Hes off by 100,000k. Dont split hairs.

Komi makes 4.5

Kostka makes .6, Holzer .575
- systemtool

3.925 isn't close enough to "close to 4" I guess.

Is Kostka or Holzer the same talent wise as Komi?? Very tough to compare a AHL defensemen to a NHL playing calibre
- faceto27

Lets put it this way. They arent worse than Komi. Holzers style is more comparable to Komi, but Kostka is probably the best overall player at this point in all their respective careers.

Is Kostka or Holzer the same talent wise as Komi?? Very tough to compare a AHL defensemen to a NHL playing calibre
- faceto27

Really??? You don't think either of them can (frank) poop up any worse than Komi?? Come on man.

3.925 isn't close enough to "close to 4" I guess.
- burn

Sadly, the difference is about 15k more than I make a year.

From what I'm seeing on Capgeek, there is really isn't a "terrible" contract that the Leafs can't deal with either because they're not overly inflated (some might argue), but even if they are, the term isn't unbearable either. If anything, Grabovski's contracts stands out the most to me, but he likely wouldn't be bought out because that contract was just signed. I doubtful Burke pulls another Ron Wilson "Christmas bonus" here.

However, Burke is a genius when it comes to trades. There are PLENTY of teams out there that have multiple buyout considerations. If the Leafs weren't going to use their buyout on a current player, there is nothing stopping Burke from acquiring one of these players for next to nothing and leveraging the Leafs' wealth with a "buyout and resign." I believe the team that buys out the player has first rights. An agreement can be put in place prior to the buyout.

In short, the player makes more money; The Leafs upgrade; Team "X" receives the cap relief they require in order to meet compliance... EVERYBODY WINS!

Book it!
- As_I_See_It

I don't think so.... if you buy out a player you cannot resign him.

I like Komi as a person. Seems genuine and a good guy deep down. I wouldnt mind him staying. I hope he does turn his career around, it seems like he works hard and really cares about the team and his performance.
- systemtool

me too.. i just think that run and gun system wilson was employing was just terrible for him.. his skill set is limited and there really was no place for it there.

a more structured defensive system should benefit komi

side note: anyone else find it amusing that wilson is still getting paid and the players arent.. i kinda do lol

I don't think so.... if you buy out a player you cannot resign him.
- burn

makes you wonder if the amnesty buyouts will have a different set of rules tho

me too.. i just think that run and gun system wilson was employing was just terrible for him.. his skill set is limited and there really was no place for it there.

a more structured defensive system should benefit komi

side note: anyone else find it amusing that wilson is still getting paid and the players arent.. i kinda do lol
- Dozzer

Very well said, I agree completely.

Deep down, just my opinion, but I think the Schenn for JVR trade was a mistake. Something tells me Schenn will be a dominant stay at home Dman while JVR amounts to nothing more than a Versteeg. Random thought, but someone mentioned JVR in another thread and now its in my head...

makes you wonder if the amnesty buyouts will have a different set of rules tho
- Dozzer

That may be true, we don't yet i guess...... but im quite sure that you cannot resign the guy you just bought out. They may allow it in this one time scenario.

think the kings are gonna let him go? they will need affordable dependable d-men at reasonable prices as bad as anyone
- Dozzer

Buy out Komi

sign Regehr/Edler/Murray/White/Smid/Pylon

Very well said, I agree completely.

