Hey Glucky,

I know L Schenn is right handed. Has he ever been used on the power play? How did that turn out?
- Philly1980

Luke Schenn saw little time on the PP as a Leaf. With the exception of the 10/11 Season where he averaged .59 a game on the PP. He did not register a PP point in that Season.

Luke Schenn saw little time on the PP as a Leaf. With the exception of the 10/11 Season where he averaged .59 a game on the PP. He did not register a PP point in that Season.
- MJL

Id like to see the flyers try him out regardless.

Id like to see the flyers try him out regardless.
- Philly1980

Well since he's RH I believe, it's possible he sees some time there.

Routing that Junior juggernaut German team!
- MJL

It's a better German team on paper -- but certainly not from the results against Canada yesterday and the USA today-- than the one that beat USA in the opener of the 2006-07 tourney.

It's a better German team on paper -- but certainly not from the results against Canada yesterday and the USA today-- than the one that beat USA in the opener of the 2006-07 tourney.
- bmeltzer

Honestly, I have no idea, Bill. I don't know much about any of the teams. Just doesn't seem like Germany is ever at the top of International play.

When JVR was drafted sure there was disappointment that the Flyers did not get the first pick and get Kane, but I still had very high hopes for him. Never in my wildest dreams did I think he would underachieve like he did.

Injuries and performance caused the Flyers to sell low on him, a transaction that may very well come back to haunt Holmgren.

Well since he's RH I believe, it's possible he sees some time there.
- MJL

Without an obvious offensive option on the blueline (that is, besides Kimmo and the still-recovering Meszaros) I imagine we'll see everybody get a shot. Schenn will have to be outstanding to advance past that right-handed cannon Matt Walker, though

When JVR was drafted sure there was disappointment that the Flyers did not get the first pick and get Kane, but I still had very high hopes for him. Never in my wildest dreams did I think he would underachieve like he did.

Injuries and performance caused the Flyers to sell low on him, a transaction that may very well come back to haunt Holmgren.
- PLindbergh31

In Holmgren's defense, JVR was traded straight up for a player who'd similarly fallen into the 'underachieve/sell low' situation. Given the fleeting value at the Flyers blueline and the wealth of offensive peices, it wasn't a bad trade. I felt it was kind of a lateral, all things considered.

It's not a feel good situation, but I wouldn't diagnose Holmger with egg-on-face syndrome.

When JVR was drafted sure there was disappointment that the Flyers did not get the first pick and get Kane, but I still had very high hopes for him. Never in my wildest dreams did I think he would underachieve like he did.

Injuries and performance caused the Flyers to sell low on him, a transaction that may very well come back to haunt Holmgren.
- PLindbergh31

JVR has the skill and the talent ... All you have to do is just watch the boston series to see that.... Determination and the will to bring it every night .... thats a no.

IDK if the goal Gostisbehere got today agains the Germans was deflected or not by TJ miller in front, but all i have to say the kid has a MISSILE of a shot.

In Holmgren's defense, JVR was traded straight up for a player who'd similarly fallen into the 'underachieve/sell low' situation. Given the fleeting value at the Flyers blueline and the wealth of offensive peices, it wasn't a bad trade. I felt it was kind of a lateral, all things considered.

It's not a feel good situation, but I wouldn't diagnose Holmger with egg-on-face syndrome.
- BulliesPhan87

I'm not saying the Flyers got a bag of pucks for JVR, but it's a pretty safe assumption that JVR has a higher ceiling than Schenn. Granted they play two different positions, and the Flyers have a greater need on the blueline.

Only way to evaluate this trade is time. In about 3 years we will know if it worked out.

JVR has the skill and the talent ... All you have to do is just watch the boston series to see that.... Determination and the will to bring it every night .... thats a no.
- Philly1980

That series vs. Boston is what has me concerned. If he puts it together and finds a way to stay healthy and get a level of consistency watch out.

