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AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Jan 8 @ 12:23 PM ET
I don't know about you guys but the Piers Morgan/Alex Jones stand-off last night on CNN brought a warm glow to my heart that the return of the NHL couldn't pull off in a million years
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Jan 8 @ 12:24 PM ET
Why?
We were paying Tucker 1million to play on another team.
A 2million cap hit would be nothing.

- Fakepartofme


As somebody else pointed out, the worst case scenario isn't Luongo retiring and sticking us with the penalty.

The worst case scenario is Luongo's play dropping off in 3-4 years and leaving us on the hook for a $5.2 million back-up goalie for another 6 years.
peddy-93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bernier is better than Reimer, Reimer is better than Bernier - #TOproblems, ON
Joined: 06.08.2012

Jan 8 @ 12:24 PM ET
Am I comparing Gauthier as a player to Stevens or as a hitter? Please don't make assumptions. Thanks. PS. It was hitting that got Gauthier selected in the first round, problem was he had poop all to the rest of his game.


- mykokes

im going to call dennis and scott and tell them to line eachother up, last one standing wins
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jan 8 @ 12:25 PM ET
I don't know about you guys but the Piers Morgan/Alex Jones stand-off last night on CNN brought a warm glow to my heart that the return of the NHL couldn't pull off in a million years
- AngryWhiteMale

Heard it on my radio this morning. Pretty hilarious, that Jones guy is a nut.
Cherry--Skoal
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.01.2010

Jan 8 @ 12:25 PM ET
Am I comparing Gauthier as a player to Stevens or as a hitter? Please don't make assumptions. Thanks. PS. It was hitting that got Gauthier selected in the first round, problem was he had poop all to the rest of his game.


- mykokes

Funny how people jump on you when you make a reference to HHOF.

Denis Gauthier could hit as hard as anyone has in the history of the NHL.

But people will flame you because people take it as you compared skill.

Hitting skill people. That is all.
*facepalm
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jan 8 @ 12:25 PM ET
Sucks that we pay Tucker a million as well.
- Leafland

Yup.
peddy-93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bernier is better than Reimer, Reimer is better than Bernier - #TOproblems, ON
Joined: 06.08.2012

Jan 8 @ 12:25 PM ET
This is what I dream of happening:

To Edmonton
Nikolai Kulemin
Cody Franson's RFA Rights

To Toronto
Sam Gangner

---

- Grabovski

Really? Sam Gagner?
AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Jan 8 @ 12:26 PM ET

This is what I dream of happening:

To Toronto
Roberto Luongo
1st Round Pick

To Vancouver
Tyler Bozak
Nazem Kadri

---

To Edmonton
Nikolai Kulemin
Cody Franson's RFA Rights

To Toronto
Sam Gangner

---

Kessel - Gagner - Lupul
JVR - Grabovski - MacArthur
Frattin - McClemment - Connolly
Brown - Steckel - Komarov

Lombardi

Phanuef - Gunnarsson
Liles - Komisarek
Gardiner - Holzer

Fraser

Luongo
Reimer

- Grabovski


So we trade Nazem just as he's on the cusp of finally earning a well-deserved spot on this team?!

No way, he needs to play for us. We finally showed patience with a prospect and we dump him just as he's ready to roll

We should not pay anything truly tangible in this for Lu.

Bozak
Komi
Cond. pick(1st if playoffs, second if we miss playoffs.

There's a lot of talk about Raymond, but really, I don't see why there's the fuss, he's overrated. Lombardi's just as good a skater and a guy like mac, who's the same age, can actually bury 20 pucks in a season.

