Really?
- Fakepartofme

for sure

yakupov is going to be shut down so bad, hes so predictable.

especially at the NHL level.

for sure

yakupov is going to be shut down so bad, hes so predictable.

especially at the NHL level.
- Neiler

just like ovechkin last year, cut in and shoot everytime

for sure

yakupov is going to be shut down so bad, hes so predictable.

especially at the NHL level.
- Neiler

LOL Awesome.

just like ovechkin last year, cut in and shoot everytime
- peddy-93

exactly.

people figured OVI out, just like they will nail.

i have a feeling that this will be the first big pickup edmonton has done that they will not be thrilled with.

Not sure what you are asking - guys who stay in Europe?

I can't see that happening - no way Russia allows KHL to piss off IIHF and NHL, as decision on NHL players going to Sochi still up in the air. IIHF's position is that guys need to return to honour contracts.

If your question is about guys with 6+ contracts retiring, Elliott Friedman broke it down in his blog.
- Atomic Wedgie

I thought at least one guy ..Visnovsky? ...had already "defected". If that were to happen I just wonder if there would be any cap consequences.

The second part about Kovy ...take a look at his contract ...if (when) he retires early the Devils will be tortured. He has about 5 obvious retirement years that would work out to almost 5 milly per year in cap recapture penalty.

LOL Awesome.

- Fakepartofme

he will be, you watch.

he wasnt even that great at the wjc

I'm not saying he's not better...or that he doesn't have potential. I'm only frankly concerned with what he's produced. And from a pure production standpoint (which is what the NHL is about), he's performed just as well (maybe a little better) than Reimer while playing on a superior team with a bonafide #1 supporting him.

I'm not saying he's a bust...just that he has a lot more that he needs to show me before I declare him a #1. And most professional scouts also thought Daigle was a bonafide franchise player...they also didn't think a couple of Euro kids named Datsyuk or Zetterberg were worth much.

Pro souts are like the weather man...when they get one right, they become delicate genius'....but when they're wrong....oh well that's just bc the weather is unpredictable...
- Pen15

But weathermen are wrong most of the time.
I understand what you are saying.....but I'd feel better if we had Schneids between the pipes over Reimer.

exactly.

people figured OVI out, just like they will nail.

i have a feeling that this will be the first big pickup edmonton has done that they will not be thrilled with.
- Neiler

They figured him out so hard he scored 38 goals on an injury-riddled team missing his top center for most of the year and top PP defenseman...

What's with all the hype around Schneider?

His # look identical to Reimer's over 68 games...and he played on a vastly superior team.....and he had Luongo as a saftey net....

Schneider is not a proven #1 starter.
- Pen15

No, Schneider's numbers look a lot better... but I agree with sticking with Reimer. He's been injured, and played on a terrible defensive team and is still young... how about we see what he can do given more optimal conditions before 5 million a year for the next decade for a goalie(with some pretty glaring choking tendencies) who is already into his 30's, has no history of winning, can become a cap burden if he decides to retire, can't be waived if he starts to suck, and has lost his job to a rookie that's yet to play a full season.

And yea, he's been in the top-10 on a fairly regular basis in terms of sv%... but we're talking about fractions of percentage points that differentiate top-10 from bottom-10.

for sure

yakupov is going to be shut down so bad, hes so predictable.

especially at the NHL level.
- Neiler

depends who he'll play with.

he will be, you watch.

he wasnt even that great at the wjc
- Neiler

Ok.
Guess we'll see

just like ovechkin last year, cut in and shoot everytime
- peddy-93

Ovechkin will bounce back when the Capital's blueliners start to get better offensively (ie. a healthy Green and a more mature Carlson)....its no different than Jason Spezza in Ottawa prior to Karlson and post Redden and Chara.

They also need to decide whether its Johanson or Backstrom who plays with Ovie.

Point to remember, Ovechkin's worst year is equal to Bobby Ryan's best year. It's just become the vogue thing to do, rip a player when he's down.

They figured him out so hard he scored 38 goals on an injury-riddled team missing his top center for most of the year and top PP defenseman...
- AdamFrench

exactly

They figured him out so hard he scored 38 goals on an injury-riddled team missing his top center for most of the year and top PP defenseman...
- AdamFrench

Pfft ..time to hang 'em up.

No, Schneider's numbers look a lot better... but I agree with sticking with Reimer. He's been injured, and played on a terrible defensive team and is still young... how about we see what he can do given more optimal conditions before 5 million a year for the next decade for a goalie(with some pretty glaring choking tendencies) who is already into his 30's, has no history of winning, can become a cap burden if he decides to retire, can't be waived if he starts to suck, and has lost his job to a rookie that's yet to play a full season.

