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fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jan 10 @ 1:33 PM ET
I bet you would. Not happening. Move on.
- As_I_See_It


Already have. Luongo to Philly for Couts. Book it.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 10 @ 1:34 PM ET
Luongo for Hartnell ,the third Sedin
BoBBeR56
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Leaf Nation, ON
Joined: 06.30.2010

Jan 10 @ 1:34 PM ET
No he's not
- VANTEL

I'm sorry, I went a little overboard...no one is as bad as that homer Cloutier.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 10 @ 1:35 PM ET
According to me...just because a GM is demanding certain things for a player, after a long while (and the GM realizes who foolish his demands are) his price lowers to something more reasonable.
Gillis has no legs to stand on demanding multiple young players...for a 34yr old goalie with 10yr $5.3mil contract with diminishing skills, who is currently a backup goalie and wants out, with next to no suitors for him...but you guys are right, Gillis holds all the cards,

- BoBBeR56



He's held all teh cards since the day after the Canucks were eliminated last year. It's a pretty complicated juggling act to keep 29 GMs on the phone while constantly upping the asking price.

He clearly could have traded Lou at any time he wanted since then.
BoBBeR56
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Leaf Nation, ON
Joined: 06.30.2010

Jan 10 @ 1:35 PM ET
so Grabo, Bozak, Rielly and a 1st then?
- IanEsplen

Close...Mac, Bozak, Komi, 3rd...
Plus last I checked, Luongo isn't 28 anymore.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 10 @ 1:36 PM ET
I'm sorry, I went a little overboard...no one is as bad as that homer Cloutier.
- BoBBeR56

Appology accepted . We put Ians blogs right up there with Hemmingway
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 10 @ 1:37 PM ET
Appology accepted . We put Ians blogs right up there with Hemmingway
- VANTEL



I thought it was Scooby on suicide watch
ALeafsFan4Ever
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 10.11.2011

Jan 10 @ 1:37 PM ET
Oh very nice,leave it to a Van fan to be completely out of touch with reality..

1) Not a chance in hell Gard/Reilly is gona be included in any deal for Lou..Why all the sudden since Burkie was let go do you scabs in Van seem to think your gona take the leafs to the cleaners for a overpriced over contracted goalie that we really wont need for another 2-3 yrs away?Oh wait you guys have thought all along you were gona rape the leafs for him LMAO..Wont happen

2) To even suggest the Van will wait till end of the season and then buy him out is ever more retarded thinking.Why would they pay him to go away when they could get at least a bag of pucks for him and saving over 30 mill to buy him out.

You Van fans make me howl.You slam burke and yet if it wasnt for him you wouldnt be in the postion your team is in now.How soon we forget the good things he has done..Your team must think everyone is as dumb as wood,so dumb your gm actually thought that by spreading bogus rumors like Philly wanting LOu is gona get you more outa the leafs or panthers for him.HAHAHA dumbass Van fans
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jan 10 @ 1:38 PM ET
According to me...just because a GM is demanding certain things for a player, after a long while (and the GM realizes who foolish his demands are) his price lowers to something more reasonable.
Gillis has no legs to stand on demanding multiple young players...for a 34yr old goalie with 10yr $5.3mil contract with diminishing skills, who is currently a backup goalie and wants out, with next to no suitors for him...but you guys are right, Gillis holds all the cards,

- BoBBeR56


Nash held all the cards in CBJ with his NTC. I beleive when that was all going down he gave the BJ's a specific list of teams he would go to. You don't think that made Howsons job more difficult.

I can't argue the contract, but if you really consider Luongo an NHL back up then I really overestimated you hockey knowledge. And as far a suitors go, there have been dozens of reports of "more then one team" in on Luongo. Maybe you can give me an exact number of how many "suitors" Luongo has. You seem to know.
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 10 @ 1:38 PM ET
That's exactly what I'm saying...if Luongo was 28...
- BoBBeR56


Orrrrr...

Van didn't have $10M tied up in goalies...

Orrrrr...

Van didn't have the cap issues that they'll be heading into the summer with guys like Edler still needing to resigned...

Orrrrr...

The limited market for Luongo vs. the bidding war for Nash...

Orrrrr...

A potential goalie controversy brewing in Van. What happens if Luongo stays in Van and he outplays Schneider?...

Orrrrr...

Maybe that Gillis recognizes that Van's time to win is NOW, otherwise their window could be closing...

Orrrrr...

The fact that the Sedin's are a year older...

Orrrrr...

Van didn't realize that they'd have a huge hole at 2C with Kesler down until...

