I'm not sure if I could HATE Subban any more than I already do but if he puts on a Flyers jersey we will find out. The Pens should sign Jamie Benn!!! Screw it we had a lockout but now we're going to start throwing money at players again!!! I love the NHL
- lloyd095

just curious, why do you hate subban? because he chirps back at the mouthy Richards who have been in the league longer than him? mike richards? joffrey lupul? those female doges and the other ones who decided to hate him in the league are just mad they don't get to treat rookies like poop.

Also, this 'old boys club' poop the players try and pull is the same crap that had this lockout extended so long. Hamrlik speaks his mind and suddenly his team rep 'doesn't know if he can trust him on the ice anymore'.

the situations seem unrelated, but its that whole mob mentality that is complete garbage. I hope Subban skates around giving every one of these tenured bumholes the finger every game.

the kid plays good, he's exciting, he has a personality (as opposed to the pseudo scripted 'uhh, we have to give it our all.. uhhh.. its a team game.. uhhh .. just got to get shots on net.. uhhh' interviews all the other dummies are always giving). And if he doesnt respect people like 'blindside headshot on david booth, party all night and forget team rules' Richards, good for him.

..isn't it nice not to be talk about HRR and escrow etc again?

I said the same thing earlier. It wasn't but a couple of years ago he was considered one of the top goalies in the league. If not for the numbers on his contract i would love to have him as Marty's replacement in Newark, once marty hangs them up.
- WayneZ

oh for sure.. im a fan of carey price, so i kind of want him to stay on the habs for a long time and think he's great. recognizing that bias.. if Price wasnt there, i would for sure want luongo

Burke will be pissed . This is going to even out the playing field
- VANTEL

gillis will be happy. maybe now he has a chance at building a team that isnt softer than kleenex.

just curious, why do you hate subban? because he chirps back at the mouthy Richards who have been in the league longer than him? mike richards? joffrey lupul? those female doges and the other ones who decided to hate him in the league are just mad they don't get to treat rookies like poop.

Also, this 'old boys club' poop the players try and pull is the same crap that had this lockout extended so long. Hamrlik speaks his mind and suddenly his team rep 'doesn't know if he can trust him on the ice anymore'.

the situations seem unrelated, but its that whole mob mentality that is complete garbage. I hope Subban skates around giving every one of these tenured bumholes the finger every game.

the kid plays good, he's exciting, he has a personality (as opposed to the pseudo scripted 'uhh, we have to give it our all.. uhhh.. its a team game.. uhhh .. just got to get shots on net.. uhhh' interviews all the other dummies are always giving). And if he doesnt respect people like 'blindside headshot on david booth, party all night and forget team rules' Richards, good for him.

..isn't it nice not to be talk about HRR and escrow etc again?
- zedniksghost

Mike Richards is a terrible hockey player. Subban has nothing to learn from a scrub like that. I agree, there's no need to respect your fellow competitor.

So when is Subban's next scheduled scrap in practice with his teammates again.

Go Habs!

Mike Richards is a terrible hockey player. Subban has nothing to learn from a scrub like that. I agree, there's no need to respect your fellow competitor.

So when is Subban's next scheduled scrap in practice with his teammates again.

Go Habs!
- Wodanaz

don't be foolish, that happens on most if not all NHL teams, between stars and scrubs alike. If you want, i can look up some examples for you.

don't be foolish, that happens on most if not all NHL teams, between stars and scrubs alike. If you want, i can look up some examples for you.


- zedniksghost

Not sure why people think players have to be likable to be valuable. I would be hard pressed to name a more clutch post season performer than Claude Lemieux, and he was one of the most hated dudes in the league.

Mike Richards is a terrible hockey player. Subban has nothing to learn from a scrub like that. I agree, there's no need to respect your fellow competitor.

So when is Subban's next scheduled scrap in practice with his teammates again.

Go Habs!
- Wodanaz

also, Mike Richards can play the game, and he's good at it. but he's no moral authority, not by a long shot. If he were giving him pointers on how to score goals or something it would be different.

But when Mike Richards starts talking about 'respect' and other players' lack of it? yeah, tell the hypocrite to shut the hell up.

don't be foolish, that happens on most if not all NHL teams, between stars and scrubs alike. If you want, i can look up some examples for you.


- zedniksghost

Bless his soul, but thats because one of them was a drug addict goon. I dont think its fair to be calling Subban a drug addicted goon.

don't be foolish, that happens on most if not all NHL teams, between stars and scrubs alike. If you want, i can look up some examples for you.
- zedniksghost

Can you look up recurring examples?

Listen, kids got all the talent in the world, but he is a head case (hopefully only in his youth). You will never hear of me defending a King's player when they do something that falls outside of my ideal realm of hockey ethics. Brown was may favorite player until I saw him take a dive a couple years back. Doughty is a whiner when the refs don't see things his way...ect. I just hope that maturation remedies these habits.

The same goes for Subban. I really wanna like the kid. I really do as he is an awesome young talent, but he has to earn my respect first.

I believe my opinion on this matter is shared by his fellow competitors.

