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Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 10 @ 12:04 PM ET
The one and only way I could see a three-way trade involving VAN, TOR and the Flyers is a deal where every team ends up with something coveted, such as Flyers ending up with Gardiner + Kadri (the rumored trading cost), Leafs with Luongo and Canucks with Schenn.

And, no, I don't think that will happen.

nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jan 10 @ 12:04 PM ET
I love this Luongo stuff... All flyers fans know this is not going to happen just because it makes no sense whatsoever but sure lets mess with bryz's confidence before the first day of camp. Then the interview with all the cosmonaut stuff.. I am sorry but I think the idea that he is a little out there might derail the season for whole team. How about this lets see if we leave him alone and alone talk about hockey that maybe he has a bounce back year....We are setting bryz up to fail
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jan 10 @ 12:05 PM ET
The one and only way I could see a three-way trade involving VAN, TOR and the Flyers is a deal where every team ends up with something coveted, such as Flyers ending up with Gardiner + Kadri (the rumored trading cost), Leafs with Luongo and Canucks with Schenn.

And, no, I don't think that will happen.

- bmeltzer

which schenn remember gotta be specific we have both of them now
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jan 10 @ 12:05 PM ET
The one and only way I could see a three-way trade involving VAN, TOR and the Flyers is a deal where every team ends up with something coveted, such as Flyers ending up with Gardiner + Kadri (the rumored trading cost), Leafs with Luongo and Canucks with Schenn.

And, no, I don't think that will happen.

- bmeltzer


I don't think it will either but let's say it did. Would you be ok with giving up Schenn for Gardiner & Kadri?
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jan 10 @ 12:06 PM ET
I love this Luongo stuff... All flyers fans know this is not going to happen just because it makes no sense whatsoever but sure lets mess with bryz's confidence before the first day of camp. Then the interview with all the cosmonaut stuff.. I am sorry but I think the idea that he is a little out there might derail the season for whole team. How about this lets see if we leave him alone and alone talk about hockey that maybe he has a bounce back year....We are setting bryz up to fail
- nonpoint22


If Bryz fails it has much more to do with him than anything fans or media say IMO
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 10 @ 12:07 PM ET
I don't think it will either but let's say it did. Would you be ok with giving up Schenn for Gardiner & Kadri?
- NickTheKid87


I'd be nervous about it. But Gardiner would be the real key, and he'd make me feel a bit better about the Flyers' blueline outlook going forward as well as this year. Would never give up Schenn for Kadri + lesser upside D-man.



Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 10 @ 12:08 PM ET
which schenn remember gotta be specific we have both of them now
- nonpoint22


Brayden
Trainfellow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.23.2012

Jan 10 @ 12:11 PM ET
Bill, any truth to the Flyers starting out with a home and home against Pittsburgh?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jan 10 @ 12:12 PM ET
I love this Luongo stuff... All flyers fans know this is not going to happen just because it makes no sense whatsoever but sure lets mess with bryz's confidence before the first day of camp. Then the interview with all the cosmonaut stuff.. I am sorry but I think the idea that he is a little out there might derail the season for whole team. How about this lets see if we leave him alone and alone talk about hockey that maybe he has a bounce back year....We are setting bryz up to fail
- nonpoint22

If a rumour about Luongo destroys Bryzgalof then we might as well tell him we're buying him out right now and play Leighton.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jan 10 @ 12:13 PM ET
Bill, any truth to the Flyers starting out with a home and home against Pittsburgh?
- Trainfellow

Home against Pittsburgh then a road game against Buffalo Saturday and Sunday is the current rumour de jour.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 10 @ 12:13 PM ET
Bill, any truth to the Flyers starting out with a home and home against Pittsburgh?
- Trainfellow


From what I've been hearing, they open at home vs. Pittsburgh in a 3 PM Saturday game (NBC broadcast) and then will have a road game in Buffalo on Sunday afternoon (Sabres opener).

The Pitt opener is 100 percent confirmed first-hand. Game two is via secondary sources.


BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 10 @ 12:14 PM ET
If a rumour about Luongo destroys Bryzgalof then we might as well tell him we're buying him out right now and play Leighton.
- mayorofangrytown

Agreed. I mean, I think Ilya's been treated pretty poorly by the beat around here, but if a rumor is too much his psyche is beyond fragile.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jan 10 @ 12:14 PM ET
I'd be nervous about it. But Gardiner would be the real key, and he'd make me feel a bit better about the Flyers' blueline outlook going forward as well as this year. Would never give up Schenn for Kadri + lesser upside D-man.
- bmeltzer


Especially with Briere hurting.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 10 @ 12:15 PM ET
Especially with Briere hurting.
- bradleyc4


Not too worried about Briere, unless they discover he actually has a fracture of some sort.

NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jan 10 @ 12:16 PM ET
Agreed. I mean, I think Ilya's been treated pretty poorly by the beat around here, but if a rumor is too much his psyche is beyond fragile.
- BulliesPhan87


I think the media makes him seem more mentally fragile than he really is. I've scene scouting reports that actually call him "mentally tough".
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jan 10 @ 12:17 PM ET
The one and only way I could see a three-way trade involving VAN, TOR and the Flyers is a deal where every team ends up with something coveted, such as Flyers ending up with Gardiner + Kadri (the rumored trading cost), Leafs with Luongo and Canucks with Schenn.

And, no, I don't think that will happen.

- bmeltzer

bill you dontthink they trade Couts...Why? At this point i dont think they would reunite (Schen Bros) just to break them up.
Trainfellow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.23.2012

Jan 10 @ 12:18 PM ET
From what I've been hearing, they open at home vs. Pittsburgh in a 3 PM Saturday game (NBC broadcast) and then will have a road game in Buffalo on Sunday afternoon (Sabres opener).

The Pitt opener is 100 percent confirmed first-hand. Game two is via secondary sources.

- bmeltzer


Thanks.. I live in Buffalo so I heard rumor Philly was playing here, but also heard the pens home/home.. I'd like to get solid seats because theyll likely only play here once this season
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jan 10 @ 12:18 PM ET
Not too worried about Briere, unless they discover he actually has a fracture of some sort.
- bmeltzer


I don't think you make that deal until you're sure of that, is what I'm saying.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jan 10 @ 12:22 PM ET
I think the media makes him seem more mentally fragile than he really is. I've scene scouting reports that actually call him "mentally tough".
- NickTheKid87



I dont know, a person who talks about a person or in this case a fan base when there not around like he did in russia kinda smells of someone who lets every little thing bother him. I hope your right
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jan 10 @ 12:25 PM ET
I don't think you make that deal until you're sure of that, is what I'm saying.
- bradleyc4



i make no deal....try the RFA UFA way and fill things out short term an see where everyone is come April
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 10 @ 12:25 PM ET
I don't think you make that deal until you're sure of that, is what I'm saying.
- bradleyc4

If it is a wrist fracture.. he could potentially miss the season. Or he could be back in 2 weeks. So many different types of bones you could damage.. and each one heals differently..

edit: wish it was an ankle injury
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 10 @ 12:27 PM ET
bill you dontthink they trade Couts...Why? At this point i dont think they would reunite (Schen Bros) just to break them up.
- Philly1980

I think the fact that they are brothers has zero significance on hockey moves...
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jan 10 @ 12:30 PM ET
I think the fact that they are brothers has zero significance on hockey moves...
- jak521


Maybe it doesnt....But i like B Schenn.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jan 10 @ 12:31 PM ET
If it is a wrist fracture.. he could potentially miss the season. Or he could be back in 2 weeks. So many different types of bones you could damage.. and each one heals differently..

edit: wish it was an ankle injury

- jak521

Oh, they'll be plenty of ankle injuries around here come the end of February when the Flyers are in 12th place.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jan 10 @ 12:35 PM ET
I dont know, a person who talks about a person or in this case a fan base when there not around like he did in russia kinda smells of someone who lets every little thing bother him. I hope your right
- nonpoint22


I know what you mean. I think we'll see his true colors after this year. Usually guys who sign big deals to play elsewhere, especially going from Phoenix to Philly (both in terms of media & on-ice system), have an adjustment period that 1st season.
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