The Luongo vs. Nash and Van vs. Clb situations are polar opposites. The ONLY thing that's similar is that Luongo and Nash are "big names," nothing more.

rune_74
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 01.14.2007

Jan 10 @ 1:38 PM ET
I'm quite happy to wait for the right deal, it's not like our team just fired their GM and has fans in delusion that they are in great shape.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 10 @ 1:38 PM ET
I thought it was Scooby on suicide watch
- Canada Cup



I would put Scooby up against and Hockey Insider. He has a barber. If he says Gardiner Lupul and a 1 st for Lu and Raymond then you can take that to the bank.
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Jan 10 @ 1:40 PM ET
Reports from Canuck camp that D.Sedin wants to play on Lapierres line this year. He wants someone that has his back if things get tough.
- VANTEL

Enter: Tim Connolly
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jan 10 @ 1:41 PM ET
Oh very nice,leave it to a Van fan to be completely out of touch with reality..

1) Not a chance in hell Gard/Reilly is gona be included in any deal for Lou..Why all the sudden since Burkie was let go do you scabs in Van seem to think your gona take the leafs to the cleaners for a overpriced over contracted goalie that we really wont need for another 2-3 yrs away?Oh wait you guys have thought all along you were gona rape the leafs for him LMAO..Wont happen

2) To even suggest the Van will wait till end of the season and then buy him out is ever more retarded thinking.Why would they pay him to go away when they could get at least a bag of pucks for him and saving over 30 mill to buy him out.

You Van fans make me howl.You slam burke and yet if it wasnt for him you wouldnt be in the postion your team is in now.How soon we forget the good things he has done..Your team must think everyone is as dumb as wood,so dumb your gm actually thought that by spreading bogus rumors like Philly wanting LOu is gona get you more outa the leafs or panthers for him.HAHAHA dumbass Van fans

- ALeafsFan4Ever


So in your expert opinion, where does Luongo get traded and for who?
rune_74
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 01.14.2007

Jan 10 @ 1:42 PM ET
Oh very nice,leave it to a Van fan to be completely out of touch with reality..

1) Not a chance in hell Gard/Reilly is gona be included in any deal for Lou..Why all the sudden since Burkie was let go do you scabs in Van seem to think your gona take the leafs to the cleaners for a overpriced over contracted goalie that we really wont need for another 2-3 yrs away?Oh wait you guys have thought all along you were gona rape the leafs for him LMAO..Wont happen

2) To even suggest the Van will wait till end of the season and then buy him out is ever more retarded thinking.Why would they pay him to go away when they could get at least a bag of pucks for him and saving over 30 mill to buy him out.

You Van fans make me howl.You slam burke and yet if it wasnt for him you wouldnt be in the postion your team is in now.How soon we forget the good things he has done..Your team must think everyone is as dumb as wood,so dumb your gm actually thought that by spreading bogus rumors like Philly wanting LOu is gona get you more outa the leafs or panthers for him.HAHAHA dumbass Van fans

- ALeafsFan4Ever



Your team just fired their GM, yep we are the dumb ones
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 10 @ 1:43 PM ET
Orrrrr...

Van didn't have $10M tied up in goalies...

Orrrrr...

Van didn't have the cap issues that they'll be heading into the summer with guys like Edler still needing to resigned...

Orrrrr...

The limited market for Luongo vs. the bidding war for Nash...

Orrrrr...

A potential goalie controversy brewing in Van. What happens if Luongo stays in Van and he outplays Schneider?...

Orrrrr...

Maybe that Gillis recognizes that Van's time to win is NOW, otherwise their window could be closing...

Orrrrr...

The fact that the Sedin's are a year older...

Orrrrr...

Van didn't realize that they'd have a huge hole at 2C with Kesler down until...

The Luongo vs. Nash and Van vs. Clb situations are polar opposites. The ONLY thing that's similar is that Luongo and Nash are "big names," nothing more.

- As_I_See_It



But Gillis has hand. Hand is tough to get.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 10 @ 1:43 PM ET
But Gillis has hand. Hand is tough to get.
- Canada Cup



I still think Burke holds all the cards.
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 10 @ 1:43 PM ET
Vilole Lolieno.
- systemtool



Ville Lamo!
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Jan 10 @ 1:44 PM ET
Oh very nice,leave it to a Van fan to be completely out of touch with reality..

1) Not a chance in hell Gard/Reilly is gona be included in any deal for Lou..Why all the sudden since Burkie was let go do you scabs in Van seem to think your gona take the leafs to the cleaners for a overpriced over contracted goalie that we really wont need for another 2-3 yrs away?Oh wait you guys have thought all along you were gona rape the leafs for him LMAO..Wont happen

2) To even suggest the Van will wait till end of the season and then buy him out is ever more retarded thinking.Why would they pay him to go away when they could get at least a bag of pucks for him and saving over 30 mill to buy him out.

