I do love how he fleeced Edmonton for Pronger by over-selling Lupul at the height of his value, then fleeced Anaheim by picking up Lupul at his absolute lowest.
- Leeman4Gilmour

Weird too, cause Edmonton was under no pressure at all to get a deal done. What a mastermind.

Weird too, cause Edmonton was under no pressure at all to get a deal done. What a mastermind.
- sanfordnson

Ya Kevin is truly one of the league's finest

Weird too, cause Edmonton was under no pressure at all to get a deal done. What a mastermind.
- sanfordnson

Zero.

Weird too, cause Edmonton was under no pressure at all to get a deal done. What a mastermind.
- sanfordnson

Yes, and it's not like Edmonton had anywhere else to send him.

Who would take a plug like Pronger?

Ya Kevin is truly one of the league's finest
- faceto27

Im not excusing him. There is a reason he's no longer the GM. Just pointing that there was a rather important extenuating factor in that deal.

Yes, and it's not like Edmonton had anywhere else to send him.

Who would take a plug like Pronger?
- Leeman4Gilmour

True. He should have just waited so that the issue could drag into the season. Things like that really help team building.

Im not excusing him. There is a reason he's no longer the GM. Just pointing that there was a rather important extenuating factor in that deal.
- sanfordnson

Mrs. Pronger

Mrs. Pronger
- mykokes

Sad but true

The World Record Moose - 75" wide & 36 points - Over 2,300 lbs - 350 yards shot






imagine your car hitting that thing?
- jbold

honestly, can't imagine that mentality.

"wow, look at how majestic that animal is, possibly the most majestic of it's species... LETS KILL IT JUST CUZ!"

Is it so cut and dry? I mean while on the same team a 21 year old Sundin sure did put up better numbers than a 23 year old Sakic......
13 Mats Sundin 1971-02-13 21 C 80 47 67 114 96 21 6 3 1 4 6
19 Joe Sakic 1969-07-07 23 C 78 48 57 105 40 -3 6 3 3 6 2

and the next year
19 Joe Sakic 1969-07-07 24 C 84 28 64 92 18 -8 -- -- -- -- --
13 Mats Sundin 1971-02-13 22 C 84 32 53 85 60 1 -

These are numbers on the same team, of course we're talking careers here, and Sakic had the better career. But don't you find it the least bit interesting those two years? And it wasn't just one game, 20 points in 16 Olympic games, 12 points in 8 world cup games. It's a fricking travesty that he had so little to work with in Toronto. We had a franchise centre and we couldn't even get that right.
- mykokes

I hate myself for typing this, but there's a case to be made for Sundin over Yzerman.

In terms of pure talent, I'd take Sundin. His size (even though he never used it) gives him an added dimension.

Yeah, I feel dirty.

honestly, can't imagine that mentality.

"wow, look at how majestic that animal is, possibly the most majestic of it's species... LETS KILL IT JUST CUZ!"
- Feeling Glucky?

Gotta agree with you here. The meat wouldn't even be very good off of one that size. ego kill.

The World Record Moose - 75" wide & 36 points - Over 2,300 lbs - 350 yards shot






imagine your car hitting that thing?
- jbold

The evil Sith Lord, Darth Moose, never stood a chance against the young Jedi Master...

honestly, can't imagine that mentality.

"wow, look at how majestic that animal is, possibly the most majestic of it's species... LETS KILL IT JUST CUZ!"
- Feeling Glucky?

Food...

Yes. Sakic is on another level than Sundin.
- Two_For_Truth

tlusty on same level as sakic?

I hate myself for typing this, but there's a case to be made for Sundin over Yzerman.

In terms of pure talent, I'd take Sundin. His size (even though he never used it) gives him an added dimension.

Yeah, I feel dirty.
- Atomic Wedgie

Sundin didn't smash people, but he did use his size effectively.


If he had a meanstreak, he woulda been unstoppable.

I hate myself for typing this, but there's a case to be made for Sundin over Yzerman.

In terms of pure talent, I'd take Sundin. His size (even though he never used it) gives him an added dimension.

Yeah, I feel dirty.
- Atomic Wedgie

BUT UG SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hate myself for typing this, but there's a case to be made for Sundin over Yzerman.

In terms of pure talent, I'd take Sundin. His size (even though he never used it) gives him an added dimension.

Yeah, I feel dirty.
- Atomic Wedgie

You should. Im gonna forget you typed that.

Sundin didn't smash people, but he did use his size effectively.


If he had a meanstreak, he woulda been unstoppable.
- Feeling Glucky?

once in a while he would drop the shoulder.

Food...
- AdamFrench

Makes sense. Life would be so much easier if we could just go to some kind of building that housed cleaned and properly portioned pieces of meat that we could purchase in a matter of minutes.

You should. Im gonna forget you typed that.
- sanfordnson

i need to lay off the pipe

Sundin never had a Forsberg on his team either.
he had a hoglund

I hate myself for typing this, but there's a case to be made for Sundin over Yzerman.

In terms of pure talent, I'd take Sundin. His size (even though he never used it) gives him an added dimension.

Yeah, I feel dirty.
- Atomic Wedgie

Despite Yzerman being 8 goals shy of 700 and 1755 career points. And 185 playoff points.

You should feel dirty...

tlusty on same level as sakic?
- Neiler

Sakic has some pretty good players to feed on the power play: Forsberg, Kamensky, C. Lemieux.

But Robbie Earl was traded before Tlusty emerged as a superstar, so it's hard to compare.

Hard, but not impossible.

Tlusty.

Makes sense. Life would be so much easier if we could just go to some kind of building that housed cleaned and properly portioned pieces of meat that we could purchase in a matter of minutes.
- Feeling Glucky?

Wild meat>>>than overly processed grocery store meat.

but like I said, on a moose that big and how old it likely was, the meat would be tough and gamey. that fella shoulda been left alone to die a warriors death.

Gotta agree with you here. The meat wouldn't even be very good off of one that size. ego kill.
- sanfordnson

really tough, and probably too gamey.

Killed that thing just to put it on a wall.


I want to hunt, never done it before. But not for trophies. Just to know what to do.