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Rally_Shots
Joined: 07.24.2008

Jan 10 @ 11:45 AM ET
Somehow I think he will have a decent return before years end.
- VANTEL


Who is going to want that horrible contract for an aging goalie who is now known to choke when the pressure is on? I cant see him moving without Vancouver eating at least 1/3 of the contract in the trade and getting scraps in return.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 10 @ 11:45 AM ET
Ferraro says it is Sean Couturier's coming back in a Lu trade
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 10 @ 11:47 AM ET
Who is going to want that horrible contract for an aging goalie who is now known to choke when the pressure is on? I cant see him moving without Vancouver eating at least 1/3 of the contract in the trade and getting scraps in return.
- Rally_Shots


Miller?
SameOld
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.25.2010

Jan 10 @ 11:47 AM ET
I understand this. Personally, I dont think the Canucks are going to trade Luongo. He's still a number one in this league. As much as we'd like Schneider to take over now, contractually it doesn't make sense. I'd be shopping Schneider right now. He could bring back something useful for our team.

Question though... how do salary buyouts work in the new CBA? If they are the same as previously, would the team be able to pre-empt the Luongo rule in the CBA by buying him out before he retires? The cap penalty would last for more seaons, but it would be a much smaller percentage I think.

- nucks_94


You might be as dumb as Esplen if you think Schnieder signed without a guarantee he is the starting goalie. They're not going to pay Lu 5.4 to be a backup.
nucks_94
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.05.2008

Jan 10 @ 11:48 AM ET
You might be as dumb as Esplen if you think Schnieder signed without a guarantee he is the starting goalie. They're not going to pay Lu 5.4 to be a backup.
- SameOld

Guarantees. That's cute.
SameOld
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.25.2010

Jan 10 @ 11:48 AM ET
Ferraro says it is Sean Couturier's coming back in a Lu trade
- VANTEL


Hahaha
jimi james
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere Between, NB
Joined: 07.17.2010

Jan 10 @ 11:49 AM ET
I'm thinking Gillis gets Rielly or Gardiner in the deal.

I can't see the Leafs moving Gardiner if the plan is to make the playoffs this year. they need him.

Rielly is a couple years out of making an impact. I could see him being moved and Gillis is pretty stuck on getting a 1st rd pick in the deal.

Pick your poison, Rielly or Gardiner

- IanEsplen

I'll have whatever it is you're NOT having
Rally_Shots
Joined: 07.24.2008

Jan 10 @ 11:51 AM ET
Miller?
- VANTEL


Nah, his contract is up after next season.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 10 @ 11:53 AM ET
Nah, his contract is up after next season.
- Rally_Shots



Ok I thought you meant Miller , when you said aging goalie that always chokes. I guess 2 more years of bad goaltending isn't bad
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 10 @ 11:53 AM ET
I'm thinking Gillis gets Rielly or Gardiner in the deal.

I can't see the Leafs moving Gardiner if the plan is to make the playoffs this year. they need him.

Rielly is a couple years out of making an impact. I could see him being moved and Gillis is pretty stuck on getting a 1st rd pick in the deal.

Pick your poison, Rielly or Gardiner

- IanEsplen


This deal seems imminent. Not crazy about it, but I'll play along.

As VANTEL mentioned above. If the playoffs are the Leafs' objective, including Gardiner makes 0 sense.

As for Rielly, the kid is arguably the best D prospect out there at the moment. Highly doubtful he's moved.

In light of the events of the past 24 hours, nothing has changed in terms of Luongo's contract, Vancouver's cap space, the potential "goalie controversy" brewing and holes up front, in particular 2C/3C (with Kesler's annual surgery/injury)

That said, I could see a C + W or D + conditional pick going to Vancouver.
C - I could see Connolly, but Bozak seems more likely
W - Can't say I'd be surprised if Ashton was included
D - All signs point to Franson, a good ol' BC going home. Would make a great 4-6 (especially if Edler might be moving on) and #2 PP D
Pick - A 3rd to start or a 2nd if the Leafs make the playoffs

Offer:
Bozak + Ashton OR Frason + 2013 3rd (2nd if Leafs make playoffs)

for

Luongo + (Maybe take Raymond)

I think BOTH teams could live with this deal.
Zombie27
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 01.19.2009

Jan 10 @ 11:54 AM ET
Best bet: See how our goalies play behind an actually defensive system.

Again, you put Brodeur or Lundqvist behind Wilson's Leafs, and they'd struggle.

See if Reimer is healthy. See what Scrivens/Rynnas can do behind a defensive system.

- Feeling Glucky?


And a new goalie coach...

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 10 @ 11:55 AM ET
Ian Esplen: An ode to Burkie & Connolly?
An ode to Burkie & Connolly?

