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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 10 @ 2:06 PM ET
Its called postional depth. The Canucks feel that they have 2 #1 goalies and there is a redundency in that. They want to trade one to help fill holes in other areas. Is this really a difficult concept to figure out?
- fiveandagame


It is when you suggest his contract isnt the issue.

Its hard to figure out why you're trading the proven amazing goalie instead of the guy with 60 games, when the contract is no big deal.
rune_74
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 01.14.2007

Jan 10 @ 2:06 PM ET
And yet (outside of Rielly), there probably isn't a Leaf that the Canucks and their fans want more
- As_I_See_It


This should be pretty simple for you...the canucks and their fans want players they can use, not your scrubs and C- prospects.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 10 @ 2:07 PM ET
... But let's disregard Lu's age and contract, and the fact that a stacked Van team in arguably the weakest division (until recently) had anything to do with any of those rewards.

Exactly. Gardiner WAS A ROOKIE D-man who managed to turn heads around the league with his poise, skating, pucks smarts, vision etc despite being on a lottery team.

- As_I_See_It


Gardiner is a very decent not elite Dman . A rose in a pile of fertilizer will always be noticed. Being on HNIC every week did not hurt his popularity.

Leafs as do other teams tend to over value players worth.

Vancouvers Dfense last year was a chinese fire drill. I would have ranked their D around 20 th in the league last year. It was our goalies who made our D look good not vice versa.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 10 @ 2:07 PM ET
This should be pretty simple for you...the canucks and their fans want players they can use, not your scrubs and C- prospects.
- rune_74


Thank god. Leave us out of your rumours then. Thanks you, Leaf Nation.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jan 10 @ 2:07 PM ET
So you think they would keep Bryz and Luongo this year just to buy out Bryz next year? That's a TON of money committed to goalies over the next 10years, lol
- BoBBeR56


That money doens't show up on that cap. It's not like Ed Sneider has a problem spending money. Bryz is a problem for the Flyers. Ed can make that go away by signing a cheque. It wouldn't be the first time someone with deep pockets did that.
BoBBeR56
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Leaf Nation, ON
Joined: 06.30.2010

Jan 10 @ 2:07 PM ET
Seriously? At this point in time the odds favour the canucks by a wide margin, unless your a blind follower of a GMless team...oh wait they took another of our castoffs as a gm right?
- rune_74

Yah...the two GM's who built your team...
LEAFSfan28191
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PEPPER FOREVER!!!!!, SK
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jan 10 @ 2:07 PM ET
so what happens if you draft 14 th?
- VANTEL

if were dead last your guaranteed top 2 bro
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 10 @ 2:07 PM ET
Dude we don't play the leafs 6 times a year, too bad...
- rune_74


Which is why nobody understands Vancouver's little hate boners for the Leafs.

I get it, Van fans want the Canucks to be "Canada's team," but we all know that will never happen.
rune_74
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 01.14.2007

Jan 10 @ 2:08 PM ET
Yah...the two GM's who built your team...
- BoBBeR56



Yeah, you can see what they left behind in opur prospect pool...oh thats right
LEAFSfan28191
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PEPPER FOREVER!!!!!, SK
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jan 10 @ 2:09 PM ET
Which is why nobody understands Vancouver's little hate boners for the Leafs.

I get it, Van fans want the Canucks to be "Canada's team," but we all know that will never happen.

- As_I_See_It

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 10 @ 2:09 PM ET
We get another good prospect. Its a deep draft.

But you're a Canucks fan. Hire Fletcher. He can draft shmaft with the best of them.

- systemtool



I heard Oiler fans saying last year about it being a deep top 10 draft and after the WJC they were looking to trade Yakupov
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jan 10 @ 2:09 PM ET
Oh very nice,leave it to a Van fan to be completely out of touch with reality..

1) Not a chance in hell Gard/Reilly is gona be included in any deal for Lou..Why all the sudden since Burkie was let go do you scabs in Van seem to think your gona take the leafs to the cleaners for a overpriced over contracted goalie that we really wont need for another 2-3 yrs away?Oh wait you guys have thought all along you were gona rape the leafs for him LMAO..Wont happen

2) To even suggest the Van will wait till end of the season and then buy him out is ever more retarded thinking.Why would they pay him to go away when they could get at least a bag of pucks for him and saving over 30 mill to buy him out.

You Van fans make me howl.You slam burke and yet if it wasnt for him you wouldnt be in the postion your team is in now.How soon we forget the good things he has done..Your team must think everyone is as dumb as wood,so dumb your gm actually thought that by spreading bogus rumors like Philly wanting LOu is gona get you more outa the leafs or panthers for him.HAHAHA dumbass Van fans

- ALeafsFan4Ever


Idiot Van fans.....and you haven't even mastered basic punctuation. Bravo.
rune_74
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 01.14.2007

Jan 10 @ 2:09 PM ET
Which is why nobody understands Vancouver's little hate boners for the Leafs.

