I would at least see if Colorado is interested in Keith.
- powerenforcer

That is tough. He has been one of my favorite current Hawks. I still think if he was a few inches taller and a few pounds heavier he would get less flak from Hawk fans. No doubt his game slipped since the norris, but he is still one of the top D-men and minute munchers in the league. I do think he would bring a lot back in trade, plus his contract and length will hurt the club going forward. But, how bad would the D look with him gone? We wiuld need another D for sure.

Rielly and Gardiner will become a better pairing than Keith and Seabrook within 2 years."
- woopstash

Is that after Gardiner waked up from his concussion or when when Morgan Reilly becomes strong enough to play against men????

I suspect both Keith and Seabrook will be retired before your prediction happens...or they both sprout wings.

I just don't think player additions are made solely by owner, GM or coach.

Is it a even one point per person vote?

I don't think so, but as on the ice the team decides, and I ma pretty sure that the GM & coach want to be on board somewhat equally but we all know that some coachs who are not condient with their standing are gonna go with the flow.

Other coaches are gonna puch for some of their old guys mostly because they have been to war with them know what they bring in the room, bench and on the pond.

if the owner says to the GM get your coach what he said he thinks is missing, the GM job does become tough, in that a UFA move only cost cash, and cap anf a trade costs you players, futures, and the GM better have a fairly good background hidstory of what he is paying for...it's not like their is a consumer reports to check out potential additions.

I would guess Jamal Mayers, Andre Brunette were Q suggestions that both he and Bowman managed to get at a workable price.

I would think that Stalberg, Frolik were all deals put together to free cap and the pro scouting staffs had a lot of imput on...Emery, Lepisto, Montador, Campoli, and Oduya were probably co-operative endeavours where the group was looking for a speciifc need on the back line and both GM & coach trusted each other that the player was a fit and so was the money.

Call me crazy but I don't see the start of the season being next weekend as some starter pistol to trade frenzy.
So far all we have seen is a tough guy go East and diappointing guy and youngster go West....not any reshaping move.

If I am the GM of any NHL club by this time I had all August to feel the pulse of the market, evaluate my weakness and survey how my farm may help...
and I am probably thinking lets see how we start...if there are no gaping holes, no big injuries, or no surprise prospects, I am probably taking my chances that my team can keep close in most games and win our fair share.
If we don't then maybe I try to shake things up when I can establish another trading partner who has a similar need for a shake-up.

I think that many discussion will start and continue for weeks them months that lead to the trade deadline, because by them I have a reall good idea where my team is weak.

Right now I, like every other general manager is thinkng we are in thsi sprint, and I can noy going to be hasty now.

Granted there will be teams that will clearly go for being that club that wants to improve and challenge this playoff.
They will be talking rather quickly.

and teams who are missing stars awaiting their return from the mend, like Kelser and Kopitar might be more than ready to cash in on return with any player they know they want to move...Luongo, of course, Bernier not unless...

I think we are seeing our excitement for the games to begin pushing our fanboyness past the true reality of where we are right now:

Seeing how those major league rosters will get filled from inside.
- wiz1901

All those frothing at the mouth on every trade speculation and rumor will just end up with alot of froth at this point despite what Ecklund posts. Teams are going to assess and get through camp and the the first 2 weeks to see what the he!! is up or down.

It absolutely f'n does matter what players were provided to Q. Giving him stiffs like Pisani, Lepisto, Brendan Morrison, Ryan Johnson, Jamal Mayers, Brunette etc and asking him to do the same with them as he did with Ladd, Buff, Brouwer and others makes no sense at all.

And what do you mean that all of these players were Richarded around with? The team won the Cup and at that was the only measurement that means anything. He won with the team he was provided with.

I will be the first to say I don't like some of the stuff I see at times - too much line juggling; sending a guy like Frolik to the outhouse and continuing to play an inept Andrew Brunette who he probably handpicked; mismanaging the minutes and situational use of Duncan Keith and trying to deliver a message with John Scott are just a few.

But Q himself didn't allow the 2 soft goals in OT on home ice that Crawford did. Show me a great goalie and I will show you a very good hockey coach. Q didn't accumulate 600+ wins as an NHL coach by being a complete idiot, even though I think he was outcoached by Dave Tippett in that series. Stan Bowman Jr. will never, ever get near Q's win numbers in his managerial career. But put Ken Holland in Bowman's place tomorrow and you would quickly see a much smarter bench boss in Joel Quennville.
- RickJ

Put Barry Trotz in Q's place and you would quickly see a much smarter team on the ice.

