PA still (frank)ing around, still posturing, drawing this thing out so that the owners have little time to respond to the counter before January 2nd. this is absolutely unreal. 6000 lawyers and they need 3 days to understand a 300-page document? cannot imagine how badly the owners must want to push Fehr out of a plane.
- scotch_tape

The NHLPA has responded to every offer the NHL has made within a few days. They took a day or so to clarify the offer with the NHL. Nothing wrong with that.

The NHLPA has responded to every offer the NHL has made within a few days. They took a day or so to clarify the offer with the NHL. Nothing wrong with that.
- MJL

only I understand this.

only I understand this.
- muffin_man

The NHLPA has responded to every offer the NHL has made within a few days. They took a day or so to clarify the offer with the NHL. Nothing wrong with that.
- MJL

https://twitter.com/Broad...status/285513271824482304

- Flyfreaky

I'll bet he got laid - chicks dig the Kool-aid Man.

https://twitter.com/BroadStBull/status/285513271824482304
- Feeling_Glucky

Nothing unexpected there.

I'll bet he got laid - chicks dig the Kool-aid Man.
- Atomic Wedgie

Ohhhhhhhh Yeah!

The NHLPA has responded to every offer the NHL has made within a few days. They took a day or so to clarify the offer with the NHL. Nothing wrong with that.
- MJL

So what's insulting about the latest offer?

So what's insulting about the latest offer?
- Atomic Wedgie

The proposed salary cap for next season is too low, it will force the player to have a high escrow and totally limit the UFA market next summer. The PA will ask for a smoother transition, something like 65M instead of 60M but the league knows this, it's a trading chip.

https://twitter.com/BroadStBull/status/285513271824482304
- Feeling_Glucky

caps going to be 30 million if they keep this up...its supposed to be 50/50 right

50% of nothing is nothing

The proposed salary cap for next season is too low, it will force the player to have a high escrow and totally limit the UFA market next summer. The PA will ask for a smoother transition, something like 65M instead of 60M but the league knows this, it's a trading chip.
- Symba007

theyre lowering the share to 50/50, high escrow is why there's a 300M make whole BS. stop crying and play (frank)ing hockey

So what's insulting about the latest offer?
- Atomic Wedgie

In my opinion, nothing. I think it was a good offer. Hopefully one that will lead to a deal.

caps going to be 30 million if they keep this up...its supposed to be 50/50 right

50% of nothing is nothing
- flashfire

It's actually notl

In my opinion, nothing. I think it was a good offer. Hopefully one that will lead to a deal.
- MJL

It will, things the players will try to get (IMO)

-50M of the make whole being used to fund the short fall in the pension plan, PA will want that funded by the league outside of HRR and the make whole
-60M proposed salary cap to be higher for next year, probably around 65M
-Contract terms to be 7yrs, 8yrs for staying with the same team
-Higher revenue sharing, league offered 200M, PA will ask for 300M again
-Contract variance to be higher than the 10% proposed by the league

Just my guess, the more they ask, the more trading chips the PA has when they sit down to negotiate.

In my opinion, nothing. I think it was a good offer. Hopefully one that will lead to a deal.
- MJL

I can't believe you would just turn your back on Donnie Fehr like that.

Traitor.

I can't believe you would just turn your back on Donnie Fehr like that.

Traitor.
- Atomic Wedgie

Why don't you get it? the facts are all there...

It will, things the players will try to get (IMO)

-50M of the make whole being used to fund the short fall in the pension plan, PA will want that funded by the league outside of HRR and the make whole
-60M proposed salary cap to be higher for next year, probably around 65M
-Contract terms to be 7yrs, 8yrs for staying with the same team
-Higher revenue sharing, league offered 200M, PA will ask for 300M again
-Contract variance to be higher than the 10% proposed by the league

Just my guess, the more they ask, the more trading chips the PA has when they sit down to negotiate.
- Symba007

Well based on how the negotiations have been going. Those are pretty reasonable guesses.

It will, things the players will try to get (IMO)

-50M of the make whole being used to fund the short fall in the pension plan, PA will want that funded by the league outside of HRR and the make whole
-60M proposed salary cap to be higher for next year, probably around 65M
-Contract terms to be 7yrs, 8yrs for staying with the same team
-Higher revenue sharing, league offered 200M, PA will ask for 300M again
-Contract variance to be higher than the 10% proposed by the league

Just my guess, the more they ask, the more trading chips the PA has when they sit down to negotiate.
- Symba007

- pensions: I hope the players get as much as they can and more. This is an embarrassment to the league, and completely under-reported. The pension plan needs to be much better.

- I'm hoping for the $60 million cap next year, only because I think it would be fun for fans. Fun to watch GMs scramble.

- don't care one way or the other about the next three.

It will, things the players will try to get (IMO)

-50M of the make whole being used to fund the short fall in the pension plan, PA will want that funded by the league outside of HRR and the make whole
-60M proposed salary cap to be higher for next year, probably around 65M
-Contract terms to be 7yrs, 8yrs for staying with the same team
-Higher revenue sharing, league offered 200M, PA will ask for 300M again
-Contract variance to be higher than the 10% proposed by the league

Just my guess, the more they ask, the more trading chips the PA has when they sit down to negotiate.
- Symba007

If the PA does indeed come back with that much, then there will be another blow up and no season.

im glad since Ek finally got some validation from his 'peers' and got one right, he's suddenly gone. retiring on a win streak.
- zedniksghost

- pensions: I hope the players get as much as they can and more. This is an embarrassment to the league, and completely under-reported. The pension plan needs to be much better.

- I'm hoping for the $60 million cap next year, only because I think it would be fun for fans. Fun to watch GMs scramble.

- don't care one way or the other about the next three.
- Atomic Wedgie

Players in this day and age don't need a pension plan....average player makes 2.4 million dollars...pull your head out of your ass and learn to manage your money

If the PA does indeed come back with that much, then there will be another blow up and no season.
- Iggysbff

Those are just things they could propose, doesn't mean they will kill a deal without all of those. They will fight for a higher cap for next year FOR SURE.

Players in this day and age don't need a pension plan....average player makes 2.4 million dollars...pull your head out of your ass and learn to manage your money
- flashfire

The idea of a pension plan if for the 4th line type guys with short career, the top guys don't care about it.

Why don't you get it? the facts are all there...
- muffin_man

In my opinion the definition that this Webster site is listing is incorrect. My definition is the correct one.

The idea of a pension plan if for the 4th line type guys with short career, the top guys don't care about it.
- Symba007

How many employers out there give pensions to guys working only a few years? None.