And why get rid of Franson?! Do you know how hard it is to get a decent right-handed Dman who can shoot the puck? Why do people want to get rid of this guy?
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jan 8 @ 12:26 PM ET
Yup.
- Fakepartofme

2 million for 3 years is fairly important though. Especially for a team that operates at or near the Salary cap. What if thats the year Mckinnon goes UFA?
Cherry--Skoal
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.01.2010

Jan 8 @ 12:27 PM ET
This is what I dream of happening:

To Toronto
Roberto Luongo
1st Round Pick

To Vancouver
Tyler Bozak
Nazem Kadri

---

To Edmonton
Nikolai Kulemin
Cody Franson's RFA Rights

To Toronto
Sam Gangner

---

Kessel - Gagner - Lupul
JVR - Grabovski - MacArthur
Frattin - McClemment - Connolly
Brown - Steckel - Komarov

Lombardi

Phanuef - Gunnarsson
Liles - Komisarek
Gardiner - Holzer

Fraser

Luongo
Reimer

- Grabovski

Prepare to be shredded
peddy-93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bernier is better than Reimer, Reimer is better than Bernier - #TOproblems, ON
Joined: 06.08.2012

Jan 8 @ 12:28 PM ET
Prepare to be shredded
- Cherry--Skoal

already been done
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 8 @ 12:28 PM ET
Prepare to be shredded
- Cherry--Skoal

*Grabs the grater*
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Jan 8 @ 12:29 PM ET
This is what I dream of happening:

To Toronto
Roberto Luongo
1st Round Pick

To Vancouver
Tyler Bozak
Nazem Kadri

---

To Edmonton
Nikolai Kulemin
Cody Franson's RFA Rights

To Toronto
Sam Gangner

---

Kessel - Gagner - Lupul
JVR - Grabovski - MacArthur
Frattin - McClemment - Connolly
Brown - Steckel - Komarov

Lombardi

Phanuef - Gunnarsson
Liles - Komisarek
Gardiner - Holzer

Fraser

Luongo
Reimer

- Grabovski


I... ummm... respectfully disagree.

Why would we do any of this? Luongo is worth Ron Wilson's old coaching notebook, and that's about it. Maybe we'll throw in a pair of tickets to a Leafs game for Gillis and a friend. Maybe.

If the rumors are true, the longer Vancouver holds him, the worse the penalty is for them. He's a ticking time bomb right now. The late first rounder hardly compensates us for taking their headache, even if he is a good goalie.

As for Kulie and Franson for Sam "One Game Wonder" Gagner? I won't even touch that one.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jan 8 @ 12:29 PM ET
This is what I dream of happening:

To Toronto
Roberto Luongo
1st Round Pick

To Vancouver
Tyler Bozak
Nazem Kadri

---

To Edmonton
Nikolai Kulemin
Cody Franson's RFA Rights

To Toronto
Sam Gangner

---

Kessel - Gagner - Lupul
JVR - Grabovski - MacArthur
Frattin - McClemment - Connolly
Brown - Steckel - Komarov

Lombardi

Phanuef - Gunnarsson
Liles - Komisarek
Gardiner - Holzer

Fraser

Luongo
Reimer

- Grabovski


No 1st round pick will be coming back in deal.
I doubt Gagner would be traded.
Fraser will not be with the leafs.
deerow84
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GTA, ON
Joined: 06.26.2012

Jan 8 @ 12:30 PM ET
Anyone know when trades can start? Just whenever the CBA is officially ratified I guess. Just wondering. I suppose most won't happen until after this short training camp so teams will have a few days to at least see what they have first.
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 8 @ 12:30 PM ET
Fans would Boo-Hoo about him till he was out of the league.

He gets the Lucic treatment. Hate him on the other team, but would gargle his knob if he was on your team.

- Leafland


Speak for yourself.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jan 8 @ 12:31 PM ET
2 million for 3 years is fairly important though. Especially for a team that operates at or near the Salary cap. What if thats the year Mckinnon goes UFA?
- Leafland

What if, what if.
By then if profits continue to rise, so will the cap.....it could be over 70 million.
Besides, Mac hasn't even been drafted let alone played an NHL game.
I doubt the 2 million would have an affect.
AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Jan 8 @ 12:32 PM ET
I... ummm... respectfully disagree.

Why would we do any of this? Luongo is worth Ron Wilson's old coaching notebook, and that's about it. Maybe we'll throw in a pair of tickets to a Leafs game for Gillis and a friend. Maybe.

If the rumors are true, the longer Vancouver holds him, the worse the penalty is for them. He's a ticking time bomb right now. The late first rounder hardly compensates us for taking their headache, even if he is a good goalie.

