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DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jan 7 @ 12:15 PM ET
Interesting. This has to hurt Luongo's trade value.
- EKolb13



I didn't think about that but you're right! Life just got more interesting for the Canucks!

fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jan 7 @ 12:26 PM ET
And Rosenblum wasted zero time publishing another trade Kane article.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jan 7 @ 12:27 PM ET
Exactly the kind of deal a bean counter by trade makes, and have made - over the hill, comes cheap for the name he brings, ends up old, slow, and injured and does nothing. BTW John great job on all the prospect scouting reports you've posted here in december - it was my only hockey fix. That plus the surprise of seeing the WJC on NHL Network on dish 885. Didn;t know I had that channel in Chicago.
- busmaster


Couldn't agree more on Jason Arnott - he's a dog that doesn't hunt anymore.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jan 7 @ 12:46 PM ET
I didn't think about that but you're right! Life just got more interesting for the Canucks!


- DarthKane


With this, the buyouts, the cap reduction next season and all the rest of the stuff that has been discussed there can't be a GM in their right mind willing to trade for Luongo.

Gillis is going to have to buy him out this summer.

Sucks to be them.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jan 7 @ 1:04 PM ET
And Rosenblum wasted zero time publishing another trade Kane article.
- fattybeef


He doesn't like him and probably never will.
Beaver-Warrior
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jan 7 @ 1:04 PM ET
And Rosenblum wasted zero time publishing another trade Kane article.
- fattybeef


I saw the link on the Trib home page. Didn't bother to read it figuring it yet another of his mindless rants.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jan 7 @ 1:15 PM ET
I saw this over in The 300 Level. It's a calculation of Hossa's cap hit using the cap benefit recapture formula, if he retired.

http://300level.net/?p=3882
nelli312
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jan 7 @ 1:18 PM ET
So does Raffi Torres still have to serve regular season games in the press box once the season starts? I assume so, but I'm curious if anyone knows the answer to that, and how many games he has left to serve?

Living in Vegas now, and I'm hoping to see the Hawks play in Phoenix, and would love to see Bollig give Torres the beating he so richly deserves! Welcome back boys!!!
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jan 7 @ 1:20 PM ET
So does Raffi Torres still have to serve regular season games in the press box once the season starts? I assume so, but I'm curious if anyone knows the answer to that, and how many games he has left to serve?

Living in Vegas now, and I'm hoping to see the Hawks play in Phoenix, and would love to see Bollig give Torres the beating he so richly deserves! Welcome back boys!!!

- nelli312


Amen!
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jan 7 @ 1:21 PM ET
With this, the buyouts, the cap reduction next season and all the rest of the stuff that has been discussed there can't be a GM in their right mind willing to trade for Luongo.Gillis is going to have to buy him out this summer.

Sucks to be them.

- EKolb13


Welcome to Chicago Lu.

Been a while Eli, had to do it. Hope I am wrong
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jan 7 @ 1:29 PM ET
Welcome to Chicago Lu.

Been a while Eli, had to do it. Hope I am wrong

- ikeane


I'd welcome Luongo to Chicago...after Gillis buys him out and he signs a reasonable contract with the Hawks.
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jan 7 @ 1:42 PM ET
I'd welcome Luongo to Chicago...after Gillis buys him out and he signs a reasonable contract with the Hawks.
- EKolb13


I would take that deal every day
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jan 7 @ 1:43 PM ET
I'd welcome Luongo to Chicago...after Gillis buys him out and he signs a reasonable contract with the Hawks.
- EKolb13


I'd have no problem with Luongo either, for the right price. But I think Crawford will be the man between the pipes. While I may be in the minority I think Crawford will bounce back with a strong season. There will be so many story lines when the season starts, and while our goaltending will be one of them there will be some others to take some pressure of Corey. My prediction is that Crawford bounces back to his 10/11 form.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jan 7 @ 1:45 PM ET
Until this thing is ratified I still have cautious optimism as I believe Ogi stated, lets not forget who we are dealing with here.

From there....I still see way too many question marks to make me think this a lock to make the playoffs, and do damage. The Eastern conference teams have a HUGE advantage travel wise...Train rides, short flights will all weigh in heavily. The western conference is a flight EVERY time and sometimes cross country. That will wear down when you are playing back to back games with a shortened schedule.

We still have to see if Crawford can come back or his a true AHL goaltender that most of us feared.