Deep down, just my opinion, but I think the Schenn for JVR trade was a mistake. Something tells me Schenn will be a dominant stay at home Dman while JVR amounts to nothing more than a Versteeg. Random thought, but someone mentioned JVR in another thread and now its in my head...
- systemtool

i dont know.. tough to say.. schenn will need to improve his foot speed to become any better imo.. it just seems like opposition teams have figured him out.. dont try to skate the puck by him or you will get laid out, instead, chip it past him so he cant hit you without taking a penalty and simply out skate him to the puck

whereas JVR has never really been given the chance to be a top dog in a forward core.... if he can keep from getting hurt.. i think he will be good for 50-60 points per year.. potentially with a couple big years mixed in...not bad for a second line winger if thats the case

Buy out Komi

sign Regehr/Edler/Murray/White/Smid/Pylon
- AdamFrench

buyout komi and hire Carlton a friend.. Carltonina

buyout komi and hire Carlton a friend.. Carltonina
- Dozzer

Sign Blackstrom to a 3 year deal

Sign Blackstrom to a 3 year deal
- AdamFrench

hell throw skates on the guy working the burkie dogs booth

hell throw skates on the guy working the burkie dogs booth
- Dozzer

Dozzer we're having a swanky soiree in three hours. You are not invited.

You're the lucky one.

Dozzer we're having a swanky soiree in three hours. You are not invited.

You're the lucky one.
- AdamFrench

i am?

EDIT: oh you said NOT invited.. okay.. i get it now

*pours another glass of wine*

i am?
- Dozzer

Old people party.

Old people party.
- AdamFrench

hey some of those old timers can really giver

I don't think so.... if you buy out a player you cannot resign him.
- burn

That was previously true, but because of the "transition period" required and compliance, the new CBA would likely allow this to happen in order for teams to get onside wit their caps.

The bottom line is that teams shouldn't lose their players or player's lives shouldn't be completely over turned in order to meet the new CBA cap requirements.

makes you wonder if the amnesty buyouts will have a different set of rules tho
- Dozzer

+1

anyone think luongo gets bought out if this deal is accepted?

my tune might change if the leafs could get him as a FA on a contract with a reasonable term

then again.. thats a huge chunk of money for the nucks to pay out

i'm curious as to what would happen there.... if the nucks try to hang onto him because potential trading partners lowball deals because of the buyout option it would be interesting to see if if nucks management pushes gillis to "take what he can get" just to avoid the mess of deciding to buy him out or not.

That was previously true, but because of the "transition period" required and compliance, the new CBA would likely allow this to happen in order for teams to get onside wit their caps.

The bottom line is that teams shouldn't lose their players or player's lives shouldn't be completely over turned in order to meet the new CBA cap requirements.
- As_I_See_It

You don't know that though.....there was a buyout period after last lockout, and I don't believe teams were allowed to resign their bought out players.

As it stands now it's not allowed, and I'm not sure it would be allowed.

anyone think luongo gets bought out if this deal is accepted?

my tune might change if the leafs could get him as a FA on a contract with a reasonable term

then again.. thats a huge chunk of money for the nucks to pay out

i'm curious as to what would happen there.... if the nucks try to hang onto him because potential trading partners lowball deals because of the buyout option it would be interesting to see if if nucks management pushes gillis to "take what he can get" just to avoid the mess of deciding to buy him out or not.
- Dozzer

NO...$40 million still left on his salary after next season, not gonna happen!

anyone think luongo gets bought out if this deal is accepted?

my tune might change if the leafs could get him as a FA on a contract with a reasonable term

then again.. thats a huge chunk of money for the nucks to pay out

i'm curious as to what would happen there.... if the nucks try to hang onto him because potential trading partners lowball deals because of the buyout option it would be interesting to see if if nucks management pushes gillis to "take what he can get" just to avoid the mess of deciding to buy him out or not.
- Dozzer

I can't see ownership willing to buyout that much money when they can trade him (getting nothing in return, but saving the capspace and all that $$$ of potential buyout).

That was previously true, but because of the "transition period" required and compliance, the new CBA would likely allow this to happen in order for teams to get onside wit their caps.

The bottom line is that teams shouldn't lose their players or player's lives shouldn't be completely over turned in order to meet the new CBA cap requirements.
- As_I_See_It

Teams lose players all the time, and players lives are over turned all the time VIA trades.

Players, player jobs and players switching teams are impacted by the new CBA whether they allow a team to buy out and resign their own players.