If I recall correctly, the last few Stanley Cup winning coaches are hard asses who don't roll out the carpet for every young player who thinks his sh$t don't stink. Daryl Sutter, Q, Mike Babcock don't just give jobs to young guys, they make them earn it with good and consistent play. And they prefer the learning is done down on the farm not in the NHL.

Q's primary job function is not young player development. But it seems to me he hasn't hindered Toews or Kane at all and he recognized when Andrew Shaw could deliver something at the NHL level despite his young age. And he also recognizes when guys like Morin, Lalonde, Hayes etc aren't ready for prime time.
- RickJ

Thanks again for making my point. Darryl Sutter believes in his players top down. He wastes not one minute of time worrying about who the other team has on the ice. He rolls his 4 lines 95% of the time. Nobody needs a coach to roll out a red carpet, just 1. tell them what is expected. 2. Give them an opportunity to prove themselves and 3 put them is positions to succeed. Q rides his big guys and holds them out to his team, and then when they fail...and it is the stars that fail on pp and pk, the rest of the team tunes out the rest. So has Q hindered Toews and Kane, probably more than you think.

Just had to look it up.

http://www.playboy.com/ga...tten-playmate-of-the-year
- NewToHockey

Her life ended very early and badly.

All those frothing at the mouth on every trade speculation and rumor will just end up with alot of froth at this point despite what Ecklund posts. Teams are going to assess and get through camp and the the first 2 weeks to see what the he!! is up or down.
- bogiedoc

The point that is most important...

Those that evaluate their needs the quickest will be best off....It would surprise me if it would be easy to put anything of significant value together near this trade deadline.

Teams may look to dump a big contract but there should be many clubs in the battle for the final playoff spots and not many sellers.

@AlCimaglia

Looks like Bolland is going to start at 2c.

Her life ended very early and badly.
- Al

Indeed.

I looked it up...and now wish I hadn't.

Indeed.

I looked it up...and now wish I hadn't.
- Ogilthorpe2

Whst happened ?

Looks like Bolland is going to start at 2c.
- southernhawk

About F'ing time

Whst happened ?
- southernhawk

Murder/rape, suicide. The crime scene photos are out there if you're so inclined...I wouldn't recommend it though.

About F'ing time
- Ogilthorpe2

Yup...just read it on sportsoverdose.com

Murder/rape, suicide. The crime scene photos are out there if you're so inclined...I wouldn't recommend it though.
- Ogilthorpe2

There was a TV movie years ago...Her boy freind was a sick scum bag.

Her life ended very early and badly.
- Al

I realized that subsequently to a random pick. No disrespect intended.

Murder/rape, suicide. The crime scene photos are out there if you're so inclined...I wouldn't recommend it though.
- Ogilthorpe2

Ok...just wondering ....I don't need to see it.........I hope Bolly ends the 2C saga

There was a TV movie years ago...Her boy freind was a sick scum bag.
- Al

2 of them according to Wiki

Ok...just wondering ....I don't need to see it.........I hope Bolly ends the 2C saga
- southernhawk

Wish I hadn't. Didnt realize what I was opening when I clicked the link

I realized that subsequently to a random pick. No disrespect intended.
- TrueGrit

Should've gone with 1981, she's still alive, and even married an NHL Player

I realized that subsequently to a random pick. No disrespect intended.
- TrueGrit

Didn't think so...I commented cuz I recognized her name.

Kane ,Bolladd,Hossa. Frolik,Kruger,Shaw? !Bickell can hang out wit Monty.For all I care

Should've gone with 1981, she's still alive, and even married an NHL Player
- Ogilthorpe2

Jerry Korab tells a funny story about her and Charlie Simmer...

Korab lived next door and Terri Welles would sunbathe naked, Simmer had a tall fence surrounding his backyard...

Korab bought a trampoline and for a fee would let teamates jump up and down on it to take a look at Welles.

There was a TV movie years ago...Her boy freind was a sick scum bag.
- Al

Star 80 is the name of the movie...

Just had to look it up.

http://www.playboy.com/ga...tten-playmate-of-the-year
- NewToHockey

Star-80.

Don't tell Bogdanovich.

2 of them according to Wiki
- Ogilthorpe2

Yes - number 2 was the director Peter Bogdanovich - who left his wife for her - then married Stratton's younger sister.