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poohcrumbs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I think Loov is going to become another Lidstrom- matt1337
Joined: 09.12.2009

Jan 9 @ 9:15 PM ET
You could give me three Kessels, and you still can't have my Tyler Seguin.




ok

- The_Vark


not very rational, is it?
Richard Cloutier
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 07.30.2008

Jan 9 @ 9:16 PM ET
Give your head a shake you clown.
- SameOld


I wish every blog comment started with this sentence. Pure gold.
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Jan 9 @ 9:19 PM ET
Just coming in to say no way Phaneuf plays/gets traded to the oil
Richard Cloutier
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 07.30.2008

Jan 9 @ 9:21 PM ET
Just coming in to say no way Phaneuf plays/gets traded to the oil
- FLflames34


What do Flames fans care if he goes to Edmonton? You're not scared, are you?
flashfire
Joined: 10.02.2006

Jan 9 @ 9:23 PM ET
nice shot at the Flames...by the way the Oilers didn't allow the team to suck like it was some master plan...they are just incompetent. They have one style of player and that doesn't win in this league.
OilHorse
Edmonton Oilers
Location: EKolb..ChiRef..Dnozzlesupreme, BC
Joined: 10.12.2010

Jan 9 @ 9:23 PM ET
We cannot express how grateful we, the people east of Winnipeg, are. Your blogs introduce us to a world we never knew existed. Up until reading your blogs, names like Hall, Eberle, RNH, Yakupov and Schultz were unknown to us. We have nothing but the utmost respect for you, RC. Keep doing your thing, and educating those of us who obviously do not have access to the same quality/quantity of information that you do.

Sincerely,

East of Winnipeg

- laughs2907


Thankfully you are not mad or bitter...
flashfire
Joined: 10.02.2006

Jan 9 @ 9:24 PM ET
What do Flames fans care if he goes to Edmonton? You're not scared, are you?
- Maxbone


he would actually fit in to their defensive structure...or lack there of
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Jan 9 @ 9:27 PM ET
What do Flames fans care if he goes to Edmonton? You're not scared, are you?
- Maxbone

nope. He just has too much of an inflated head to do it.
Though, I wouldn't mind seeing him miss the net from the blue line by 10 feet every time, or standing by Dubnyk's post once a game looking up at the jumbotron after a goal is scored.
You should try to trade for him
hockeylegend488
Edmonton Oilers
Location: fredericton
Joined: 07.25.2011

Jan 9 @ 9:30 PM ET
Dion/Gardiner/2nd for RNH

Dion your big shut down d man

Gardiner and Shultz reunited

- Sherratt0204

That would never happen.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Jan 9 @ 9:32 PM ET
Canucks will get a lot more for Luongo now since Burke promised ownership he'd be a leaf after the cba was concluded and now Burke is gone. Why you ask?

Well the new owners want Bobby Luo and Burke didn't want to pay the price the Canucks were asking. Now there's pressure on nonis to get Luo and gillis knows it.the cba wasn't as harsh as Burke thought it would be on the Canucks in terms of cap hit or penalty for the front loaded deal. Burke thought he'd get Luo for a song but the Canucks can actually hold onto him with the 70 mill cap and await better offers from desperate GMs. This will force nonis to do what Burke wouldn't.the pressure is all on nonis.

Canucks will get bozak, Gardiner (or some other half decent dman which rules out phaneuf), and a solid prospect.

- kaptaan


What are they putting the magic mushrooms out west these days. "Canucks will get more for Luongo now".

Let me get this straight... just so I understand. The GM of a hockey team in TOronto gets fired, therefore the market value of a player on a team in Vancouver increases?

I guess I'm slow... since there is such a huge long list of teams who would want Luongo why would one GM losing his job change the value? Or is it your belief it changes the value because that GM who lost is job is the only really interested party in acquiring said player? It can't be both - it has to be one or the other.

Now you may believe the Luongo has huge trade value - and without that contract he just might. But the hard cold (sorry cool for you west coasters) fact is that he has a ridiculous contract that is going to mess up the Canucks already messy CAP situation by July 2nd... which will probably be about 6 weeks after the Canucks are eliminated from the playoffs if they don't their locker room and goaltending situation sorted out.

I'm not sure those things make Bobby Luo particularly valuable on the marketplace.. and none of those have changed because Burke was fired.

Or perhaps - just perhaps - the Canuck fans don't realize that Gillis will be right behind Burke if he doesn't clean up his situation - which could only mean one thing... he's not dealing from a position of strength.

Before you now trolled Canuckeheads blow a gasket ... please re-read the above and make sure you understand... Burke losing his job doesn't make Luongo worth a 2nd rounder... he remains a 3rd or 4th rounder plus a CAP dump.


spinner and trebles in the water...
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jan 9 @ 9:35 PM ET
I keep seeing MSM listing the Oilers lines like this....

Hall - RNH - Eberle
Yak - Gagner - Hemsky
Smyth - Horcoff - Hartikainen
Eager - Belanger - Jones

Petrell & Hordi

Smid - Petry
J.Schultz - N.Schultz
Whitney - Potter

I have to admit that lineup looks like it could work....

- RichardHertz


Let's go with it.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jan 9 @ 9:36 PM ET
Just coming in to say no way Phaneuf plays/gets traded to the oil
- FLflames34


Thanks for the update, Jay Feaster... I guess I should say Nonis... See, Richard. I'm from east of Winnipeg! WTF is going on!?!
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jan 9 @ 9:40 PM ET
Thankfully you are not mad or bitter...
- OilHorse


Grateful.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jan 9 @ 9:46 PM ET
What are they putting the magic mushrooms out west these days. "Canucks will get more for Luongo now".