You Van fans make me howl.You slam burke and yet if it wasnt for him you wouldnt be in the postion your team is in now.How soon we forget the good things he has done..Your team must think everyone is as dumb as wood,so dumb your gm actually thought that by spreading bogus rumors like Philly wanting LOu is gona get you more outa the leafs or panthers for him.HAHAHA dumbass Van fans

- ALeafsFan4Ever


Hypocrite
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 10 @ 1:44 PM ET
Already have. Luongo to Philly for Couts. Book it.
- fiveandagame


Nope!

Is Luongo better than Bryzzy? That's debatable. HOWEVER, even if Lu is better than Bryzzy, the difference DEFINITELY not worth Couturier.

Furthermore, Bryzzy is also 2 years younger than Lu and with a shorter contract and similar cap hit (+$300k for Bryzzy)

Dream on.
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 10 @ 1:44 PM ET
Orrrrr...

Van didn't have $10M tied up in goalies...

Orrrrr...

Van didn't have the cap issues that they'll be heading into the summer with guys like Edler still needing to resigned...

Orrrrr...

The limited market for Luongo vs. the bidding war for Nash...

Orrrrr...

A potential goalie controversy brewing in Van. What happens if Luongo stays in Van and he outplays Schneider?...

Orrrrr...

Maybe that Gillis recognizes that Van's time to win is NOW, otherwise their window could be closing...

Orrrrr...

The fact that the Sedin's are a year older...

Orrrrr...

Van didn't realize that they'd have a huge hole at 2C with Kesler down until...

The Luongo vs. Nash and Van vs. Clb situations are polar opposites. The ONLY thing that's similar is that Luongo and Nash are "big names," nothing more.

- As_I_See_It


What does Colton Orr have to do with all of this?
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Jan 10 @ 1:44 PM ET
Orrrrr...

Van didn't have $10M tied up in goalies...

Orrrrr...

Van didn't have the cap issues that they'll be heading into the summer with guys like Edler still needing to resigned...

Orrrrr...

The limited market for Luongo vs. the bidding war for Nash...

Orrrrr...

A potential goalie controversy brewing in Van. What happens if Luongo stays in Van and he outplays Schneider?...

Orrrrr...

Maybe that Gillis recognizes that Van's time to win is NOW, otherwise their window could be closing...

Orrrrr...

The fact that the Sedin's are a year older...

Orrrrr...

Van didn't realize that they'd have a huge hole at 2C with Kesler down until...

The Luongo vs. Nash and Van vs. Clb situations are polar opposites. The ONLY thing that's similar is that Luongo and Nash are "big names," nothing more.

- As_I_See_It


Didn't you hear, "Have no fear, Ebbett is here!"

Worst case, the Canucks pull Cliff Ronning out of retirement for a few weeks to hold the fort down.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jan 10 @ 1:45 PM ET
Orrrrr...

Van didn't have $10M tied up in goalies...

Orrrrr...

Van didn't have the cap issues that they'll be heading into the summer with guys like Edler still needing to resigned...

Orrrrr...

The limited market for Luongo vs. the bidding war for Nash...

Orrrrr...

A potential goalie controversy brewing in Van. What happens if Luongo stays in Van and he outplays Schneider?...

Orrrrr...

Maybe that Gillis recognizes that Van's time to win is NOW, otherwise their window could be closing...

Orrrrr...

The fact that the Sedin's are a year older...

Orrrrr...

Van didn't realize that they'd have a huge hole at 2C with Kesler down until...

The Luongo vs. Nash and Van vs. Clb situations are polar opposites. The ONLY thing that's similar is that Luongo and Nash are "big names," nothing more.

- As_I_See_It


You are forgeting the value that Luongo or a Nash brings to the team he is traded to. That is how a price is established. What is a team willing to pay for Luongo servies? How desperate is the GM to shore up his goaltending position? Thoes will deterime what Luongo ends up getting traded for. Not Keslers health or the Sedins age.
rune_74
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 01.14.2007

Jan 10 @ 1:46 PM ET
Nope!

Is Luongo better than Bryzzy? That's debatable. HOWEVER, even if Lu is better than Bryzzy, the difference DEFINITELY not worth Couturier.

Furthermore, Bryzzy is also 2 years younger than Lu and with a shorter contract and similar cap hit (+$300k for Bryzzy)

Dream on.

- As_I_See_It



Well if you go by stats then yes, Loungo is better then Bryzzy...but we know you don't use those.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 10 @ 1:46 PM ET
Nope!

Is Luongo better than Bryzzy? That's debatable. HOWEVER, even if Lu is better than Bryzzy, the difference DEFINITELY not worth Couturier.

Furthermore, Bryzzy is also 2 years younger than Lu and with a shorter contract and similar cap hit (+$300k for Bryzzy)

Dream on.

- As_I_See_It

For the fact that you are talking about that Russian nut job in the same breath as Luongo is laughable . Please leave your Hockey Buzz membership badge at the door.
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