And yea, he's been in the top-10 on a fairly regular basis in terms of sv%... but we're talking about fractions of percentage points that differentiate top-10 from bottom-10.
- Feeling Glucky?

Won a gold medal at the Olympics, had some shuts in the Cup finals.
If its not Lou it has to be someone else, Reimer will not get you to the playoffs.

Not sure what you are asking - guys who stay in Europe?

I can't see that happening - no way Russia allows KHL to piss off IIHF and NHL, as decision on NHL players going to Sochi still up in the air. IIHF's position is that guys need to return to honour contracts.

If your question is about guys with 6+ contracts retiring, Elliott Friedman broke it down in his blog.
- Atomic Wedgie

Still a lot of questions about how that rule will really work. Mirtle has said he's going to wait till he gets more info because the descriptions don't make a lot of sense. For example, as it is described, Nashville would get a $30M cap hit if Weber retires one year early.

Ovechkin will bounce back when the Capital's blueliners start to get better offensively (ie. a healthy Green and a more mature Carlson)....its no different than Jason Spezza in Ottawa prior to Karlson and post Redden and Chara.

They also need to decide whether its Johanson or Backstrom who plays with Ovie.

Point to remember, Ovechkin's worst year is equal to Bobby Ryan's best year. It's just become the vogue thing to do, rip a player when he's down.
- mykokes

In Ov's both defense and attack, he did seem to lose his explosiveness and creativity this year, he isn't the crazy kid that hit the world by storm, but he does put people through walls all the time and is one of the few power forwards in the league (Outside the fighting aspect).

They figured him out so hard he scored 38 goals on an injury-riddled team missing his top center for most of the year and top PP defenseman...
- AdamFrench

No, they are predictable. Every time they're on the ice, they just do the same stupid thing. Over and over. I mean, try *not* scoring goals, you know what I mean? That scoring poop has gotten ridiculously predictable.

No, Schneider's numbers look a lot better... but I agree with sticking with Reimer. He's been injured, and played on a terrible defensive team and is still young... how about we see what he can do given more optimal conditions before 5 million a year for the next decade for a goalie(with some pretty glaring choking tendencies) who is already into his 30's, has no history of winning, can become a cap burden if he decides to retire, can't be waived if he starts to suck, and has lost his job to a rookie that's yet to play a full season.

And yea, he's been in the top-10 on a fairly regular basis in terms of sv%... but we're talking about fractions of percentage points that differentiate top-10 from bottom-10.
- Feeling Glucky?

No history of winning???

They figured him out so hard he scored 38 goals on an injury-riddled team missing his top center for most of the year and top PP defenseman...
- AdamFrench

kessel scored 38 with bozak/connolly as his center, and 35 playing with joey crabb and bozak a couple of years ago..

not saying ovechkin isnt a scoring machine, but hes not the same player that scored 55-65 goals a couple of years back because hes become predictable

No, they are predictable. Every time they're on the ice, they just do the same stupid thing. Over and over. I mean, try *not* scoring goals, you know what I mean? That scoring poop has gotten ridiculously predictable.
- Feeling Glucky?

Skate-Skate-Skate-Shoot....

Won a gold medal at the Olympics, had some shuts in the Cup finals.
If its not Lou it has to be someone else, Reimer will not get you to the playoffs.
- Fakepartofme

Come on, he was exactly 1 Crosby away from giving the world one of the biggest chokes in Olympic history.

Still a lot of questions about how that rule will really work. Mirtle has said he's going to wait till he gets more info because the descriptions don't make a lot of sense. For example, as it is described, Nashville would get a $30M cap hit if Weber retires one year early.
- Canada Cup

+1

I was just thinking about Friedman's break-down of the situation on his blog, and it only makes sense if you don't think about it too closely.

For instance, if Luongo retires 3 years early (proving that his deal was truly a case of blatant cap circumvention), the Canucks get knocked for $2 million per year for three years.

If he retires just one year early (proving that his deal wasn't really cap circumvention at all), they get hit for $6 million over one year. That seems a heck of a lot more punitive.

In Ov's both defense and attack, he did seem to lose his explosiveness and creativity this year, he isn't the crazy kid that hit the world by storm, but he does put people through walls all the time and is one of the few power forwards in the league (Outside the fighting aspect).
- AdamFrench

hes just lucky he never really had to play against scott stevens...

Still a lot of questions about how that rule will really work. Mirtle has said he's going to wait till he gets more info because the descriptions don't make a lot of sense. For example, as it is described, Nashville would get a $30M cap hit if Weber retires one year early.
- Canada Cup

Bwa ha ha ha ha!

My guess is that the deep thinkers making up the CBA never thought about all the scenarios.

Wouldn't that be great to see?

Although I'm guessing they would just keep him on the roster - don't know if there is any rule that you have to actually hang around the team.