Let me get this straight... just so I understand. The GM of a hockey team in TOronto gets fired, therefore the market value of a player on a team in Vancouver increases?

I guess I'm slow... since there is such a huge long list of teams who would want Luongo why would one GM losing his job change the value? Or is it your belief it changes the value because that GM who lost is job is the only really interested party in acquiring said player? It can't be both - it has to be one or the other.

Now you may believe the Luongo has huge trade value - and without that contract he just might. But the hard cold (sorry cool for you west coasters) fact is that he has a ridiculous contract that is going to mess up the Canucks already messy CAP situation by July 2nd... which will probably be about 6 weeks after the Canucks are eliminated from the playoffs if they don't their locker room and goaltending situation sorted out.

I'm not sure those things make Bobby Luo particularly valuable on the marketplace.. and none of those have changed because Burke was fired.

Or perhaps - just perhaps - the Canuck fans don't realize that Gillis will be right behind Burke if he doesn't clean up his situation - which could only mean one thing... he's not dealing from a position of strength.

Before you now trolled Canuckeheads blow a gasket ... please re-read the above and make sure you understand... Burke losing his job doesn't make Luongo worth a 2nd rounder... he remains a 3rd or 4th rounder plus a CAP dump.


spinner and trebles in the water...

- BorjeFan4Ever


im thinking most gm's would be like most fans to.. in the sense that they'd rather see vancouver stuck with luongo and their cap situation implode, well before they'd rather have luongo on their team.

hating the canucks is the only rational standard in hockey these days.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jan 9 @ 9:48 PM ET
nice shot at the Flames...by the way the Oilers didn't allow the team to suck like it was some master plan...they are just incompetent. They have one style of player and that doesn't win in this league.
- flashfire



but they're alot further ahead than most franchises. as soon as they find that balance, they could be one of the most dominating teams ever assembled.
scoot174
Calgary Flames
Location: Oil Tycoon is actually a Flame, AB
Joined: 01.29.2007

Jan 9 @ 9:49 PM ET
Eberle is gonna have a great career
- hockeylegend488


Eberle is a stud, no question.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 9 @ 9:50 PM ET
Dion/Gardiner/2nd for RNH

Dion your big shut down d man

Gardiner and Shultz reunited

- Sherratt0204




lol


scoot174
Calgary Flames
Location: Oil Tycoon is actually a Flame, AB
Joined: 01.29.2007

Jan 9 @ 9:51 PM ET










DROP THE PUCK!!!!! THE OILERS ARE BACK!!!!

- Sammy Van Hagar


and Gunning for 28th Overall! Progress baby!
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 9 @ 9:51 PM ET
Just coming in to say no way Phaneuf plays/gets traded to the oil
- FLflames34



He is literally the last guy in the league Id want to add to the team.


robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 9 @ 9:52 PM ET
and Gunning for 28th Overall! Progress baby!

- scoot174



28th overall pick would be great.


scoot174
Calgary Flames
Location: Oil Tycoon is actually a Flame, AB
Joined: 01.29.2007

Jan 9 @ 9:53 PM ET
nope. He just has too much of an inflated head to do it.
Though, I wouldn't mind seeing him miss the net from the blue line by 10 feet every time, or standing by Dubnyk's post once a game looking up at the jumbotron after a goal is scored.
You should try to trade for him

- FLflames34


No one and mean no one takes a puck out of the back of his own net better than Neon Dion Phaneuf!
scoot174
Calgary Flames
Location: Oil Tycoon is actually a Flame, AB
Joined: 01.29.2007

Jan 9 @ 9:54 PM ET
28th overall pick would be great.
- robin_steele264


and you would probably win 2 lottery picks and get Seth and Drouhin you lucky bastards

edit, you meant 3 rd overall
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jan 9 @ 9:54 PM ET
I see your new year's resolution was to continue totally ridiculous trade ideas that benefit Edmonton only and throw subpar talent with little value going the other way. 90% of the names you mention don't capture more than a fourth round pick at best.
Hall Fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jan 9 @ 9:55 PM ET
I wouldn't mind acquiring any of the guys you just mentioned, but I very strongly disagree that the Oil need a guy to replace Shawn Horcoff.
- SteveTambellini


I also agree that Horcoff is not that huge of a concern. He has trade value with teams needing to make the floor. Plus he is one of the best face off men in the league and that is something that RNH and Hall if he makes the move to Center will need help with.

Toronto is stronger on d than on forward and could part with a dman to make room for their prospects coming up. To be realistic, neither team is a cup contender this year but both teams could benefit from a trade.

Edmonton has a surplus of forwards in the system. Maybe not NHL ready but freeing space does allow flexibility in the off season as well. Players like Pajarvii or Omark who Edmonton are not playing but could turn out to be solid players, might be the type of assets TO would look at for one of their dmen they are not certain about.

Regardless the two teams need to do something and they have opposite strengths so a trade would make sense despite what fans think. I don't however think they will fix our goalie situation.

I think they should rent Dan Ellis for this season while Habby is a maybe unless someone knows anyone better out there and try to get someone like Backstrom in the offseason. I like Dubnyk but if you can't get dmen, get two good goalies to compete against each other.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 9 @ 9:56 PM ET
and you would probably win 2 lottery picks and get Seth and Drouhin you lucky bastards

edit, you meant 3 rd overall

- scoot174


no

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