I read a few things that weren't positive(not just on hockeybuzz, hopefully x wasn't referring to HB posters?) as far as the Islanders are concerned. In that kind of situation nobody wins.
- Cptmjl

I want to use twitter to get hockey info........anyone have any suggestions for names i should add?

Sidenote: i've never used twitter.....

The point is they don't have to be outwardly vindictive and verbal to make their point to Vis to "f**k off". Let the process run its course. Say all the right things, do everything that the rules permit you to do. Just don't be obvioulsy vindictive and spiteful. It accomplishes nothing but making a team's already poor reputation worse.
- Jethro09

I'm just not sure the Isles' actions from this point forward in this situation matter one way or another to the team's reputation. Fixing the poor reputation requires...fixing the reasons why this team has a poor reputation. Only changing the franchise's course entirely will make a trade to the Isles not seem like a death sentence to players. Vis could end up coming here, playing, liking it, and re-signing, just like Nabokov did, and it still probably wouldn't matter to the next guy in his situation who's traded here...just like the resolution of the Nabokov situation obviously mattered very little to Vis. People don't want to play here because, right now, it's seen as a dead end. Just imo, there has to be a big shift from living off the scrap heap and finding deals/making decisions on a purely financial basis to a serious commitment to winning at any cost for the franchise to be taken seriously.

How do you explain PA playing so well with out Moulson and Tavares? Having Nielsen as second line center makes Snow look even more incompetent, after all he was the one who said he does not belong on the second line and it was his job to find a replacement.
- Cptmjl

I guess we will have to see how PA does this season.

I don't dislike PA... but even the so called experts on TSN think he made a mistake leaving.

He had it pretty good on the Island... too bad.

He was good on the other line... but very good on Tavares wing!!!

Tavares is a top 10 player in this league.

Hoping for big things for him this year!!!

The CBA was just signed... he couldn't do anything even if he wanted...lol.

The season officially started 2 days ago!!!

I want to use twitter to get hockey info........anyone have any suggestions for names i should add?

Sidenote: i've never used twitter.....
- kindlyrick

Darren dreger
Bobmackinze
Bdgallof
Arthurstaples

BDgallof posted a story on twitter on how someone wrote that you can stop strome with physical play

So stupid

You could have said the same about JT his rookie year, Ryan nugent-Hopkins last year, stamkos his rookie year

Also, on the PP strome will do damage with or without a physical defense

Following the Nabokov thing, the Isles were a "laughingstock" on Hockeybuzz message boards, not among people around the game and the overall media. The Nabokov move was more puzzling because the team was out of it already and they put a waiver claim in on a guy that wasn't going to get them into the playoffs. Doesn't mean that it wasn't the right move, just a puzzling one. The Visnovsky thing is entirely different.

During the summer, the Isles made a trade for a player that immediately upgraded their PP and "D" in a respectable effort to reach the playoffs. The trade was a smart idea by Snow and a sound, tactical decision made to improve the team. Nobody can blame the Isles for a) not exhausting every avenue to get this player, who can legitimately help this team on the ice, to honor his contract, or b) blame the team for simply giving into Visnovsky and trading him to where he wants to go and throwing away a second rounder in the process (a pick they will not recoup by trading Visnovsky away at this point, since everyone knows the Isles are over a barrel with Vis right now).

Usually, the Isles are the ones handling a situation badly with questionable and puzzling decisions. Not this time. They are 100% in the right and I applaud them tolling his deal if it comes to that. There may be some "damage" done as a result of this, but certianly not nearly as much damage than if they said "well, okay. We'll trade you or let you out of your deal". The team would look like laughingstocks if they did that. I applaud them holding this player accountable to honor his contract and do whatever they can to improve their roster.
- Jethro09

good post, we're in agreement on this issue for sure.

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- Danformo

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Following the Nabokov thing, the Isles were a "laughingstock" on Hockeybuzz message boards, not among people around the game and the overall media. The Nabokov move was more puzzling because the team was out of it already and they put a waiver claim in on a guy that wasn't going to get them into the playoffs. Doesn't mean that it wasn't the right move, just a puzzling one. The Visnovsky thing is entirely different.

During the summer, the Isles made a trade for a player that immediately upgraded their PP and "D" in a respectable effort to reach the playoffs. The trade was a smart idea by Snow and a sound, tactical decision made to improve the team. Nobody can blame the Isles for a) not exhausting every avenue to get this player, who can legitimately help this team on the ice, to honor his contract, or b) blame the team for simply giving into Visnovsky and trading him to where he wants to go and throwing away a second rounder in the process (a pick they will not recoup by trading Visnovsky away at this point, since everyone knows the Isles are over a barrel with Vis right now).

