I understand the importance and necessity of moving back into rebuild mode (trading Kessel etc)... but myself along with plenty of other Leaf fans will not be able to endure another 3-5 years of poopty play and no playoffs... part of me wishes they just get Luongo and make an exciting push for the playoffs this season... its just been toooo many years of garbage... give us some excitement for (frank)s sake
- We_Miss_Sundin

Yes, 'blue and white disease' is alive and well. You should get that looked at.

I understand the importance and necessity of moving back into rebuild mode (trading Kessel etc)... but myself along with plenty of other Leaf fans will not be able to endure another 3-5 years of poopty play and no playoffs... part of me wishes they just get Luongo and make an exciting push for the playoffs this season... its just been toooo many years of garbage... give us some excitement for (frank)s sake
- We_Miss_Sundin

What makes u think it wont be another 3-5yrs with Kessel??.....The leafs are a bottom of the league team and it's gonna stay the way for the next few yrs....

We have come to the point we want all to fail instead of hoping they do well, it is completely screwed up.

Let's play these guys and hope they fail, just not right , imo.
- LeafMan

Blame inept management for not doing right the first time. It has to be done eventually.

You think that by hoping this team does well and pushing for the playoffs will solve anything? It's just delaying the inevitable. If the Leafs extend Kessel, acquire Luongo, make the playoffs a few years, get their ass kicked where it matters most, where do the Leafs get ahead? In five years, everybody will be gone and what will have been accomplished? A few years worth of illusions isn't worth it.

It sucks that the best way to get better is to get worse but that's the way the system is. Until that's drastically changed, it is what it is. A necessary evil.

What makes u think it wont be another 3-5yrs with Kessel??.....The leafs are a bottom of the league team and it's gonna stay the way for the next few yrs....
- Fruitcakenipple

Amen. You can't put a bandaid (Luongo) on a sucking chest wound.

Man this drama is sickening.

Just make the bloody deal Nonis. You know it's gonna happen.

They're probably just arguing over a 8th round pick at this point

Amen. You can't put a bandaid (Luongo) on a sucking chest wound.
- triggermartin

Is that where we get "Leafs Suck" from?

What makes u think it wont be another 3-5yrs with Kessel??.....The leafs are a bottom of the league team and it's gonna stay the way for the next few yrs....
- Fruitcakenipple

Seeing how a guy like Anderson turned Ottawa around I wouldn't be surprised if a goaltender who stops pucks would turn this team around

I understand the importance and necessity of moving back into rebuild mode (trading Kessel etc)... but myself along with plenty of other Leaf fans will not be able to endure another 3-5 years of poopty play and no playoffs... part of me wishes they just get Luongo and make an exciting push for the playoffs this season... its just been toooo many years of garbage... give us some excitement for (frank)s sake
- We_Miss_Sundin

That's such a load of crap. Do you have any idea how many people said "we can't handle waiting another four years" when Burke took over as GM? Guess where we are now? Four years later with the same people saying "we can't wait another four years". It's bullcrap. In Toronto, people have waited 45 years. What's another 4 or 5 if things are done right? I would much rather wait another four years and see the streak snapped at 49 years rather than hit 50 years and still be waiting around for a GM to rebuild the team the right way.

Seeing how a guy like Anderson turned Ottawa around I wouldn't be surprised if a goaltender who stops pucks would turn this team around
- AngryWhiteMale

And what did Ottawa win exactly?

What makes u think it wont be another 3-5yrs with Kessel??.....The leafs are a bottom of the league team and it's gonna stay the way for the next few yrs....
- Fruitcakenipple

Not when they get Lu and Perry/Getzlaf

That's such a load of crap. Do you have any idea how many people said "we can't handle waiting another four years" when Burke took over as GM? Guess where we are now? Four years later with the same people saying "we can't wait another four years". It's bullcrap. In Toronto, people have waited 45 years. What's another 4 or 5 if things are done right? I would much rather wait another four years and see the streak snapped at 49 years rather than hit 50 years and still be waiting around for a GM to rebuild the team the right way.
- Two_For_Truth

Different name
Different time
But still with the same message

Yawn

And what did Ottawa win exactly?
- Two_For_Truth

A playoff birth to start

Amen. You can't put a bandaid (Luongo) on a sucking chest wound.
- triggermartin

There seems to be a illusion that the leafs are close to taking the next step towards being a playoff team..

And what did Ottawa win exactly?
- Two_For_Truth

they, like us, were projected to be a bottom of the barrel team.

They had much of the offence that we had, yet they made it(playoffs) and we didn't because they were secure in the most important position in the game

Not when they get Lu and Perry/Getzlaf
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Oh...I forgot about that...

Different name
Different time
But still with the same message

Yawn
- Rang

Yawn....That all u have to offer...

That's such a load of crap. Do you have any idea how many people said "we can't handle waiting another four years" when Burke took over as GM? Guess where we are now? Four years later with the same people saying "we can't wait another four years". It's bullcrap. In Toronto, people have waited 45 years. What's another 4 or 5 if things are done right? I would much rather wait another four years and see the streak snapped at 49 years rather than hit 50 years and still be waiting around for a GM to rebuild the team the right way.
- Two_For_Truth

lol,

yeah, you're right on that

No, we need a scorer who scores in the clutch and is a leader on the ice. We don't need a streaky player that fills the net against the Islanders and Columbus, but isn't anywhere to be found against the Sabres, Habs, and Bruins.
- PrinceLH

I have to go but I will dig up his point & goal total breakdown which I saw the other day, it will surprise you that the vast majority of his output was against playoff teams so that blows your whole argument out of the water but haters will hate, can't change your minds.

Different name
Different time
But still with the same message

Yawn
- Rang

The Leafs have a different GM and owner.

It's four years later.

It's the same message of making 8th place and being mediocre.

Yawn your brains out.

A playoff birth to start
- Yeti1181

Which means squat.

Oh...I forgot about that...
- Fruitcakenipple

No worries.. im here to remind you

they, like us, were projected to be a bottom of the barrel team.

They had much of the offence that we had, yet they made it(playoffs) and we didn't because they were secure in the most important position in the game
- AngryWhiteMale

And they, unlike the Leafs, have Spezza and Karlsson.

Which means squat.
- Two_For_Truth

Sure a lot of people would have said that about 8th seed LA in April

Which means squat.
- Two_For_Truth

No it means your team is improving. The playoffs are a whole different season, get in and you can win. But i don't see the Leafs as a team that will succeed in the postseason yet,, or even close

Sure a lot of people would have said that about 8th seed LA in April
- AngryWhiteMale

Doughty, Kopitar, Carter, Richards and Quick.

Give me a call when the Leafs have equivalents to that core of players and then we can talk about winning a Cup from 8th seed, something that's been done once in the history of the playoffs, by the way.