As for Kulie and Franson for Sam "One Game Wonder" Gagner? I won't even touch that one.

- Leeman4Gilmour


With a shortened season and the chance at an amnesty dump I'm starting to believe VAN keeps him. They won't get what they want for him and Schneider's not exactly a guarantee himself.

Plus they'll be banking on the Leafs goaltending woes continuing into this season so that they can try to corner BB into overpaying.

And like I said, right-handed Dmen who can shoot the puck are a rare commodity

We'll need him
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jan 8 @ 12:32 PM ET
Anyone know when trades can start? Just whenever the CBA is officially ratified I guess. Just wondering. I suppose most won't happen until after this short training camp so teams will have a few days to at least see what they have first.
- deerow84

Pretty much
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jan 8 @ 12:33 PM ET
What if, what if.
By then if profits continue to rise, so will the cap.....it could be over 70 million.
Besides, Mac hasn't even been drafted let alone played an NHL game.
I doubt the 2 million would have an affect.

- Fakepartofme

Point taken.
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jan 8 @ 12:36 PM ET
This is what I dream of happening:

To Toronto
Roberto Luongo
1st Round Pick

To Vancouver
Tyler Bozak
Nazem Kadri

---

To Edmonton
Nikolai Kulemin
Cody Franson's RFA Rights

To Toronto
Sam Gangner

---

Kessel - Gagner - Lupul
JVR - Grabovski - MacArthur
Frattin - McClemment - Connolly
Brown - Steckel - Komarov

Lombardi

Phanuef - Gunnarsson
Liles - Komisarek
Gardiner - Holzer

Fraser

Luongo
Reimer

- Grabovski


might wanna keep your dreams to yourself.......
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 8 @ 12:37 PM ET
JVR coming up on Hockey Central at noon...
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jan 8 @ 12:38 PM ET
yeah, you are right....Thornton, Iginla, Dionne, Perreault, Stastny, Lindros, Neely...what a bunch of losers.
- Barx

a lot easier to see their individual contributions to their teams.

Luongo is billed as this mythical creature that will single handedly make the Leafs a playoff team.

Fun fact, with Luongo, Florida wasn't a playoff team.
Without Luongo, they still weren't(well, now they are, but I won't make a link there)

They finished in the same general area of the standings with and without Lu

Vancouver, before Luongo- was a playoff team.
Vancouver with Luongo- was a playoff team.

Their position in the standings, on average, didn't change much.


Neither team saw a drastic improvement or drop with/without Luongo, despite all his eliteness and winningnessness.

He's a very good goalie, yes. But when has he been *the* reason for a team to go far? Giggy was that twice. Brodeur's always been that. Hasek was that. CuJo and Belfour were that, Ward was that. Hell even Roloson's been that.

Can't say Vancouver made it to the finals because of Luongo.
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Jan 8 @ 12:40 PM ET
What if, what if.
By then if profits continue to rise, so will the cap.....it could be over 70 million.
Besides, Mac hasn't even been drafted let alone played an NHL game.
I doubt the 2 million would have an affect.

- Fakepartofme


Again, what if Luongo doesn't retire early? We're focusing on this penalty (which is problem in its own right), but we're forgetting that he's signed for 10 more years at age 34.

Isn't the more terrifying scenario a 38 or 39 year old with 5 or 6 years left on his deal that can't play any better than a back-up? Oh, and he's a 5.2 million dollar hit.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jan 8 @ 12:40 PM ET
This is what I dream of happening:

To Toronto
Roberto Luongo
1st Round Pick

To Vancouver
Tyler Bozak
Nazem Kadri

---

To Edmonton
Nikolai Kulemin
Cody Franson's RFA Rights

To Toronto
Sam Gangner

---

Kessel - Gagner - Lupul
JVR - Grabovski - MacArthur
Frattin - McClemment - Connolly
Brown - Steckel - Komarov

Lombardi

Phanuef - Gunnarsson
Liles - Komisarek
Gardiner - Holzer

Fraser

Luongo
Reimer

- Grabovski

been dipping into your avatar?

I hear that stuff can cause weird dreams/nightmares
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