Usually, the Isles are the ones handling a situation badly with questionable and puzzling decisions. Not this time. They are 100% in the right and I applaud them tolling his deal if it comes to that. There may be some "damage" done as a result of this, but certianly not nearly as much damage than if they said "well, okay. We'll trade you or let you out of your deal". The team would look like laughingstocks if they did that. I applaud them holding this player accountable to honor his contract and do whatever they can to improve their roster.
- Jethro09

This wasn't just a hockey buzz situation, we were laughing stocks everywhere, this team was made out to be the bad guys... right or wrong has nothing to do with it.. the perception was horrendous.

The Viz trade was awesome... he is a great player that can really help this team, But his not wanting to be here, from calling the trade illegal to him staying in the KHL to little things like us buying him a ticket and him not using it (we did the same thing with Nabby & he did the same thing) makes this team look pathetic

XxNYIxX

I guess we will have to see how PA does this season.

I don't dislike PA... but even the so called experts on TSN think he made a mistake leaving.

He had it pretty good on the Island... too bad.

He was good on the other line... but very good on Tavares wing!!!

Tavares is a top 10 player in this league.

Hoping for big things for him this year!!!

The CBA was just signed... he couldn't do anything even if he wanted...lol.

The season officially started 2 days ago!!!
- jimmc7722

even while PA was playing on the second line he was still on the first PP unit with MM and JT, hence a lot of points continued to come for him. I see him as Jason Blake 2.0 and was glad we didn't give him the 4 mil per year he got in colorado. I don't like Boyes taking that spot and think KO or even Nino/Strome would be a better choice, but overall I don't think losing PA hurts us. Wonder if Colorado might end up using the buyout on PA in the summer if his year turns out as badly as I think it will.

I read a few things that weren't positive(not just on hockeybuzz, hopefully x wasn't referring to HB posters?) as far as the Islanders are concerned. In that kind of situation nobody wins.
- Cptmjl

Exactly... I think the Isles are doing everything right in this situation, that doesn't mean that the view of the public is going to care.. its the Islanders.... so its a circus situation.


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This wasn't just a hockey buzz situation, we were laughing stocks everywhere, this team was made out to be the bad guys... right or wrong has nothing to do with it.. the perception was horrendous.

The Viz trade was awesome... he is a great player that can really help this team, But his not wanting to be here, from calling the trade illegal to him staying in the KHL to little things like us buying him a ticket and him not using it (we did the same think with Nabby & he did the same thing) makes this team look pathetic

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- XxNYIxX

I disagree. The team here looks like they're trying to improve and LV looks ridiculous for not reporting and trying to find a different way out each time.

I disagree. The team here looks like they're trying to improve and LV looks ridiculous for not reporting and trying to find a different way out each time.
- Isles_since_6

OK

XxNYIxX

I disagree. The team here looks like they're trying to improve and LV looks ridiculous for not reporting and trying to find a different way out each time.
- Isles_since_6

He could be in big do do.. with the NHL, and the IIHF.

This wasn't just a hockey buzz situation, we were laughing stocks everywhere, this team was made out to be the bad guys... right or wrong has nothing to do with it.. the perception was horrendous.

The Viz trade was awesome... he is a great player that can really help this team, But his not wanting to be here, from calling the trade illegal to him staying in the KHL to little things like us buying him a ticket and him not using it (we did the same thing with Nabby & he did the same thing) makes this team look pathetic
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- XxNYIxX

I don't think it makes them look pathetic. They have looked pathetic for the better part of the past 18 years or so. It makes them look like a team trying to improve. It makes them look like a team that acknowledges its team was miserable and they are trying to turn things around with smart trades.

Look at this situation from a long-term perspective: give into Visnovsky. "Do right by him" and wrong by the organization and let him stay over in the KHL for the rest of the year. What does that accomplish? Not only have you thrown away a second round draft pick, you've essentially sent a message around hockey that if you whine and female dog enough, you can get out of playing on the Isles. You've put the rest of the league on notice that it is more important to your organization to "do right by players" than it is to make the playoffs.

Is it sad that the Isles are the organization that nobody seems to want to go play for? Yes, it is. But I find it to be much more pathetic if they were to throw up their hands and say "well, we tried and poor us, nobody wants to come here" and quit doing what they actually can do (make trades for talented players) to try to make this team better. They can't force guys to sign as UFA's, but they sure as s**t can trade for players and expect them to honor their contracts. There's nothing pathetic about expecting players to honor their contracts.

