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OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 3 @ 11:58 AM ET
I seriously doubt that. Not that they won't trade him for Galiardi but that his progression will be slow...

sources?

- mayorofangrytown


Chiarelli is a damned good GM which, to me, means:

1. Don't think the Bruins would put Hamilton in a position where he's not progressing as they like. They'll be as patient as possible and use him where they think he can succeed.
2. Even if he did progress slowly, Chiarelli is the type to know patience is best with young d-men and not trade him for some second/third liner due to be a UFA in a year.

That being said, if Hamilton played for, say, the Oilers or Flames, I could certainly see the above trade scenario playing out.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jan 3 @ 11:59 AM ET
Ok. Rumblings are there are 2 "free" buyouts for every team. Idc about all the details just tell me this: what 2 players do the Flyers buyout? Pronger is one obvious one, but who's #2? Do we buyout Bryz? But then what happens to our goalie situation? And if we buyout Danny I will seriously flip out. The guy is the best playoff performer there is.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jan 3 @ 11:59 AM ET
I haven't watched him much, but from what I saw in his WJC games, his upside seems somewhere between Gustafsson and Timonen. Smooth skater, offensively gifted, and a cannon. But he's not that big; in the Russian game, he had Yakupov stopped dead in the slot, but Yak still got a shot off by powering it through him. While he can work on building strength, I don't think he'll have Keith's physical strength. I think he projects as best a strong #3 and PP point man.
- jmatchett

I think I agree with you although I think he'll develop some strength. Honestly, I've just been looking for the quote and can't find it.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 3 @ 12:25 PM ET
I think I agree with you although I think he'll develop some strength. Honestly, I've just been looking for the quote and can't find it.
- mayorofangrytown


quick googling shows me lappy said it.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jan 3 @ 12:26 PM ET
Two words Tim freaking Thomas.
- twotoekenn


serious really???no thanks.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jan 3 @ 12:28 PM ET
Bryzgalov buyouts...are you fricking kidding me people?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 3 @ 12:29 PM ET
USA USA USA USA

USA #1
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 3 @ 12:29 PM ET
Bryzgalov buyouts...are you fricking kidding me people?
- Pixote Andolini

really do you want to deal with a headcase that couldn't crack a KHL line up?
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jan 3 @ 12:30 PM ET
why cant they just agree to buy out danny and resign him for peanuts? same with bryz?
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jan 3 @ 12:32 PM ET
why cant they just agree to buy out danny and resign him for peanuts? same with bryz?
- Philly1980



i believe there will be clause that if you buy someone out you cannot resign them....my guess...
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 3 @ 12:33 PM ET
why cant they just agree to buy out danny and resign him for peanuts? same with bryz?
- Philly1980

why can't the NHL just have a system like the NFL when it comes to contracts?
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jan 3 @ 12:34 PM ET
serious really???no thanks.
- Philly1980


I was only half kidding. I don't think bryz will be bought out. Maybe after this season if he has a poor year.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 3 @ 12:35 PM ET
Bryzgalov buyouts...are you fricking kidding me people?
- Pixote Andolini


i'm actually rather surprised at how many people are opposed to the idea. i thought it would be a slam dunk.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 3 @ 12:35 PM ET
why can't the NHL just have a system like the NFL when it comes to contracts?
- 2Real

good idea...im sure this is on the table and is what has been holding up a new deal getting done
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 3 @ 12:36 PM ET
why cant they just agree to buy out danny and resign him for peanuts? same with bryz?
- Philly1980


rule likely stipulates (like the NBA's) that bought out player cannot re-sign with team who bought him out.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 3 @ 12:37 PM ET
i'm actually rather surprised at how many people are opposed to the idea. i thought it would be a slam dunk.
- OrangeBlack27

buy him out get back bobrovsky
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 3 @ 12:38 PM ET
good idea...im sure this is on the table and is what has been holding up a new deal getting done
- Crimsoninja

the nhl players shouldn't be entitled to work
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 3 @ 12:38 PM ET
good idea...im sure this is on the table and is what has been holding up a new deal getting done
- Crimsoninja

Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 3 @ 12:38 PM ET
USA USA USA USA

USA #1

- 2Real


I said last night that the US worried me a lot because of their tender. I hope they beat Sweden and Canada beats the Russians.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 3 @ 12:39 PM ET
the nhl players shouldn't be entitled to work
- 2Real

no clue what this means
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jan 3 @ 12:41 PM ET
I haven't watched him much, but from what I saw in his WJC games, his upside seems somewhere between Gustafsson and Timonen. Smooth skater, offensively gifted, and a cannon. But he's not that big; in the Russian game, he had Yakupov stopped dead in the slot, but Yak still got a shot off by powering it through him. While he can work on building strength, I don't think he'll have Keith's physical strength. I think he projects as best a strong #3 and PP point man.
- jmatchett


If he projects as you described, that would be great. I have no problem pairing an offensive minded D-man with a stay at home guy.

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 3 @ 12:41 PM ET
no clue what this means
- Crimsoninja

read a book
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 3 @ 12:41 PM ET
read a book
- 2Real

just plowed through jurassic park. on to the lost world now
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 3 @ 12:43 PM ET
I was thinking Weber before Nashville matched :/

I agree it'd be nice to get another solid D man. Going to cost money though, and the cap is shrinking.

- eayost



Losing out on Weber still kills me.. We needed a big splash to counter the Nash to Rangers move. I don't think we are a true contender until the D gets sorted out. I like the heavy hitters we now have but Timonen is getting older. If we had kept Carle, as much as people hated him, we'd be better off, but he got over paid IMO.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 3 @ 12:45 PM ET
i'm actually rather surprised at how many people are opposed to the idea. i thought it would be a slam dunk.
- OrangeBlack27


Tell me you are being sarcastic.. lol

Pronger is a slam dunk. Bryz only makes sense if you plan to get another #1 guy immediately for cheaper. Don't see it happening.
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