I get it, Van fans want the Canucks to be "Canada's team," but we all know that will never happen.

- As_I_See_It



It's not the team we hate. We can never rise to the joke level of toronto maple leafs though can we
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 10 @ 2:09 PM ET
I heard Oiler fans saying last year about it being a deep top 10 draft and after the WJC they were looking to trade Yakupov
- VANTEL



There is a difference between Oiler fans and informed media. A small portion of Oilers fans would do that, but thats what happens when you have RNH, Hall, Eberle etc.

BoBBeR56
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Leaf Nation, ON
Joined: 06.30.2010

Jan 10 @ 2:10 PM ET
Though toronto had a ton of money...Van can seem to afford it. His cap hit is what 5.3 m? That too rich for you guys?
- rune_74

Wow you are slow...
Why would a young, rebuilding team spend $5.3mil of its cap for a 34yr old goalie? If this was for Schneider then it would be a different conversation.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 10 @ 2:10 PM ET
It's not the team we hate. We can never rise to the joke level of toronto maple leafs though can we
- rune_74


Your lack of cups says other wise. Every bit of a joke.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jan 10 @ 2:10 PM ET
It is when you suggest his contract isnt the issue.

Its hard to figure out why you're trading the proven amazing goalie instead of the guy with 60 games, when the contract is no big deal.

- systemtool


Schnieder is 26 years old and has had success at every level. The 60 games he has played in the NHL have been very good and the team feels comfertable going with him.

This whole saga will most likely have been played out in the next 5-7 days. At that point we can all find out who was right and wrong.
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 10 @ 2:10 PM ET
Gardiner is a very decent not elite Dman . A rose in a pile of fertilizer will always be noticed. Being on HNIC every week did not hurt his popularity.

Leafs as do other teams tend to over value players worth.

Vancouvers Dfense last year was a chinese fire drill. I would have ranked their D around 20 th in the league last year. It was our goalies who made our D look good not vice versa.

- VANTEL


Being tied for 5th in team GF probably didn't hurt Lu/CS' W stats either.
rune_74
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 01.14.2007

Jan 10 @ 2:11 PM ET
What is funny we get accused of hating the leafs yet...in this thread, a canuck thread we have a bunch of delusional leafs fans telling us how stupid we are. How great the leafs are.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jan 10 @ 2:11 PM ET
Gardiner is a very decent not elite Dman . A rose in a pile of fertilizer will always be noticed. Being on HNIC every week did not hurt his popularity.

Leafs as do other teams tend to over value players worth.

Vancouvers Dfense last year was a chinese fire drill. I would have ranked their D around 20 th in the league last year. It was our goalies who made our D look good not vice versa.

- VANTEL

Very true, Gardiner is a solid PMD, not elite but I think most fans would like to have him on their team, it's kind of the measuring stick on how he is perceived as a talent if other fans want him.
BoBBeR56
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Leaf Nation, ON
Joined: 06.30.2010

Jan 10 @ 2:11 PM ET
This should be pretty simple for you...the canucks and their fans want players they can use, not your scrubs and C- prospects.
- rune_74

Leaf fans DON'T want Luongo...KEEP HIM...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 10 @ 2:11 PM ET
Which is why nobody understands Vancouver's little hate boners for the Leafs.

I get it, Van fans want the Canucks to be "Canada's team," but we all know that will never happen.

- As_I_See_It



Hate the Leafs . Not at all

1 Two and a Half Men
2 BigBang Theory
3 Leafs
4 Benny Hill
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 10 @ 2:12 PM ET
Schnieder is 26 years old and has had success at every level. The 60 games he has played in the NHL have been very good and the team feels comfertable going with him.

This whole saga will most likely have been played out in the next 5-7 days. At that point we can all find out who was right and wrong.

- fiveandagame


It will take longer than that. If Schneider stumbles and falters, that can play a major role in all this and whether they moved the right goalie. Regardless, its going to be very interesting.
rune_74
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 01.14.2007

Jan 10 @ 2:12 PM ET
Your lack of cups says other wise. Every bit of a joke.
- systemtool


Quick question, ever seen the leafs with a cup in color? You actually went there, not surprising since you know...it wasn't easier to win the cup with only 6 teams.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 10 @ 2:13 PM ET
What is funny we get accused of hating the leafs yet...in this thread, a canuck thread we have a bunch of delusional leafs fans telling us how stupid we are. How great the leafs are.
- rune_74


And this is different that the many Nucks fans coming into the Leafs thread. Brilliant.
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