You two at it again?

What happens, happens....lol
- LeafMan

Technically, you are comparing Eklund to SportsNet
- PatC80

Just because somebody says they have a source, doesn't mean they're anywhere near the truth. Fact is, far more credible people have discussed this topic and the conclusion was clear; Burke got fired because the new owners didn't like his style, not because of Luongo.

Doug Favell
- faceto27

Not going to lie to you: all the other kids in my class drew Doug Favell pictures, but I prefered Dunc Wilson.

Good to know you will ignore everything Dreger and McKenzie said to blindly believe a second rate writer with little to zero insider credibility.
- Two_For_Truth

How am I ignoring them? What I'm saying is that I believe they agreed that Gardiner/Rielly was too high a price, but differed in opinion when it came to Kadri/picks.

I also agree that Burke would've brought Luongo to Toronto for the 'right price'.

So keep spinning your wheels there skippy....we'll talk next week.

Agreed. I think Kessel is very misunderstood. He's just a quiet, shy kid.

Some have accused him of so things that aren't even true or that aren't his fault:

- he has no heart
- he isn't a franchise player

All of it is bullpoop if you ask me. Kessel would re-sign in Toronto given the right price.
- Pen15

Please help me understand how and when Philip has played this game with heart and passion? Grabovski plays the game with heart and passion - do you remember him getting stapled by Chara, then coming back in OT and playing like a one man wrecking crew until he scored the winner? Have you ever seen Phil do anything remotely like that? Does Philip elevate his game when he plays his old team? Please enlighten me, sir.

The height of hubris

Not going to lie to you: all the other kids in my class drew Doug Favell pictures, but I prefered Dunc Wilson.
- Atomic Wedgie

What about Jiri Cira?

Just because somebody says they have a source, doesn't mean they're anywhere near the truth. Fact is, far more credibly people have discussed this topic and the conclusion was clear; Burke got fired because the new owners didn't like his style, not because of Luongo.
- Two_For_Truth

So what do you say if and when Luongo is a Leaf, and Kadri is a Canuck?

Not going to lie to you: all the other kids in my class drew Doug Favell pictures, but I prefered Dunc Wilson.
- Atomic Wedgie

My fav from that era was the Tiger

What about Jiri Cira?
- LeafMan

Peter Ing

The height of hubris
- AdamFrench

You referring to me as arrogant?

So what do you say if and when Luongo is a Leaf, and Kadri is a Canuck?
- Pen15

I say "daaaaaaaaaaaaamn, booooooooooooooy"

Hey losers. Quit arguing. Im right. You're all wrong.


Sup?

So what do you say if and when Luongo is a Leaf, and Kadri is a Canuck?
- Pen15

is anyone sure that Kadri is going to be a top 6 forward...

Please help me understand how and when Philip has played this game with heart and passion? Grabovski plays the game with heart and passion - do you remember him getting stapled by Chara, then coming back in OT and playing like a one man wrecking crew until he scored the winner? Have you ever seen Phil do anything remotely like that? Does Philip elevate his game when he plays his old team? Please enlighten me, sir.
- 1979AD

Phil can net 40 goals. Shut up and be happy we have a 40 scorer. He has heart, he's a good guy and you're just being a cynical d!ck.

is anyone sure that Kadri is going to be a top 6 forward...
- wingz4life

Hung jury

How am I ignoring them?
- Pen15

You're completely ignoring them. They clearly said that both Burke and Nonis thought the price was too high. Both of them. Together. Burke was going after Luongo anyway. That's not why he got fired.

And I quote:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=12395

Just got inundated with this one...

Nashville would send 2 #1's, Dumont, Zidlicky and Suter (possibly Weber depending on who you talk to ) to Washington for Ovechkin and Kolzig?

I can tell you this much. There are some legs to this rumour. It could turn out to be enormous. The players vary depending on the source, but the bottom line is Ovechkin and Kolzig to the Preds...

So it's Spector, with as much insider credibility as Eklund or it's Bob McKenzie and Darren Dreger.

Hope you learned something today.
- Two_For_Truth

Hate to break it to you ladies, but very few people know the actual reasons and circumstances around this strangely timed firing, and neither of you are one of them. You both have nothing but speculation, so please stop arguing over who's speculations are less speculative.

You referring to me as arrogant?
- LeafMan

jordan blod

is anyone sure that Kadri is going to be a top 6 forward...
- wingz4life

I think we can refer to him now as the "Enigma"

what about pogge, didnt they think he was going to be the future and moved rask over him..
- wingz4life

I can't tell you how many times I've explained this over the years. OK, here goes:

2004 draft: Leafs take Pogge in the 3rd round. Don't expect much.

2005 draft: Leafs take Rask in the 1st round. Optimism abounds.

2005-06: Pogge plays out of this world. Wins WJC gold. Wins CHL goalie of the year. Wins WHL MVP. Signs 3 year contract with the Leafs.

Oh, and Globe and Mail writes an article about him that I will post below - but I'm warning you, it will make you cry. It still makes me cry.

In short, everyone is in love with Pogge.

Rask sees this. Realizes he will be playing behind Pogge. Doesn't like sitation. But as per the CBA, Rask can simply not sign for two years, and go back into the draft.

Faced with that, it is inevitable. He isn't going to sign with Toronto.

Don't female dog at JFJ for trading Rask.

Just female dog at him for getting nothing in return.

You're completely ignoring them. They clearly said that both Burke and Nonis thought the price was too high. Both of them. Together. Burke was going after Luongo anyway. That's not why he got fired.
- Two_For_Truth

Dougie!!!!!!!

Killer!!!!!!!!!!!

So what do you say if and when Luongo is a Leaf, and Kadri is a Canuck?
- Pen15

That's it's a stupid trade that probably would have happened anyway eventually.

Phil can net 40 goals. Shut up and be happy we have a 40 scorer. He has heart, he's a good guy and you're just being a cynical d!ck.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Rick Vaive could score 50. Didn't help the Leafs win a Cup though.

is anyone sure that Kadri is going to be a top 6 forward...
- wingz4life

Kadri would be top line center on Detroit

Im (frank)ing serious punk