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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 7 @ 6:34 PM ET
I wonder if the Flyers would have any interest in guys like Campoli, Foster, or even Randy Jones. Those guys fit the bill for what the Flyers lack much more than the fringe 6/7 guys like Gervais/Lilja.

The blueline depth is compromised with MAB, and Gusty sidelined long term.

- PLindbergh31


Seems to me that it would be adding more 3rd pair defenseman to the already formidable collection they already have,
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 7 @ 6:35 PM ET
Campoli and Jones fit what they need better than Foster. Foster's not especially mobile, but he's got size and a good shot. Gervais is similar to Jones and Campoli, perhaps not as high a ceiling as them, but not significantly worse.

The trouble is, if a team has to rely on Campoli, Jones or Gervais for more than 15 minutes or so, night in and night out, they're in trouble

- Jsaquella


Yep. Foster isn't mobile or a puck mover per say, but he's got that bomb from the point.

I think concerns about the defense core are very legitimate. Schenn adapting to a new city, Meszaros coming back from a major injury probably won't be back to normal until next season. So many variables in a shortened season. One 5 game losing streak can cripple a teams playoff chances. I really have no idea what to expect. I can see this team being in the 4-5 seed range, or missing the playoffs.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Jan 7 @ 6:37 PM ET
Sabres , Flyers going to make a deal so Buffalo can unload some dmen and for the Flyers to address an area of need ?

I would not be surprised.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 7 @ 6:37 PM ET
I wonder if the Flyers would have any interest in guys like Campoli, Foster, or even Randy Jones. Those guys fit the bill for what the Flyers lack much more than the fringe 6/7 guys like Gervais/Lilja.

The blueline depth is compromised with MAB, and Gusty sidelined long term.

- PLindbergh31


I think I just lost a testicle...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 7 @ 6:37 PM ET
Ive seen enough of randy jones for a lifetime. The fact he cant keep a job is telling to me.
- Flyersgod


The pickings are slim in terms of free agents that could come in a fill holes with MAB & Gustafsson out indefinitely.

The only other name that has any appeal is former Flyer Mark Eaton, who is a steady third pair guy when he's healthy. Unfortunately, he's healthy about as often as Guns N Roses releases albums.

Brett Clark and Mike Mottau are similar guys, but who are older and closer to the downside than Campoli & Jones.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 7 @ 6:38 PM ET
Seems to me that it would be adding more 3rd pair defenseman to the already formidable collection they already have,
- MJL


If Meszaros isn't ready to start the season, coupled with MAB and Gustafsson being injured this defense core is very thin. That will have both Gervais and Lilja in the lineup, and an injury away from having a kid like Manning called up.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 7 @ 6:39 PM ET
I think I just lost a testicle...
- flyer_nutter


In all honesty Peanut, I think I would rather have Jones than both Lilja and Gervais.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Jan 7 @ 6:40 PM ET
In all honesty Peanut, I think I would rather have Jones than both Lilja and Gervais.
- PLindbergh31

Couldn't we just throw Prongers jock strap on the ice every other shift instead?

That would be much easier to watch then Randy Jones...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 7 @ 6:41 PM ET
Sabres , Flyers going to make a deal so Buffalo can unload some dmen and for the Flyers to address an area of need ?

I would not be surprised.

- BuffaloHardHat


Any players in particular?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 7 @ 6:41 PM ET
Yep. Foster isn't mobile or a puck mover per say, but he's got that bomb from the point.

I think concerns about the defense core are very legitimate. Schenn adapting to a new city, Meszaros coming back from a major injury probably won't be back to normal until next season. So many variables in a shortened season. One 5 game losing streak can cripple a teams playoff chances. I really have no idea what to expect. I can see this team being in the 4-5 seed range, or missing the playoffs.

- PLindbergh31


I like the idea of Kimmo playing with Schenn. Ive always been for young kids with solid potential being paired with top veterans. I think Schenn really lacked that in Toronto.

Anyway while I agree with you about the concerns with the d-men, in the end I think no matter where this team goes will depend on Bryzgalov.

I kind of dont expect them to win with the current group, but that "perfect" squad doesnt happen too often. We will see. If they can stay healthy, I think they will be givign us some entertainment come playoff time.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 7 @ 6:42 PM ET
In all honesty Peanut, I think I would rather have Jones than both Lilja and Gervais.
- PLindbergh31


Jones never recovered from his hip injury. Gervais and Lilja are both serviceable.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 7 @ 6:42 PM ET
Yep. Foster isn't mobile or a puck mover per say, but he's got that bomb from the point.

I think concerns about the defense core are very legitimate. Schenn adapting to a new city, Meszaros coming back from a major injury probably won't be back to normal until next season. So many variables in a shortened season. One 5 game losing streak can cripple a teams playoff chances. I really have no idea what to expect. I can see this team being in the 4-5 seed range, or missing the playoffs.

- PLindbergh31


It's a crapshoot right now. Not only are teams dealing with injuries, but conditioning from guy to guy is unknown. Reporters in Boston were tweeting that Milan Lucic showed up looking like he did carbo loads and had to keep stopping to catch his breath during the loose drills.

If it's me, I plug in Schenn with Timonen. Let him go out and play his game with the steady veteran and feel his way. Coburn & Grossmann can be a very solid pair, even though neither is a noted puck mover. Meszaros, even at 80%, could be a real asset.