Not sure why people think players have to be likable to be valuable. I would be hard pressed to name a more clutch post season performer than Claude Lemieux, and he was one of the most hated dudes in the league.
- WayneZ

totally agree. ulf sammualson comes to mind as well. not necassarily in the 'clutch playoff performer' catagory, but as hated, but good player. to a lesser extent, kasperitis.

i'll even go as far as to say, even though i cant stand either marchand or lucic, they are effective. what i don't like is the hypocracy of people who think antics like marchand punching people in teh face after a whistle is 'good hockey', yet subban telling mike richards to 'go (frank) himself' or whatever was some grevious insult to the name of hockey.

totally agree. ulf sammualson comes to mind as well. not necassarily in the 'clutch playoff performer' catagory, but as hated, but good player. to a lesser extent, kasperitis.

i'll even go as far as to say, even though i cant stand either marchand or lucic, they are effective. what i don't like is the hypocracy of people who think antics like marchand punching people in teh face after a whistle is 'good hockey', yet subban telling mike richards to 'go (frank) himself' or whatever was some grevious insult to the name of hockey.
- zedniksghost

Habs should sign Avery.

Can you look up recurring examples?

Listen, kids got all the talent in the world, but he is a head case (hopefully only in his youth). You will never hear of me defending a King's player when they do something that falls outside of my ideal realm of hockey ethics. Brown was may favorite player until I saw him take a dive a couple years back. Doughty is a whiner when the refs don't see things his way...ect. I just hope that maturation remedies these habits.

The same goes for Subban. I really wanna like the kid. I really do as he is an awesome young talent, but he has to earn my respect first.

I believe my opinion on this matter is shared by his fellow competitors.
- Wodanaz

alright, i can accept that. but i also think it is likely more common elsewhere than you think. love them or hate them, montreal is under a microscope. and we'd be more likely to hear of it from there than elsewhere.

i can respect the fact you stick to your guns concerning players from your own team though. kudos.

Bless his soul, but thats because one of them was a drug addict goon. I dont think its fair to be calling Subban a drug addicted goon.
- systemtool

I wouldn't go as far and call probert a goon. he could play some hockey as well.

I wouldn't go as far and call probert a goon. he could play some hockey as well.
- Vukota

Its what he was. He could play some, but that was his primary role. More specifically, when his substance abuse spiraled out of control.

also, Mike Richards can play the game, and he's good at it. but he's no moral authority, not by a long shot. If he were giving him pointers on how to score goals or something it would be different.

But when Mike Richards starts talking about 'respect' and other players' lack of it? yeah, tell the hypocrite to shut the hell up.
- zedniksghost

If you are referring to one hit, then fine. On the other hand, plenty of his current teammates on the Kings (after only one season) have spoken endlessly about his leadership and respect for the game. Since he came to L.A., he has displayed nothing but sportsmanship and team mentality. Stevey Y seemed to agree with them about this also.

I, like most Philly fans, have come to love his display of heart on the ice.

totally agree. ulf sammualson comes to mind as well. not necassarily in the 'clutch playoff performer' catagory, but as hated, but good player. to a lesser extent, kasperitis.

i'll even go as far as to say, even though i cant stand either marchand or lucic, they are effective. what i don't like is the hypocracy of people who think antics like marchand punching people in teh face after a whistle is 'good hockey', yet subban telling mike richards to 'go (frank) himself' or whatever was some grevious insult to the name of hockey.
- zedniksghost

(frank)in' piece of poop

(frank)in' piece of poop
- Rayven

*searches frantically for a cam neely/ulf video to post in revenge*

If you are referring to one hit, then fine. On the other hand, plenty of his current teammates on the Kings (after only one season) have spoken endlessly about his leadership and respect for the game. Since he came to L.A., he has displayed nothing but sportsmanship and team mentality. Stevey Y seemed to agree with them about this also.

I, like most Philly fans, have come to love his display of heart on the ice.
- Wodanaz

I think the trade made him grow up pretty quick. He had it pretty good in Philly and I bet he didn't expect to be traded.

If you are referring to one hit, then fine. On the other hand, plenty of his current teammates on the Kings (after only one season) have spoken endlessly about his leadership and respect for the game. Since he came to L.A., he has displayed nothing but sportsmanship and team mentality. Stevey Y seemed to agree with them about this also.

I, like most Philly fans, have come to love his display of heart on the ice.
- Wodanaz

i get that, and i would argue the same in Subban's defense. i do think a lot of it boils down to opinion, and perhaps overexposure. Asshattery aside, Subban should know better, especially from a PR standpoint. .. if he cared. what either or any of us thought.

bottom line, i like him, many do not. GM's and Players don't give a flying crap about what we think anyway.

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I think the trade made him grow up pretty quick. He had it pretty good in Philly and I bet he didn't expect to be traded.
- niedermayer27

I have more respect for Richards than i do for Carter. That guy is an absolute joke.

I think the trade made him grow up pretty quick. He had it pretty good in Philly and I bet he didn't expect to be traded.
- niedermayer27

You are probably right, although he didn't get named captain in Philly, or get awarded a spot on the Canadian national team by shear luck.

Long story short, he is the ideal 2nd line pivot on the Kings.

I have more respect for Richards than i do for Carter. That guy is an absolute joke.
- WayneZ

I have no opinion of Carter. Hopefully he fits in long term. God knows his contract is eternal. We'll see.

You are probably right, although he didn't get named captain in Philly, or get awarded a spot on the Canadian national team by shear luck.

Long story short, he is the ideal 2nd line pivot on the Kings.
- Wodanaz

ARGH! 16 hours, and already everybody is saying "pivot" instead of centre.