Yeah next year looks like a good draft.
- RENATO6

2014?

you kept stating that his value to the team need be reflected in his contract amount. I was simply pointing out that the art work on the titanic is still on the titanic.
- muffin_man

That's a great line.

true but if u are last only 25% not 48% like previous for 1st overall.
- Feeling_Glucky

I thought the odds are the same but anyone can get the 1st now?

So work it out...

Pacs got 4.5.. Gorges is 3.9, Markov 5.75, Pleks 5... He should be in the Pacs Gorges area..
- RENATO6

4 would probably satisfy everyone, just not his Agent...which seems to be the main issue here, the guy (Subban) just clearly wants to play, but when you're 23 and thats all you wanna have to think about is playing it makes it easier for the agent to run around trying to force max money for your contract...and for him of course

2014?
- Feeling_Glucky

Sorry, habit because I still haven't seen hockey this year.. 2013 draft

will be 2 yrs 8 minimum.
- Feeling_Glucky

probably, just my opinion of what his transition deal SHOULD be

3yrs/ 11.5 Million

I thought the odds are the same but anyone can get the 1st now?
- habby

how could both be true?

I m getting bored...

my guess >? around 4,75 for 3 years ( overpayment)
- WaterBoy

dont lie you're not bored you're just tired of trying to read the english language (unsuccessfully), i'm offering lessons anytime you want

(waits for inevitable pointing out of grammatical errors in my posts)

4 would probably satisfy everyone, just not his Agent...which seems to be the main issue here, the guy (Subban) just clearly wants to play, but when you're 23 and thats all you wanna have to think about is playing it makes it easier for the agent to run around trying to force max money for your contract...and for him of course
- Habitants98

Oh (frank) off. Del Zotto has the same agent. That's just bullpoop.

i say they're gonna give him 4.5-5 though

i'm really not sure at this point i'd love it if he were reasonable enough to accept 3-4 years it'd be less headache for everyone involved i'm sure he'll get paid big eventually either way so i dunno i just know right now considering all circumstances he's got a slight advantage in leverage than most with his negotiation since the Habs dont have anyone to take up what he brings to the team and the young'ns arent ready in Hamilton (and damn has that ever been made clear this year...yikes)
- Habitants98

Well anything over 3m is an overpayment imo.

And he'll get it.

I'm expecting 2-3 years at 3-3.5 or 5-6 at 5-5.5

Oh (frank) off. Del Zotto has the same agent. That's just bullpoop.
- _nay_

well then it must mean his agent doesnt see MDZ at the same value to his team lol which makes it even funnier that all this arguing is going on...or its a matter of years not money, i mean if you think agents have the same approach with all their clients without considering the individual circumstances....well....

but hey _nay_ in your day this 'boy' wouldnt even be allowed to have a contract right

how could both be true?
- muffin_man

In the past, even if you got the #1 pick you couldn't move up more than 4 spots. From what I understood all they've changed is that now you can go all the way to 1.

I think PK is getting traded if they're really as far apart as they say.

how could both be true?
- muffin_man

I am trying to figure out if that's possible.

Well anything over 3m is an overpayment imo.

And he'll get it.
- pete26

Agreed, but with his potential he will be pushed to the 4 - 4.5 range.

In the past, even if you got the #1 pick you couldn't move up more than 4 spots. From what I understood all they've changed is that now you can go all the way to 1.

I think PK is getting traded if they're really as far apart as they say.
- habby

s u had 0% at #1 then since u could not move up to 1.

As of 2008, with 30 NBA teams, 16 qualify for the playoffs and the remaining 14 teams are entered in the draft lottery. These 14 teams are ranked in reverse order of their regular season record and are assigned the following number of chances

250 combinations, 25.0% chance of receiving the #1 pick
199 combinations, 19.9% chance
156 combinations, 15.6% chance
119 combinations, 11.9% chance
88 combinations, 8.8% chance
63 combinations, 6.3% chance
43 combinations, 4.3% chance
28 combinations, 2.8% chance
17 combinations, 1.7% chance
11 combinations, 1.1% chance
8 combinations, 0.8% chance
7 combinations, 0.7% chance
6 combinations, 0.6% chance
5 combinations, 0.5% chance


NBA model

Agreed, but with his potential he will be pushed to the 4 - 4.5 range.
- RENATO6

Push it. Push it real good.

i say they're gonna give him 4.5-5 though
- Habitants98

yea likely.

I'm expecting 2-3 years at 3-3.5 or 5-6 at 5-5.5
- _nay_

3-4 and yea.

I am trying to figure out if that's possible.
- Feeling_Glucky

It's the same weighing system, but an elimination of the moving up 4 spots rule....

Push it. Push it real good.
- weirdoh

I used to have some pretty good moves to that tune.

Agreed, but with his potential he will be pushed to the 4 - 4.5 range.
- RENATO6

John Carlson just signed for 3.9 per, he's probably the best comp for PK. PK would get a little more because of QC taxes.

It's the same weighing system, but an elimination of the moving up 4 spots rule....
- golfingsince

ok so 14th has a chance at 1st not 0 but a little higher. Maybe same chance at winning lottery but now better chance to get #1.