And I agree completely.
I said months ago, they could wipe out the season, dismantle the NHLPA and restart with scrubs or AHL'ers and NHL'ers that crossed the line...within a couple of years new talent would emerge.
But growing the fan base, the NHL doesn't hockey as the product, they sell the player as the product.
I complete agree the NHL could exist with all new players (not as it does now, but in some form)....I'm just saying even then, the PR machine would fine someone to hitch the game of hockey to, to sell to new fans.

Ok I gotta get back to work.
Good discussion though...no name calling or foolishness..
Thanks gents!
- Fakepartofme

Thats because most of us were born in the 60's or 70's..

I heard that Siberia stays cold purely to be prepared the faint chance that Freakorenko may stop by and display his divine skills. I think luck-dragons or something wakes up when he does cross-overs.

Just Eberle.
- Fakepartofme

Brandon Prust makes $2,500,000 per season FFS!!!
- Pecafan Fan

Yeah, but he works out like everyday. Tots worth it.

Can we have Ian White back please
- JIMI-JAMES

the one guy i wish we didnt get rid of

holy poop.. why are all of your arguments so black and white?

this or that?

i have already said that players like crosby help with marketing the game.. i never once denied it... not once.

what i am saying is he isnt as crucial part to the survival of the game that you guys are making him out to be
- Dozzer

Okay we agree to disagree

Okay we agree to disagree


- faceto27

NO

.......

oh wait.. right.... ok

It is easier to make that argument if you present the facts properly.

Mario starts looking for funding in 1999.
Crosby becomes Pens property in 2005.
Financing for arena arranged in 2007.
Value of Pens increases by 163%.

It would be crazy to say Crosby was only factor but he certainly contributed.
- Canada Cup

By far, the biggest factor in the increased valuation is the fact that the Penguins have an absolute sweetheart deal to play in a state of the art arena for next 30 years at the low, low price of about $4 million a year.

But taxpayer money is typically better spent on arenas and stadiums than luxuries like schools and roads.

Oh one other thing......

Has Getz been measured for his Leaf jersey yet?

He skates circles? He glides like a God coming from the sky on wings of air...and does it the whole game.
- AdamFrench

What would happen if Goderenko was trained in the off-season by St. Gary Roberts?

By far, the biggest factor in the increased valuation is the fact that the Penguins have an absolute sweetheart deal to play in a state of the art arena for next 30 years at the low, low price of about $4 million a year.

But taxpayer money is typically better spent on arenas and stadiums than luxuries like schools and roads.
- Atomic Wedgie

taxpayers didnt pay for it. the casino did.

Oh one other thing......

Has Getz been measured for his Leaf jersey yet?


- faceto27

Yes his shoulders werent big enough

Yes his shoulders werent big enough
- robin_steele264

Wheaties..

off the top of my head, they had Blake, Robitaille.
It doesn't matter who replaced him....the point is the team and league promoted them as a selling point.
Both the teams and players are equally important in selling tickets...I'm a Leaf fan...I will watch the team no matter what.....I dont know why....but I will. However the league isn't selling to me the Leafs and the leafs are not selling to me "hockey"...they are selling to me the players who suit up for the team.
Come see so and so on the leafs.That's all I'm saying.
- Fakepartofme

That doesn't make the players the product.

What would happen if Goderenko was trained in the off-season by St. Gary Roberts?
- Atomic Wedgie

Been through this.

Grigs trains Gary.

Gary returns to the NHL, bringing back scores of Gary Roberts fans who left since he retired.

Been through this.

Grigs trains Gary.

Gary returns to the NHL, bringing back scores of Gary Roberts fans who left since he retired.
- robin_steele264

thats the plan.. it should make up for all the lost revenue during the strike

the one guy i wish we didnt get rid of
- Dozzer

Why , we'd be the same.

thats the plan.. it should make up for all the lost revenue during the strike
- Dozzer

Gary Roberts IS hockey.

Gary Roberts IS hockey.
- Scabeh

Just ask Kadri.

the one guy i wish we didnt get rid of
- Dozzer

Meh.... you got Phaneuf for him and garbage.

Would you rather have White than Phaneuf? I wouldn't.

Yes his shoulders werent big enough
- robin_steele264

Because he'll have to carry the team on them! Clever, very clever.

Meh.... you got Phaneuf for him and garbage.

Would you rather have White than Phaneuf? I wouldn't.
- Scabeh

oh i know.. i wount want to renig on the deal.. just loved his stache.. can you imagine both him and brown on the ice at the same time? it would be like watching the NHL in 1983

the one guy i wish we didnt get rid of
- Dozzer

Meh...

I'd rather have Phaneuf.

Gary Roberts IS hockey.
- Scabeh

THIS!

oh i know.. i wount want to renig on the deal.. just loved his stache.. can you imagine both him and brown on the ice at the same time? it would be like watching the NHL in 1983
- Dozzer