Ok so how many wins do you think we get this year. I am shooting for 20 myself got to start low with this team

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- Danformo

That's a good start..I have Botta but he's a wussy...also I follow some of the players- Tavares, Hamonic, Grabner, Okposo, reinhardt, Moulson...they are funny sometimes...

Ok so how many wins do you think we get this year. I am shooting for 20 myself got to start low with this team
- kasperrko

Tough to say..........on paper they shouldnt be much better than last year, but you never know.

I love the typical Garth Snow response. He loves the team the team is fine. OMG does this guy ever say anything else. He is like that lost muppet
- kasperrko

He's a clown...should be fired...

I don't think it makes them look pathetic. They have looked pathetic for the better part of the past 18 years or so.
- Jethro09

The only thing that REALLY makes them look pathetic (well, since Dinglebury has been gone, anyway), IMO, is the ongoing aforementioned DiPietro saga.....as I said, at some point, you have to admit there's no fish, and cut bait, as the saying goes. That said, I can't kill them for a lot of other things- Niederreiter SHOULD HAVE been in Bridgeport last year, but he couldn't be. This is why I have this feeling that if Strome impresses enough in camp, he'll stay, for the same reason. If I draft a player, I want him to develop in my system. Him scoring 80,000 points at age 19, playing with boys, isn't helping MY team. That stupid rule isn't the Islanders' fault.

Also, you can't sign free agents who won't sign- I mean, we can't even get players who are traded here to report (until they ACTUALLY see Long Island, as opposed to just that decrepit building), never mind signing free agents. The man finally gave up on (the TRULY pathetic) Nassau County, which was about the last thing left over which I'd really rake him over the coals; until he can pull in some real revenue, he's going to bleed as little money as possible, which I can't fault him for, either. I think we're really getting close to not being pathetic at all anymore- we're just one Rick DiPietro buyout and a new building away from that, at this point.

How do you explain PA playing so well with out Moulson and Tavares? Having Nielsen as second line center makes Snow look even more incompetent, after all he was the one who said he does not belong on the second line and it was his job to find a replacement.
- Cptmjl

Agreed...he needs three NHL quality players- a 2nd line center like you mentioned...a power RW that can play with JT and Moulson, a top 4 defenseman...then you sprinkle in some depth players like Boyes, Carkner, etc...and hope some of your prospects turn out to be studs. What Snow does is he goes after depth signings and forgets to bring in some quality...he's a chump. I think he thinks we are stupid...

I guess we will have to see how PA does this season.

I don't dislike PA... but even the so called experts on TSN think he made a mistake leaving.
He had it pretty good on the Island... too bad.

He was good on the other line... but very good on Tavares wing!!!

Tavares is a top 10 player in this league.

Hoping for big things for him this year!!!

The CBA was just signed... he couldn't do anything even if he wanted...lol.

The season officially started 2 days ago!!!
- jimmc7722

I think he did too but you can't blame the guy for going to the money. May be his only big pay day? I think he'll be fine in Colorado and do better than you think.

Wonder what it would take to trade for Tyler Myers?
- kindlyrick

Joe Finley picked up off waivers from Sabres
6'8" 234 lbs (great size....if he can skate)
5 NHL games with buffalo last year.
Only real stat: 12 PIM's in 5 NHL games. -3
Way to go Garth....you fleeced another team of their (secretly) best player. Wishart put on waivers to make room....
Plan the parade.

Joe Finley picked up off waivers from Sabres
6'8" 234 lbs (great size....if he can skate)
5 NHL games with buffalo last year.
Only real stat: 12 PIM's in 5 NHL games. -3
Way to go Garth....you fleeced another team of their (secretly) best player. Wishart put on waivers to make room....
Plan the parade.
- jmo16

I hear they are having a "presser at 3pm" about the signing...it will be streamed on Islanders website...

I think he did too but you can't blame the guy for going to the money. May be his only big pay day? I think he'll be fine in Colorado and do better than you think.
- Cptmjl

He'll have good offensive number for sure, but what you won't see so much on the score sheet is his knack for pulling up at the blue line, blindly passing the puck and turning it over more often than not. That said, the Islanders have a decent sized gap to fill point-wise with him not being here.

Wishart on waivers to make room at camp for Finley per Arthur Staple.

We were the laughing stock of the league during that whole stand off then tolling of his contract... him signing here in the end doesn't change the fact that for a season & a half we looked like the bad guys.

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- XxNYIxX

you think people looked at the isles and laughed at them as opposed to looking at nabby and saying hes a baby???