Ok - find a replacement issue then. I needs me some arguing.


Edit - Pen is is here. We're covered.
- Canada Cup

It's assinine to assume that's why Fehr called for another vote on DOI.
- Pen15

Just coincidence that things went off rails the second doi deadline passed.


Tsn legal analyst said this would happen ( NHL goes hardball second deadline passes)

I don't see a fit re, kulemin trade. Not the time to trade him now.
- burn

Agreed

as i said.. there was no media scrum

therefore.. most of these guys were probably sitting in their underwear in their hotel room eating pizza and tweeting.

anyways, whatever.. nothing major happened regardless.
- Dozzer

end the madness
end the lockout

Just coincidence that things went off rails the second doi deadline passed.


Tsn legal analyst said this would happen ( NHL goes hardball second deadline passes)
- burn

Who said the NHL is going hardball? It's a (frank)ing negotiation....and they're STILL negotiating.

EDIT: Nothing has gone off the rails.

as i said.. there was no media scrum

therefore.. most of these guys were probably sitting in their underwear in their hotel room eating pizza and tweeting.

anyways, whatever.. nothing major happened regardless.
- Dozzer

No meeting, which is what you said happened. Are they wrong?

Ok - find a replacement issue then. I needs me some arguing.


Edit - Pen is is here. We're covered.
- Canada Cup

Hater.

Agreed
- JIMI-JAMES

Franson + Kulemin 4 Eberele and im in

Because he's a hab's fan?
- burn

I didn't even think of that! Good point

Is it really working in Baseball?
Guess how many high payroll teams made the playoffs last season?
The same way you did prior to the cap.....or maybe even have a soft cap. I dont have a detailed answer for that...I just know based on the data...salary caps dont alway add competitive balance.
- Fakepartofme

yeah, but the money generated by MLB makes the NHL revenue look laughable

i mean the bottom teams are still paying out 55million in salaries

this is nowhere near the case for the NHL.. so you cant compare the two leagues.. they arent even close when it comes to money

Who said the NHL is going hardball? It's a (frank)ing negotiation....and they're STILL negotiating.
- Pen15

Changing definition of hhr 3 months after agreed to?


It's a good thing they're negotiating.... Been waiting for the league to for over 3 months

Just coincidence that things went off rails the second doi deadline passed.


Tsn legal analyst said this would happen ( NHL goes hardball second deadline passes)
- burn

Oh that's totally what happened.
Once the deadline passed, Bettman went back to being a F@ck.

Who said the NHL is going hardball? It's a (frank)ing negotiation....and they're STILL negotiating.

EDIT: Nothing has gone off the rails.
- Pen15

Days of progress followed by no meetings (because of this change). Smoothly?

No meeting, which is what you said happened. Are they wrong?
- burn

who the hell knows?

i take anything i read in the media with a grain of salt.

if you are asking me what i believe its this:

i believe the "bad feelings" story is a poop story generated by the media and has been over exaggerated big time.

thats all i am trying to say here.

Changing definition of hhr 3 months after agreed to?

It's a good thing they're negotiating.... Been waiting for the league to for over 3 months
- burn

Yes. From what I can gather these negotiations are about give and take, and each package presented will have varying degrees of wins and losses for both sides.

The NHL is well within their right to change anything that hasn't been signed off yet - HRR included.

Most importantly, your assumption that this has derailed negotiations is flat out incorrect.

And I'm not even going to get into your last comment, because that'll open up a big can of worms.

C'mon Bixll, did you just give them both a timeout?
- The Law

I sure did.. And, they deserve it..

Oh that's totally what happened.
Once the deadline passed, Bettman went back to being a F@ck.
- Fakepartofme

Tsn legal analyst called it.

Hater.
- Pen15

No at all. I love your ..................



Ok. Guilty as charged

Who said the NHL is going hardball? It's a (frank)ing negotiation....and they're STILL negotiating.

EDIT: Nothing has gone off the rails.
- Pen15

When you start to change things that have already been negotiated and previously agreed to you are trying to win not trying to get a deal done.

I don't see a fit re, kulemin trade. Not the time to trade him now.
- burn

Agreed, that's why I don't think it will happen. I believe the rumor indicated that they showed interest and the Leafs said "no thanks"

Days of progress followed by no meetings (because of this change). Smoothly?
- burn

Show me where either side has said that progress has slowed due to that minor change...

Taking your personal bias and speculation and trying to spin it as fact does not make it fact.

Days of progress followed by no meetings (because of this change). Smoothly?
- burn

pretending to know why anything is happening is assumptive and arrogant burn.

nobody knows why they arent meeting, it could be for a variety of reasons.. but it seems you are buying into this the owners are sheisty (and they are, dont get me wrong) ejaculation of a news story

Is it really working in Baseball?
Guess how many high payroll teams made the playoffs last season?
The same way you did prior to the cap.....or maybe even have a soft cap. I dont have a detailed answer for that...I just know based on the data...salary caps dont alway add competitive balance.
- Fakepartofme

Yanks, Sox, Angels, Dodgers, Rangers and Phillies are still the big dollar teams and the fav's to win it year over year. RSox took a year off to rebuild. The stats would still show some (alot) of significance between payroll and wins.

Baseball, soccer, bball certainly. Football has a really nice revenue sharing system stemmming from its ridiculous tv deals ....that keeps the balance in the nfl. Hockey, and its cap, has to be the best balanced system in pro sports considering its lack of big dollar tv deals and reliance on gate receipts and the big local tv deals of a few teams. They have to do it to survive (as a 30 team league anyway).

yeah, but the money generated by MLB makes the NHL revenue look laughable

i mean the bottom teams are still paying out 55million in salaries

this is nowhere near the case for the NHL.. so you cant compare the two leagues.. they arent even close when it comes to money
- Dozzer

Amount of revenue doesn't matter. Point is that if you know what your doing (Matt Damon apparently revolutionized everything), a good GM can do well without money in a cap-less world.

When you start to change things that have already been negotiated and previously agreed to you are trying to win not trying to get a deal done.
- Cfser

Not at all. I can give you multiple scenarios where it would make sense to change the definition of HRR in order to compensate for something that was given up (negotiated) in a previous conversation.

Making the assumption that it's only done to win is very narrow view imo.