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Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Dec 24 @ 11:15 AM ET
Me too, but only cause the boneheaded thougts of his make me want to pull my hair out.

He had waves of level headed thinkers for pages and pages laughing at his homerism, at his retarded idea tha john scott was gonna be a huge factor for the sabres and comparing pominville to kopitar!!! Etc etc.

Then he gets one or two other monkeys to kinda agree and he feels validated.
Misery certainly loves company
He was calling out the 1st line center, dominant, best forward on the cup champs!!?
Or that datsyuk isnt elite???!!!?? Giroux!?? Holy eff

Hes just an old homer whos wayy out of touch with the game today.
He lovez his sabres, he watches his sabres, and theyre the best ever. All of u be damned.

- hugefemale dog77

Giroux has to have a couple more seasons like the one he had last year to be considered elite imo.

Kopitar isn't elite....suggesting otherwise is asinine imo. That said, he's a moon better than anyone the sabres have.

The rest (crosby, malkin, stamkos, datsyuk) are elite by my definition.
Tee-Dot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: For being Stee's alternate personality or being associated with M. Night Shyamalan?
Joined: 12.11.2008

Dec 24 @ 11:18 AM ET
C'mon now guys! Where's the Christmas spirit?
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Dec 24 @ 11:21 AM ET
Giroux has to have a couple more seasons like the one he had last year to be considered elite imo.

Kopitar isn't elite....suggesting otherwise is asinine imo. That said, he's a moon better than anyone the sabres have.

The rest (crosby, malkin, stamkos, datsyuk) are elite by my definition.

- Pen15


It all depends on your definition of elite.
Mine means one of the best centers in the game. Which he is. Hes a name mentioned with a handfull of other elite centers.
Not neccasarily the top 3 players in the world.
That said, i also dont put him too far behind that top group.

Theres no question about datsyuk and stamkos.

Giroux will have more seasons like this. There's just no doubt. Hes so good.

And suggesting anyone pominville or even vanek is in kopitars class makes me laugh
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Dec 24 @ 11:25 AM ET
It's a noun. Go to websters.
- BuffaloHardHat


You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. It can be used as a noun. For example, if I were referring to “the elite” as a group. Then it becomes a noun. When you’re using it to describe something, like we are here, as in “is a player elite?”, then it becomes an adjective.


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/elite

Look down at definition 5.
Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Dec 24 @ 11:26 AM ET
It all depends on your definition of elite.
Mine means one of the best centers in the game. Which he is. Hes a name mentioned with a handfull of other elite centers.
Not neccasarily the top 3 players in the world.
That said, i also dont put him too far behind that top group.

Theres no question about datsyuk and stamkos.

Giroux will have more seasons like this. There's just no doubt. Hes so good.

And suggesting anyone pominville or even vanek is in kopitars class makes me laugh

- hugefemale dog77

Fair enough. I also don't think that list of 4 is exhaustive by any stretch. My only comment re: Grioux is that I'd like to see a few more years like the one he had before I put him in that catagory.

I think we'd all agree that being elite has just as much to do with consistency & longevity.

And I wasn't part of that Kopitar vs. Vanek/Pommer discussion...I find it funny that it was even had.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Dec 24 @ 11:27 AM ET
It all depends on your definition of elite.
Mine means one of the best centers in the game. Not neccasarily the top 3 players in the world.
That said, i also dont put him too far behind that top group.

Giroux will have more seasons like this. There's just no doubt. Hes so good.

And suggesting anyone pominville or even vanek is in kopitars class makes me laugh

- hugefemale dog77

More hilarity.

I never said Pommers nor Vanek were elite.

Posters like you saying that Kopitar with his average seasons is elite is when I said it must then make players like Pommers elite also.

prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Dec 24 @ 11:29 AM ET
More hilarity.

I never said Pommers nor Vanek were elite.

Posters like you saying that Kopitar with his average seasons is elite is when I said it must then make players like Pommers elite also.

- BuffaloHardHat



And that makes you foolish, because Kopitar is a FAR, FAR better player than Jason Pominville.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Dec 24 @ 11:29 AM ET
You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. It can be used as a noun. For example, if I were referring to “the elite” as a group. Then it becomes a noun. When you’re using it to describe something, like we are here, as in “is a player elite?”, then it becomes an adjective.


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/elite

Look down at definition 5.

- prock

We are referring to this as an elite group of players ! Hello ?

Dense!
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Dec 24 @ 11:33 AM ET
And that makes you foolish, because Kopitar is a FAR, FAR better player than Jason Pominville.
- prock

In your opinion.

You are the authority on foolish son?

Spare me, you dont even know the difference between and adj and noun.

Not being a homer, I'll take Pommers every day over Kopitar. Pommers is a leader as well a 30 goal scorer.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Dec 24 @ 11:36 AM ET
In your opinion.

You are the authority on foolish son?

Spare me, you dont even know the difference between and adj and noun.

Not being a homer, I'll take Pommers every day over Kopitar. Pommers is a leader as well a 30 goal scorer.

- BuffaloHardHat



This is funny. I think your actually serious too..

U Saying 'not being a homer'. Doesnt actually make u any less of one
Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Dec 24 @ 11:37 AM ET
In your opinion.

You are the authority on foolish son?

Spare me, you dont even know the difference between and adj and noun.

