guy is a crap goalie you lose all credibilty with a statement like that.

- BuffaloHardHat

Miller CAN be a good goalie. So can Lou. To me they are the same . My opinion we will see the same average goalie that we have seen in the past . If he has a stellar year? good for him . about F'n time .
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jan 14 @ 3:58 PM ET
c'mon.. you are more grown up than that... anyone could throw out a few games where a goalie was burned up.. patrick roy has given up 8+ goals in games before and so Brodeur.

Anyone can turn around and throw out hte box scores to a bunch of shutouts or great wins... West Coast trip last year with 3 straight shutouts.. or even that when Miller is in the playoffs he has 4 shutouts in the last two appearances.. maybe it was 3?

- JVince11

i dont think he always stands up when he is pressured... sometimes he folds. He can stand up and take control but he can also crawl into his shell..

The first few games will be telling, and with the long layoff i am a bit nervous. I think it is good that Enroth has been playing as much as he has because we may need to rely on him till miller gets it back
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jan 14 @ 3:58 PM ET


finally common ground

- homiedclown


I wish there was a state for one goal games won because i would imagine Miller would be pretty high.

Miller is paid to be an elite goalie which he would be in any other system than Ruff's.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 14 @ 3:59 PM ET
yep

and played like crap in games 2,3,6,7

he needs the lows not to be so low even if that means the highs are not so high

- homiedclown

I didn't think game 7 was even close to his fault. Pominville, and Connolly went out and the Flyers had us on our heels that game
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 14 @ 3:59 PM ET
i agree with what you say. he is not a stonewall by any means. Everyone wants him to play Vezina level more consistently.

The only problem I have with everyone looking at box scores is that we all know Lindy's system relies on him getting shelled late in games when we have a 1 or 2 goal lead. They leave him out to dry. As soon as Buf has a goal lead in any game they just dump and chase and hope Miller can carry them to a 1-0, 2-1, or 2-0 lead. Buffalo even has the least ENGs in the NHL over the course of the last 5 years I believe. FINISH.

- JVince11

the other thing with him is the sabres are down 2 goals
they score to get within 1 goal
then miller lets in that weak goal to lose all of the momentum

He was a much better goalie for a team rolling 3 lines then the current shell Lindy uses.

Open it up and only when you have a 3 goal lead should they go into a shell
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jan 14 @ 4:00 PM ET
i dont think he always stands up when he is pressured... sometimes he folds. He can stand up and take control but he can also crawl into his shell..

The first few games will be telling, and with the long layoff i am a bit nervous. I think it is good that Enroth has been playing as much as he has because we may need to rely on him till miller gets it back

- SabresFaninIndiana


Miller was at practice every day with the LA Kings team basically doing drills, defending shots, and doing scrimmages. Just like Biron was with the Sabres every day.

It is not like he was eating chicken wings.. but he wasn't playing overseas either at game speed.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 14 @ 4:00 PM ET
Miller is NOT a crap goalie!!
Fix the team in front of him, he is a more than capable goalie!!

- Sabresfan88



88 , Blame 89.. he started it
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jan 14 @ 4:00 PM ET
I didn't think game 7 was even close to his fault. Pominville, and Connolly went out and the Flyers had us on our heels that game
- sbroads24


Agreed. we had shambles of a lineup for that game... Roy came back for that game from tearing his quad.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 14 @ 4:01 PM ET
I didn't think game 7 was even close to his fault. Pominville, and Connolly went out and the Flyers had us on our heels that game
- sbroads24

games 3 and 4 were ones we should have had


game 6 if ruff opened it up a bit

unless miller stood on his head, no chance of them winning game 7 and I did not expect a win once the flyers scored in ot of game 6
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jan 14 @ 4:01 PM ET
the other thing with him is the sabres are down 2 goals
they score to get within 1 goal
then miller lets in that weak goal to lose all of the momentum

He was a much better goalie for a team rolling 3 lines then the current shell Lindy uses.

Open it up and only when you have a 3 goal lead should they go into a shell

- homiedclown


Yup... that is why fans watch.. coaches coach.. and players play. There is basically only one team that is happy with their coaching staff at the end of a season.

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