- IanEsplen

It's hard to figure out what is crazier: you suggesting the Leafs would be willing to include Rielly, or you suggesting the Canucks would want Connolly.
Zombie27
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 01.19.2009

Jan 10 @ 11:55 AM ET
Ferraro says it is Sean Couturier's coming back in a Lu trade
- VANTEL


If Philly is looking into a goalie, you know its a bad idea...I hope the Leafs are out on Luongo!
Scruffton
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: London, ON
Joined: 07.02.2010

Jan 10 @ 11:56 AM ET
This deal seems imminent. Not crazy about it, but I'll play along.

As VANTEL mentioned above. If the playoffs are the Leafs' objective, including Gardiner makes 0 sense.

As for Rielly, the kid is arguably the best D prospect out there at the moment. Highly doubtful he's moved.

In light of the events of the past 24 hours, nothing has changed in terms of Luongo's contract, Vancouver's cap space, the potential "goalie controversy" brewing and holes up front, in particular 2C/3C (with Kesler's annual surgery/injury)

That said, I could see a C + W or D + conditional pick going to Vancouver.
C - I could see Connolly, but Bozak seems more likely
W - Can't say I'd be surprised if Ashton was included
D - All signs point to Franson, a good ol' BC going home. Would make a great 4-6 (especially if Edler might be moving on) and #2 PP D
Pick - A 3rd to start or a 2nd if the Leafs make the playoffs

Offer:
Bozak + Ashton OR Frason + 2013 3rd (2nd if Leafs make playoffs)

for

Luongo + (Maybe take Raymond)

I think BOTH teams could live with this deal.

- As_I_See_It

If the asking price is seriously Gardiner or Rielly you have to think the leafs would just trade one of them to someone else for a younger goalie anyways.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 10 @ 11:56 AM ET
This deal seems imminent. Not crazy about it, but I'll play along.

As VANTEL mentioned above. If the playoffs are the Leafs' objective, including Gardiner makes 0 sense.

As for Rielly, the kid is arguably the best D prospect out there at the moment. Highly doubtful he's moved.

In light of the events of the past 24 hours, nothing has changed in terms of Luongo's contract, Vancouver's cap space, the potential "goalie controversy" brewing and holes up front, in particular 2C/3C (with Kesler's annual surgery/injury)

That said, I could see a C + W or D + conditional pick going to Vancouver.
C - I could see Connolly, but Bozak seems more likely
W - Can't say I'd be surprised if Ashton was included
D - All signs point to Franson, a good ol' BC going home. Would make a great 4-6 (especially if Edler might be moving on) and #2 PP D
Pick - A 3rd to start or a 2nd if the Leafs make the playoffs

Offer:
Bozak + Ashton OR Frason + 2013 3rd (2nd if Leafs make playoffs)

for

Luongo + (Maybe take Raymond)

I think BOTH teams could live with this deal.

- As_I_See_It

Bozak and Ashton and Franson and a 2nd.

Because I wouldn't miss any of them.

I sincerely doubt that's enough, though.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 10 @ 11:56 AM ET
It's hard to figure out what is crazier: you suggesting the Leafs would be willing to include Rielly, or you suggesting the Canucks would want Connolly.
- Atomic Wedgie


Did you lose a beer, or was the bet about the season starting on time?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 10 @ 11:57 AM ET
If Philly is looking into a goalie, you know its a bad idea...I hope the Leafs are out on Luongo!
- Zombie27


Noted
Zombie27
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 01.19.2009

Jan 10 @ 11:57 AM ET
Interesting article on Redden. Kind of sad if they have to sit him all year to make sure he doesnt get injured.
- Rally_Shots


Yeah, hopefully we don't see this kind of thing in the future.
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Jan 10 @ 11:58 AM ET
Luongo, Kessler and both Sedins for Kadri.

Sincerely, Brian Burke.


(too soon ?)
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 10 @ 11:58 AM ET
Taj‏@taj1944

Botch on Lui to TO: There's a framework for a deal there that the Canucks like



Bet it is not Connolly
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 10 @ 11:58 AM ET
Bozak and Ashton and Franson and a 2nd.

Because I wouldn't miss any of them.

I sincerely doubt that's enough, though.

- Atomic Wedgie


You forgot Optimus Reim
Zombie27
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 01.19.2009

Jan 10 @ 11:59 AM ET
If the asking price is seriously Gardiner or Rielly you have to think the leafs would just trade one of them to someone else for a younger goalie anyways.
- Scruffton


Is there a 22 year old Patrick Roy available? If not, they remain Leafs.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 10 @ 12:00 PM ET
Did you lose a beer, or was the bet about the season starting on time?
- 1970vintage

I won a virtual beer - I bet that the season wouldn't start on time.

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 10 @ 12:00 PM ET
Luongo, Kessler and both Sedins for Kadri.

Sincerely, Brian Burke.


(too soon ?)

- Pairo11



That is closer to a Burke proposal than you can imagine. It sounds like exactly something he would propose

On another sad firing yesterday ,Britney Spears will not be coming back as an XFactor judge next year
DarcyTucker16
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St.Albert, AB
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jan 10 @ 12:01 PM ET
HA
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