Of course he did. He had nowhere else to go. When rats are backed into a corner, they attack. It was my fault. I surrounded him with common sense and intelligence, it was his only escape plan.
- systemtool

Then shut the (frank) up and stop replying to my posts, you cum towel.
- systemtool

You should read his posts. Its excellent stuff.

Did you know that athletes dont decline in their mid 30s? Its just a Leaf fan myth.
- systemtool

drivel

Remember all those years ago when the leafs were old and people complained about it and wanted a younger team. Now they are young and they want to blow it up and get old again.
- burn

Its insane. Its like nobody learned anything.

You would think the Kane, Toews, Malkin, Crosby, Staal, Ward, Kopitar, Quick examples would be what people would look up to.

you're attacking each other now!

Worst case scenario is Luongo retiring at 39 or 40 and the Leafs incurring a $2 million and change cap hit for a retired player for the following three or four years. Best case is Luongo performing well until retirement at age 41 and only costing $1.3 million on the cap for two more years.
- Fruitcakenipple

Uh, No.

Worst case scenario is that he does not return to the form of his late 20's. There is EVERY reason to believe that.

The Leafs do not make the playoffs, or don't make any noise if they squeak in.

The Leafs have tied up 5+ more million in cap space at a time when other teams may have to unload decent players.

He doesn't retire and you eat that cap space for the next 7 years on a goalie who maybe isn't even playing on your NHL team anymore OR... he does retire and you eat another couple million in cap space for multi years of his retirement.

Remember, that 2+ or 5+ million will be for multiple years and it will hurt in a market for Free Agents that is always competitive.

What does Luongo *really* get for us now? A cup?

... or does he really just make sure we get a WORSE draft pick?

This is the exact crap the Leafs have pulled that got them into this position in the first place.

you're attacking each other now!
- LeftCoaster

Yea, but the cum towel is catching everything we shoot.

Hes got that Forrest Gump eagerness to him.

You should read his posts. Its excellent stuff.

Did you know that athletes dont decline in their mid 30s? Its just a Leaf fan myth.
- systemtool

Tim Thomas got better, lost his job to a rookie too, won two Vezina's, a Conn Smythe and a Stanley Cup all after turning 35...just sayin.

Let's say Kessel doesn't see the playoffs before his contract runs out with the Leafs. Do you think he'll want to sign again in Toronto?

IMHO, getting a guy like Luongo shows to the players currently in the Leafs system that they are willing to spend in order to win. It's a positive message.
- Pecafan Fan

We need all the good players we have. Trading anyone valuable to the team makes no sense in the long run, then you add penalties in the future.

I don't want any more short sighted plans.

you're attacking each other now!
- LeftCoaster

You're next coaster. I know where you live.

Uh, No.

Worst case scenario is that he does not return to the form of his late 20's. There is EVERY reason to believe that.

The Leafs do not make the playoffs, or don't make any noise if they squeak in.

The Leafs have tied up 5+ more million in cap space at a time when other teams may have to unload decent players.

He doesn't retire and you eat that cap space for the next 7 years on a goalie who maybe isn't even in playing on your NHL team anymore OR... he does retire and you eat another couple million in cap space for multi years of his retirement.

Remember, that 2+ or 5+ million will be for multiple years and it will hurt.

What does Luongo *really* get for us now? A cup?

... or does he really just make sure we get a WORSE draft pick?

This is the exact crap the Leafs have pulled that got them into this position in the first place.
- Aetherial

Drivel





But yea.... beautiful post.

you're attacking each other now!
- LeftCoaster

Now? Are you new?

You're next coaster. I know where you live.
- AdamFrench

I'll wait for you, start driving now.

Now? Are you new?
- burn

Ya just signed up.

Drivel





But yea.... beautiful post.
- systemtool

It's going to fcuking happen. Nothing ever changes at MLSE.

Tim Thomas got better, won two Vezina's, a Conn Smythe and a Stanley Cup all after turning 35...just sayin.
- LeftCoaster

He started his career in his mid 30s

It's going to fcuking happen. Nothing ever changes at MLSE.
- Aetherial

Oh, I know it. I hate it, but I know it.

Yea, but the cum towel is catching everything we shoot.

Hes got that Forrest Gump eagerness to him.
- systemtool

He started his career in his mid 30s
- systemtool

well I wasn't wrong was I!

He started his career in his mid 30s
- systemtool

Details

well I wasn't wrong was I!
- LeftCoaster

You silly pants.

It's going to fcuking happen. Nothing ever changes at MLSE.
- Aetherial

For sure It's all but done...

Uh, No.

Worst case scenario is that he does not return to the form of his late 20's. There is EVERY reason to believe that.

The Leafs do not make the playoffs, or don't make any noise if they squeak in.

The Leafs have tied up 5+ more million in cap space at a time when other teams may have to unload decent players.

He doesn't retire and you eat that cap space for the next 7 years on a goalie who maybe isn't even playing on your NHL team anymore OR... he does retire and you eat another couple million in cap space for multi years of his retirement.

Remember, that 2+ or 5+ million will be for multiple years and it will hurt in a market for Free Agents that is always competitive.

What does Luongo *really* get for us now? A cup?

... or does he really just make sure we get a WORSE draft pick?

This is the exact crap the Leafs have pulled that got them into this position in the first place.
- Aetherial

This rational, fact filled logical post is just drivel.


We should be outbidding ourselves to get him. Should be able to get it done with gardiner, Reilly, kadri, and a few 1sts.

Shouldn't cost too much

Yea, but the cum towel is catching everything we shoot.

Hes got that Forrest Gump eagerness to him.
- systemtool

I should give you a heads up, now that the NHL season is returning, with it comes more traffic and posts/comments, the threads will now be back to being monitored by the refs more closely..

Luongo is what this team needs. He provides leadership, consistent goaltending, and instills much needed confidence our defense hasnt had in a decade. A luongo / reimer combination would be steller... one of the best duos in the league.
Luongo unquestionably makes the leafs much better and a playoff contender. Im sick of the leafs missing the playoffs... rebuilding is over. the core is in place and they must gain playoff experience and a winning mentallity.
I would like to know full details of the buyout clause before making a trade. I heard it takes affect at the end of this season and end of next season? If this is the case i 100% make the trade. A buyout of Lu after two seasons would pay for itself practically just through playoff revenue... And if not it'll just be less money the leafs give to profit sharing anyways. If the leafs get two buyouts they should use them. Komi has 1 year left after this season. Maybe JVR is a bust (doubtful) but who else would this buyout be used for that helps the leafs more than Lu?