When JVR was drafted sure there was disappointment that the Flyers did not get the first pick and get Kane, but I still had very high hopes for him. Never in my wildest dreams did I think he would underachieve like he did.

Injuries and performance caused the Flyers to sell low on him, a transaction that may very well come back to haunt Holmgren.
- PLindbergh31

Or Luke Schenn can continue to develop and with the physical tools he has. He can blossom into a top stay at home physical defenseman that every team needs. That is capable of playing a strong shut down role against top players in key game situations.

Or Luke Schenn can continue to develop and with the physical tools he has. He can blossom into a top stay at home physical defenseman that every team needs. That is capable of playing a strong shut down role against top players in key game situations.
- MJL

Hopefully that is what happens. I don't understand why Toronto was making him a healthy scratch at times, a team going nowhere, it makes zero sense having a young player sit in the press box.

Hopefully that is what happens. I don't understand why Toronto was making him a healthy scratch at times, a team going nowhere, it makes zero sense having a young player sit in the press box.
- PLindbergh31

Go Giants!! End the ERROR

That series vs. Boston is what has me concerned. If he puts it together and finds a way to stay healthy and get a level of consistency watch out.
- PLindbergh31

Not me...He just didnt bring it every night.Will he be good? yeah....John leclair good NO..Flyers needed a defense man and they got one.

Hopefully that is what happens. I don't understand why Toronto was making him a healthy scratch at times, a team going nowhere, it makes zero sense having a young player sit in the press box.
- PLindbergh31

I think he had big issues with phaneuf.... A fresh start is what this kid needs to blossom. I got a good feeling about him.

Hopefully that is what happens. I don't understand why Toronto was making him a healthy scratch at times, a team going nowhere, it makes zero sense having a young player sit in the press box.
- PLindbergh31

Young players sometimes need some time to sit back and watch. Defense is the hardest position to learn.

I'm not saying the Flyers got a bag of pucks for JVR, but it's a pretty safe assumption that JVR has a higher ceiling than Schenn. Granted they play two different positions, and the Flyers have a greater need on the blueline.

Only way to evaluate this trade is time. In about 3 years we will know if it worked out.
- PLindbergh31

I don't know if that is true. What is JVR's ceiling? What is Luke Schenn's ceiling?

I don't know if that is true. What is JVR's ceiling? What is Luke Schenn's ceiling?
- MJL

That's kind of the thing for me, is that I can't really have an idea of Luke Schenn's ceiling. The kid attracted a lot of vocal dissent, largely due to sky high expectations, and I'm just not the kind of hockey fan who's going to form an opinion based on that. His situation has changed, and who's to say what they've seen is what we'll get? Not to be a Richard, but that Maple Leafs team hasn't had a reputation for making players look good (at least, not its own players).

That's kind of the thing for me, is that I can't really have an idea of Luke Schenn's ceiling. The kid attracted a lot of vocal dissent, largely due to sky high expectations, and I'm just not the kind of hockey fan who's going to form an opinion based on that. His situation has changed, and who's to say what they've seen is what we'll get? Not to be a Richard, but that Maple Leafs team hasn't had a reputation for making players look good (at least, not its own players).
- BulliesPhan87

Well I know one thing. It's hard to say with Luke Schenn that what you see is what you get. While he doesn't have a high level of skill as far as the offensive side of the puck. He brings a lot of physical tools to the ice. And he is still only 23. So there is a ton of room for growth there. He's already been a high minute defenseman at a very young age. I think there is a lot of upside there and room for growth.

In Holmgren's defense, JVR was traded straight up for a player who'd similarly fallen into the 'underachieve/sell low' situation. Given the fleeting value at the Flyers blueline and the wealth of offensive peices, it wasn't a bad trade. I felt it was kind of a lateral, all things considered.

It's not a feel good situation, but I wouldn't diagnose Holmger with egg-on-face syndrome.
- BulliesPhan87

Well said. He will be a solid number 4 (maybe 3) for years to come. Nothing wrong with that.

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Ah, those late night stops for grease...always entertaining.
- tangent_man

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