A big name player....and Crosby.
Mario may have just retired...but his name was what was being used to sell....not the sport.
that's the point.
- Fakepartofme

My pay has too, as has yours
- Scooby_Doo

Since 1993 average pay has gone up 10 fold?


Ok Scooby.

The same 300 people that have been showing in Long Island for the past 15 years.
- bixll

The hardcore fans.....which as I've stated are not who the NHL are selling to.

Of course it's a schmoozefest made possible by the fact that Leafs have huge cache in this town.
- Canada Cup

all i am trying to say is that the brand is more important than the player when it comes to selling tickets.. players help.. no question.. but its the brand most people follow.

There I go what?
You are arguing its the sport that sells....the great one was replaced with other big name players.
- Fakepartofme

You are getting close.

You'll get it soon.... maybe.

Last time the Bulldogs played at the Bell Center, over 19 000 tickets were sold.
- Pecafan Fan

and the boxing day game at the ACC between both clubs drew just over 19,000.


so the people are there.

Keep dreaming


- faceto27

the new building was in the works since 1999

crosby became the pens property in 2005

not sure how you can make this argument that the rink was because of crosby. it most certainly wasnt.

There I go what?
You are arguing its the sport that sells....the great one was replaced with other big name players.
- Fakepartofme

Which ones. Lets be accurate.

all i am trying to say is that the brand is more important than the player when it comes to selling tickets.. players help.. no question.. but its the brand most people follow.
- Dozzer

Only for corporate...no won is talking about that.
We were talking about the fans.....the league doesn't promote teams as much as it promotes players......the product.

the new building was ion the works since 1999

crosby became the pens property in 2005

not sure how you can make this argument that the rink was because of crosby. it most certainly wasnt.
- Dozzer

Before Wayne Gretzky, the Golden Gate didn't exist!!!!

The hardcore fans.....which as I've stated are not who the NHL are selling to.
- Fakepartofme

So, someone like, my Mother-in-Law.. Non-hardcore fan. Knows 3 players in the NHL.

Only for corporate...no won is talking about that.
We were talking about the fans.....the league doesn't promote teams as much as it promotes players......the product.
- Fakepartofme

thats called a marketing tool.. not the product itself.

the product is the game. the players are great marketing tools but they arent the be all end all.

So your a Player Fan, and not a Hockay Fan. Unlike a Pecafan..totally.
- bixll

I'm a hockey fan who will watch minor and high school hockey for free, junior or Marlies for $20-50 and way too much to see the best players in the world play

Yes I already conceded that he's better than RNH now.

And the Sabres have the best prospects in history.
- robin_steele264

If the Oilers were smart, they'd figure out a deal around Yakopov, Eberle, Klefblom, 1st + + for Freakrenko. Very rarely in the game do players with that new butthole ripping capabilities come along. Start ordering the championship hats.

Before Wayne Gretzky, the Golden Gate didn't exist!!!!
- Pecafan Fan

ya lost me lol

all i am trying to say is that the brand is more important than the player when it comes to selling tickets.. players help.. no question.. but its the brand most people follow.
- Dozzer

I get it but don't agree. Brand is based on having the best

I'm a hockey fan who will watch minor and high school hockey for free, junior or Marlies for $20-50 and way too much to see the best players in the world play
- Canada Cup

So you will watch anyone play hockey..

dion: so i pinch?

borje: no, not all the time

dion: okay on the PP i pinch right?

borje: no dion, not all the time

dion: when i am killing penalties?

borje: def no! so lets recap, what did we learn today?

dion: all i know is that i should pinch

borje: goddamit dion!!!
- Dozzer

haha, nailed it

For Dion's voice, I'm visualizing Moose's voice. "Duh, stay out of Riverdale!"

If the Oilers were smart, they'd figure out a deal around Yakopov, Eberle, Klefblom, 1st + + for Freakrenko. Very rarely in the game to players with that new butthole ripping capabilities come along. Start ordering the championship hats.
- clarkysduster

Grigorenko will save the Sabres franchise.

And the NHL really.

Id pay to watch him skate the circles.

I get it but don't agree. Brand is based on having the best
- Canada Cup

But that is only an opinion.. There are always more than one brand, more than one opinion.

I get it but don't agree. Brand is based on having the best
- Canada Cup

really? a chicken mcnugget used to be supplied by Cuddy Farms. by far and away the highest tier of poultry products out there.. the business partnership fell through and now mcdonalds sources them elsewhere

do people still buy mcnuggets?

sure they do.

Which ones. Lets be accurate.
- bixll

off the top of my head, they had Blake, Robitaille.
It doesn't matter who replaced him....the point is the team and league promoted them as a selling point.
Both the teams and players are equally important in selling tickets...I'm a Leaf fan...I will watch the team no matter what.....I dont know why....but I will. However the league isn't selling to me the Leafs and the leafs are not selling to me "hockey"...they are selling to me the players who suit up for the team.
Come see so and so on the leafs.
That's all I'm saying.

haha, nailed it

For Dion's voice, I'm visualizing Moose's voice. "Duh, stay out of Riverdale!"

- clarkysduster

i just use dion's own voice lol

the new building was in the works since 1999

crosby became the pens property in 2005

not sure how you can make this argument that the rink was because of crosby. it most certainly wasnt.
- Dozzer

I didn't say the rink was built cause of Crosby. The rink is filled up cause of Crosby.

off the top of my head, they had Blake, Robitaille.
It doesn't matter who replaced him....the point is the team and league promoted them as a selling point.
Both the teams and players are equally important in selling tickets...I'm a Leaf fan...I will watch the team no matter what.....I dont know why....but I will. However the league isn't selling to me the Leafs and the leafs are not selling to me "hockey"...they are selling to me the players who suit up for the team.
Come see so and so on the leafs.
That's all I'm saying.
- Fakepartofme

by this argument you must still be a fan of guys like antropov and poni and stajan