Not being a homer, I'll take Pommers every day over Kopitar. Pommers is a leader as well a 30 goal scorer.

- BuffaloHardHat

Gotta disagree with this...Kopitar's regular season/playoff production and +/- alone are enough to make this a lopsided affair.

EDIT: Also, Pommer isn't a career 30 goal scorer...his average is 25 goals/yr.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Dec 24 @ 11:38 AM ET
In your opinion.

You are the authority on foolish son?

Spare me, you dont even know the difference between and adj and noun.

Not being a homer, I'll take Pommers every day over Kopitar. Pommers is a leader as well a 30 goal scorer.

- BuffaloHardHat

Not to mention Pommers nets 30 without a number 1 center in a defensive minded conference.

And I still am not saying Pommers is elite. Just showing you how (frank)ing hilarious and off the wall you are saying Kopitar is Crosby/Malkin group ?
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Dec 24 @ 11:38 AM ET

Not being a homer, I'll take Pommers every day over Kopitar. Pommers is a leader as well a 30 goal scorer.

- BuffaloHardHat


Of the players mentioned, who would you take Pominville over?

1. Malkin
2. Stamkos
3. Crosby
4. Datsyuk
5. Giroux
6. Kopitar * you already said you would take Pominville*
7. Nash
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Dec 24 @ 11:39 AM ET
Gotta disagree with this...Kopitar's regular season/playoff production and +/- alone are enough to make this a lopsided affair.
- Pen15


The buffalo guy is awesome. Hes making my day already. Too funny
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Dec 24 @ 11:39 AM ET
Gotta disagree with this...Kopitar's regular season/playoff production and +/- alone are enough to make this a lopsided affair.
- Pen15

I'd still take Pommers . He is a leader unlike Kopitar. Euros typically arent.
Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Dec 24 @ 11:40 AM ET
Not to mention Pommers nets 30 without a number 1 center in a defensive minded conference.

And I still am not saying Pommers is elite. Just showing you how (frank)ing hilarious and off the wall you are saying Kopitar is Crosby/Malkin group ?

- BuffaloHardHat

Pommer has actually averaged 25 goals/yr.

Just becuase he netted 30 last year doesn't make him a career 30 goal scorer.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Dec 24 @ 11:40 AM ET
We are referring to this as an elite group of players ! Hello ?

Dense!

- BuffaloHardHat





This is clearly going over your head. The question was asked, “is the player elite?” That’s a descriptor. In that case, it’s an adjective.

No one is talking about “the elite”. If there were an established group of players that were referred, as a group, as “the elite”, then in that instance it becomes a noun. No one is talking about “the elite” did this or that, rather, he is an elite player. Description = adjective.

And I’m not continuing with this grade 9 English lesson. If you disagree, take it up with someone else.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Dec 24 @ 11:40 AM ET
He really seems to harp on goals. Has no respect for assists.

Is cheechoo elite?
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Dec 24 @ 11:41 AM ET
I'd still take Pommers . He is a leader unlike Kopitar. Euros typically arent.
- BuffaloHardHat



Hahahaahahahaha. You're kidding right?
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Dec 24 @ 11:41 AM ET
Of the players mentioned, who would you take Pominville over?

1. Malkin
2. Stamkos
3. Crosby
4. Datsyuk
5. Giroux
6. Kopitar * you already said you would take Pominville*
7. Nash

- opeth_pa

I would take Pommers over Kopitar, Datsyuk because he is declining and Nash because of pure laziness .

Possibly Giroux. I need to see Giroux put another season like last season before I am sold on him.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Dec 24 @ 11:42 AM ET
In your opinion.

You are the authority on foolish son?

Spare me, you dont even know the difference between and adj and noun.

Not being a homer, I'll take Pommers every day over Kopitar. Pommers is a leader as well a 30 goal scorer.

- BuffaloHardHat






Really?
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Dec 24 @ 11:42 AM ET
He really seems to harp on goals. Has no respect for assists.

Is cheechoo elite?

- hugefemale dog77

Pommers has assisits also.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Dec 24 @ 11:43 AM ET
I'd still take Pommers . He is a leader unlike Kopitar. Euros typically arent.
- BuffaloHardHat


Of course u would.

Your a proven biased homer fan. Which basically renders your opinion moot to an objective debate regarding anybody on the sabres.

We've established this
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Dec 24 @ 11:44 AM ET


This is clearly going over your head. The question was asked, “is the player elite?” That’s a descriptor. In that case, it’s an adjective.

No one is talking about “the elite”. If there were an established group of players that were referred, as a group, as “the elite”, then in that instance it becomes a noun. No one is talking about “the elite” did this or that, rather, he is an elite player. Description = adjective.

And I’m not continuing with this grade 9 English lesson. If you disagree, take it up with someone else.

- prock

You are not right!

I know the way I am using the word.

You can try all you like to make yourself right. You arent!
Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Dec 24 @ 11:44 AM ET
I'd still take Pommers . He is a leader unlike Kopitar. Euros typically arent.
- BuffaloHardHat

I don't think that says much.

I think a valid argument can be made that Kopitar has better leadership qualities during crunch time than Pommers. Just look at Kopitar's most recent playoff numbers as evidence. Pommers career playoff statistics are average (at best), and certainly not worthy of leadership praise.

EDIT: Kopitar had 20pts and was a +16 during their cup run. If that isn't clutch, I don't know what is.
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