-Still need size.
-Still need a 2nd line center
-The depth unlike any other year will be tested as the condensed schedule will wear guys out...Toews, Sharp, Hossa, Kane can't score every night. Who steps up when they don't?
-You also have a moronic GM who has managed to give out NTCs to Oduya, Montador, Seabrook, Keith, Rozsival, so that leaves Leddy, Brookbank, and Hammer as your only chips to get a center. Once Hammer is dealt, who is going to play ACTUAL defense on this team outside of Seabrook? They won't deal Leddy, and Sheldon Brookbank has as much value as John Scott.

I believe a 7th or 8th place finish is possible, but to do that injuries have to be avoided, Crawford has to bounce back...BIG, special teams have to be 100 times better (Mike Kitchen is STILL employed.. ), and somebody has to take the next step to be a threat in the bottom 6.

This could BE the year the bottom falls out, I hope I am dead wrong, but if it happens it won't surprise me and all the love, blackhawk tv gimmicks, etc all come to screaching halt when you aren't relevant...That is assuming the casual fan even pays to show up after the most idiotic work stoppage in the history of professional sports.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jan 7 @ 2:07 PM ET
New JJ blog is up.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jan 8 @ 9:55 AM ET
Thoughts on Jason Arnott on a 1-year deal to add some C depth (NHL-ready C depth) to an organization sorely lacking it?
- Hawksfan37


I have friends who say he is jerk...
but I certainly feel he is one jerk who weakens the Blues by his absence.

I have to agree that Stan has to be on the lookout for a NHL centre, and just let the futures develop.

But all this continued talk about "second line centre" amuses me...they are one hit away from lossing their franchise centre in any game, in any season for the rest of Tazer's contract. I am not saying it because I like it, wish it, but you cannot ignore it.

But if you look up and down the NHL rosters, there simply isn't a surplus available, unless you make a blockbuster deal, or sudden;y one of the early choices like Strome and Huberdeau waltz into Isles & Panther camps and TAKE away a centre position.

I really think the plan in both cities is to start them as wings, because they skate well enough to become stop/start players as well as the can play fluid always moving centreman.
Then I take a step back, see that Huberdeau wilted, disapppeared and disappointed as a World Junior wing, and the highly skilled shooter Strome plays undisplined against under twenties.

I have combed the NHL rosters for some time and the guy I liked more than a season ago, Frans Niesen of the Islanders had a 17 goal season and probably pumped his value past the point where he could be acquired without significant trade payout.
He's about 28, and really good with the puck, and has good touch, instincts, and sniperablity. More of a finese player, but certainly no wussy.
But again there would have to be a total Brooklyn Isle commit to Ryan Strome as a major league centre position for his to even be thought of as a chip they could trade.

The same concept of "some young rookies steps up before the vet centre becomes a trading chip" applies to Florida.

and also to Ottawa.
Mika Zibanejad would HAVE to be ready for prime time. (They already told him to not got to the world Juniors so he could play minor pro and develop.)
The Senators plan on Jakob Silfverberg to PLAY here and play on the top two as a RW.
Both Swededs are at Binghamton (AHL) but the almost three year older Silfverberg is leading the team in scoring and Zibanejad has ONE goal.

I just don't see JJ suggestion of Zack Smith for hawk players as a possibly, since that weakens THEIR middle much more than one of our defenseman strengthens their back end.

The Hawks purposefully brought in to penalty-killing defenseman in Brookbank and Rozsival for one reason: they take away much of the duties from the others.

The FIVE others get to play even strength more.

Whomever suggested the hawks suit up seven defenders a game may be on the right track. If they don't get fair and eaqual return on any of the group, I don't suppose they are bargain basementing them.

Long term they have to be concerned about developing a top line centre.
Teraveinen (a year younger than most participants) played Left wing and a few shifts at RW when they double shifted wing Armia & the later injured centre Miro Aaltonen.

(the younger Granlund also played wing in his tourney and was then eleveated to centre.)

But at this juncture TT is a good stop start. reposition, fluid mover, but not a guy who ever plans to go into the corners to win puck battles.
Don't get me wrong I saw him strip both US & canada defenseman of pucks they were trying to pass out, but it wasn't with physiclal engagement.
McNeill has the physical part but they hands may be along time coming, and Danault is a defense first centreman.

Whether you play Beach, Saad, or older Hayes at pivot to see them as more "motion players" as opposed to wings, there doesn't seem like the Toews replacement guy is in the system, just slowly developing.

I think whenever the chance permits they will take a run at Ryan Getzlaf.
They will ask, wait, ask again later...no dire need in Bowman's tone.

But whether you see Getzlaf as declining, full of two plus seasons of barin farts, he still is you best alternative to a long term fill if the the worst happens to Jonathan Toews.

I really belive the Cap will never be an issues on acquiring him. They will just make space.







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