More playoff guarantees.....

A 34 year old goalie in decline doesn't match with building a young team. We're not done building yet.
- burn

Therefore, MLSE doesn't mind if the Leafs miss the playoffs for another 5 years?

Somehow, I doubt that...

Therefore, MLSE doesn't mind if the Leafs miss the playoffs for another 5 years?

Somehow, I doubt that...
- Pecafan Fan

Ya it amazes me how people seem to think that another 5 years without playoffs is acceptable for ownership.

Hell, ownership, and the fans want playoff hockey this year.

Simple fact

Therefore, MLSE doesn't mind if the Leafs miss the playoffs for another 5 years?

Somehow, I doubt that...
- Pecafan Fan

Lou doesn't guarantee that... but he does guarantee cap issues for years, and a penalty when he retires.

Lou doesn't guarantee that... but he does guarantee cap issues for years, and a penalty when he retires.
- burn

He doesn't guarantee it, but he makes it a whole lot more possible.

Lou doesn't guarantee that... but he does guarantee cap issues for years, and a penalty when he retires.
- burn

He doesn't guarantee it...but he makes it very likely.

He doesn't guarantee it, but he makes it a whole lot more possible.
- Pecafan Fan

yeah like all those years he took the Panthers to the big dance...

yeah like all those years he took the Panthers to the big dance...
- BlowMonkey

If you look at his numbers back then, he wasn't the guy who didn't fulfill his part of the deal. The Panthers were (frank)ing terrible.

Edit: 0.931 sv% in 2003-04, 73 games played and they STILL missed the playoffs. Not sure how you can blame him for that.

Why couldn't the Leafs get Luongo for 1 1/2 seasons than buy him out?

They have the money to do this, it provides stability in the net and it gives a mentor for Reimer or Scrivens.

I heard the new CBA pretty much decreases Luongo value. So now it all comes down to a money thing and we all know that MLSE has tons of that.

Lou doesn't guarantee that... but he does guarantee cap issues for years, and a penalty when he retires.
- burn

If not Lou, then the Leafs don't make the playoffs for a few more years. They have no goalie now, in the system, that you can deem a top notch goalie.

I know you think Lou is in decline, but the stats don't support that. He was the Jennings award winner in 2011. And goalie's have a longer playing career span than other players.

The cap hit on a annual basis is very fair, for the calibre of goalie that he is. Don't like the term length, that is obvious. But essentially we'd be getting him for nothing more than spare parts. I'd take a cap hit of 2 mill a year for 3 years if meant a stable NHL calibre goalie for the next 5 years. Because like I said, the alternative is no playoffs in sight.

If you look at his numbers back then, he wasn't the guy who didn't fulfill his part of the deal. The Panthers were (frank)ing terrible.

Edit: 0.931 sv% in 2003-04, 73 games played and they STILL missed the playoffs. Not sure how you can blame him for that.
- Pecafan Fan

pssst the Leafs are (frank)ing terrible.

Why couldn't the Leafs get Luongo for 1 1/2 seasons than buy him out?

They have the money to do this, it provides stability in the net and it gives a mentor for Reimer or Scrivens.

I heard the new CBA pretty much decreases Luongo value. So now it all comes down to a money thing and we all know that MLSE has tons of that.
- dreamblue

Bingo.

People need to stop looking at the Leafs budget as if it was their grocery money.

pssst the Leafs are (frank)ing terrible.
- BlowMonkey

...between the pipes

Bingo.

People need to stop looking at the Leafs budget as if it was their grocery money.
- Pecafan Fan

People also miss the point that for each playoff game that the Leafs play, they make 3.5 million profit. Even if they played 6 playoff games over the next 3 years, they make 20 million. They'd be able to buyout Luongo with that money alone if they so desired.

Getting Luong makes too much sense from a buisness side of things.

From building a team point of view, he won't cost us anything of any real value.

No brainer here

Bingo.

People need to stop looking at the Leafs budget as if it was their grocery money.
- Pecafan Fan

If I understand correctly, If he retires we get dinged with the "cap savings" we had due to the front loaded contract.

I don't care how much MLSE spends. I do care about how much cap space we have in the future to resign our places and sign free agents.

If I understand correctly, If he retires we get dinged with the "cap savings" we had due to the front loaded contract.

I don't care how much MLSE spends. I do care about how much cap space we have in the future to resign our places and sign free agents.
- Cfser

Your concerned about 7 years down the road?? Your concerned about getting dinged 2 million per year in cap hit in 7 years time? The cap will probably be around 90 million by that time.

2 million?? C'mon man

If I understand correctly, If he retires we get dinged with the "cap savings" we had due to the front loaded contract.

I don't care how much MLSE spends. I do care about how much cap space we have in the future to resign our places and sign free agents.
- Cfser

Let's say Kessel doesn't see the playoffs before his contract runs out with the Leafs. Do you think he'll want to sign again in Toronto?

IMHO, getting a guy like Luongo shows to the players currently in the Leafs system that they are willing to spend in order to win. It's a positive message.

...between the pipes
- Pecafan Fan

but really strong up the middle and on defence?

come on. Luongo is a great goalie - past his prime and aging with a horrible contract. He might get the Leafs to the playoffs but is more likely to get them to 9th or 10th and for that the Leafs get to carry his contract for the next decade and give away some prospects....what a deal.

I hope Burke stays the course.. Walk away from Luongo.. People compare to how well he did with Florida. Sure he was a younger goaltender back then with much better reflexes.. His mouth attitude and play in the finals against Boston kind of damaged him in my mind.. I thikn the key to this team is Carlyle getting the players to buy into this defensice system which should make no matter who is in net look some better. Ride the wave with Reimer/Scrivens.. Sure it will be a tough year.. But it is only a half season.

but really strong up the middle and on defence?

come on. Luongo is a great goalie - past his prime and aging with a horrible contract. He might get the Leafs to the playoffs but is more likely to get them to 9th or 10th and for that the Leafs get to carry his contract for the next decade and give away some prospects....what a deal.
- BlowMonkey

Gotta start somewhere.

what happen to Brian Huddle ... I miss his propect blog.

If Lu come here to Toronna will Scrivens go the other way as Vancouver will/may need a backup?



ah the excitement is starting to build be it 4 month late.

what happen to Brian Huddle ... I miss his propect blog.

If Lu come here to Toronna will Scrivens go the other way as Vancouver will/may need a backup?



ah the eciment is starting to build be it 4 month late.
- dmnted

The nucks have their backup goalie. Eddie Lack. Scrivens in all likely hood would be waived, since he can't be sent back down.

The nucks have their backup goalie. Eddie Lack. Scrivens in all likely hood would be waived, since he can't be sent back down.
- faceto27

I read report that he is injured. his groin i think. the only reason I was questionning if Scrivens would be part of the deal.

I read report that he is injured. his groin i think. the only reason I was questionning if Scrivens would be part of the deal.
- dmnted

That is true........ perhaps they take Scrivens as insurance, they can always waive him later

Need some clarification here:

If we get Luongo, and he retires early, isn't that Vancouver's responsibility under the new CBA?

Need some clarification here:

If we get Luongo, and he retires early, isn't that Vancouver's responsibility under the new CBA?
- gravyface

Both the nucks and the Leafs. Leafs would get dinged approx. 2 mil per season for each year remaining assuming he plays till he is 40.