Even with all that, I'd love another mobile guy that can move the puck. I'd love to see them add a vet like Roman Hamrlik to solidify things.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jan 7 @ 6:43 PM ET
I'd suffer through the old Spectrum scoreboard if they'd rid the game of all that mess.
- mayorofangrytown

I need to head downstairs so I can post the applause gif in response to this excellent post.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 7 @ 6:43 PM ET
If Meszaros isn't ready to start the season, coupled with MAB and Gustafsson being injured this defense core is very thin. That will have both Gervais and Lilja in the lineup, and an injury away from having a kid like Manning called up.
- PLindbergh31


I'm fine with Gervais and Lilja in the lineup. Injuries happen.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Jan 7 @ 6:43 PM ET
I like the idea of Kimmo playing with Schenn. Ive always been for young kids with solid potential being paired with top veterans. I think Schenn really lacked that in Toronto.

Anyway while I agree with you about the concerns with the d-men, in the end I think no matter where this team goes will depend on Bryzgalov.

I kind of dont expect them to win with the current group, but that "perfect" squad doesnt happen too often. We will see. If they can stay healthy, I think they will be givign us some entertainment come playoff time.

- flyer_nutter


I'm with you on that.

I almost wish our management would allow us to suck once in a while instead of trading away picks and young players to just get us into the playoffs.

We draft very well in the first round, something i wouldn't mind seeing us do more often!
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 7 @ 6:44 PM ET
In all honesty Peanut, I think I would rather have Jones than both Lilja and Gervais.
- PLindbergh31


I think the whole thing is picking your poison to be honest.

If not the Flyers, who do you think takes the cup?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 7 @ 6:45 PM ET
I think the whole thing is picking your poison to be honest.

If not the Flyers, who do you think takes the cup?

- flyer_nutter


The Rangers, on paper, look the toughest.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 7 @ 6:45 PM ET
It's a crapshoot right now. Not only are teams dealing with injuries, but conditioning from guy to guy is unknown. Reporters in Boston were tweeting that Milan Lucic showed up looking like he did carbo loads and had to keep stopping to catch his breath during the loose drills.

If it's me, I plug in Schenn with Timonen. Let him go out and play his game with the steady veteran and feel his way. Coburn & Grossmann can be a very solid pair, even though neither is a noted puck mover. Meszaros, even at 80%, could be a real asset.

Even with all that, I'd love another mobile guy that can move the puck. I'd love to see them add a vet like Roman Hamrlik to solidify things.

- Jsaquella


Who could become a real suprise agitator in the playoffs.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Jan 7 @ 6:46 PM ET
Any players in particular?
- MJL

Leopold
Weber
Regehr
Sekera
Sulzer
Brennan
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 7 @ 6:47 PM ET
The Rangers, on paper, look the toughest.
- Jsaquella


I think the time is finally right for the Canucks.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 7 @ 6:47 PM ET
Leopold
Weber
Regehr
Sekera
Sulzer
Brennan

- BuffaloHardHat


Nobody on that list floats my boat. Which player on the Flyers interest you?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 7 @ 6:51 PM ET
Leopold
Weber
Regehr
Sekera
Sulzer
Brennan

- BuffaloHardHat


Always liked Sekera. Regehr has just lost too much gas for my liking.

As I stated before I dont see the Flyers beating the top teams in the playoffs. I would use this season to further evaluate guys like Meszaros, Brayden Schenn, Cooties, Read, Simmonds, Bryzgalov and Voracek. Where they fit in long term and if the team should keep them in the mix. Or buyout/trade them to improve the back end.

I rather keep all available assets and improve in the summer. To win a cup the Flyers will need another 1-2 top end guys on the blueline (depending on Kimmo).

Improve in the summer, and set a real blueprint for the futurre. That would have been done if the team got Shea Weber but what is done is done.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 7 @ 6:52 PM ET
It's a crapshoot right now. Not only are teams dealing with injuries, but conditioning from guy to guy is unknown. Reporters in Boston were tweeting that Milan Lucic showed up looking like he did carbo loads and had to keep stopping to catch his breath during the loose drills.

If it's me, I plug in Schenn with Timonen. Let him go out and play his game with the steady veteran and feel his way. Coburn & Grossmann can be a very solid pair, even though neither is a noted puck mover. Meszaros, even at 80%, could be a real asset.

Even with all that, I'd love another mobile guy that can move the puck. I'd love to see them add a vet like Roman Hamrlik to solidify things.

- Jsaquella


Absolutely. I think the Flyers had 11 players playing overseas, so they should bring some momentum into the season. That definitely helps. At least guys have some games under their belts.

Any predictions or forecasts before the season starts really don't mean a thing, especially under these circumstances.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jan 7 @ 6:52 PM ET
Jesus, the lockout's been over for 36 hours and it's already getting stupid in here
- Jsaquella

Amen
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 7 @ 6:54 PM ET
Absolutely. I think the Flyers had 11 players playing overseas, so they should bring some momentum into the season. That definitely helps. At least guys have some games under their belts.

Any predictions or forecasts before the season starts really don't mean a thing, especially under these circumstances.

- PLindbergh31


How is life shaking good sir?
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