I'm not into formulas. I'll leave that to you. I'm into simple conversations.
- MJL

If you think anything that I said wasn't very "simple" than that would explain why you're having a tough time grasping it and then revert to stating that because I cannot understand your "simple" posts earlier my formulas do not make sense. You've stated repeatedly that I have not read all of your previous posts, but I have and as you so eloquently stated they are very simplistic. Tomahawk seemed to grasp the concept without even reading what I wrote. You failed to see what he was stating as well, but w/e...you'll respond to this because you need to get the last word in traditional MJL fashion.

if(MJL eq "wrong") {
$intiate_defense_mechanism = $state_individual_doesn't_understand + $divert_from_issue;
print "$intiate_defense_mechanism\n":
}

That's not a formula, but since you asked for a formula, I'd feel bad if I didn't at the very least leave you with something.

If you think anything that I said wasn't very "simple" than that would explain why you're having a tough time grasping it and then revert to stating that because I cannot understand your "simple" posts earlier my formulas do not make sense. You've stated repeatedly that I have not read all of your previous posts, but I have and as you so eloquently stated they are very simplistic. Tomahawk seemed to grasp the concept without even reading what I wrote. You failed to see what he was stating as well, but w/e...you'll respond to this because you need to get the last word in traditional MJL fashion.

if(MJL eq "wrong") {
$intiate_defense_mechanism = $state_individual_doesn't_understand + $divert_from_issue;
print "$intiate_defense_mechanism\n":
}

That's not a formula, but since you asked for a formula, I'd feel bad if I didn't at the very least leave you with something.
- flyers20032002

I respond to those who respond to my posts as a matter of courtesy. And I'll stick to the subject matter and not get personal. No need for that.

You made a statement in reply to me that I believe is incorrect. And that is that if I believe that nationality has nothing to do with it and it's on an individual level, then time is irrelevant. That in my opinion is untrue. Anyone who has ever entered into a foreign environment, whether it be for work, or a social environment, or whatever. Knows that you adjust to that environment over time. Some people adapt quicker then others, depending on a whole host of factors obviously. Some can adapt pretty quickly, while others may never adapt and become comfortable. But time is certainly relevant for most people. Just from a logistics standpoint alone. You know that simply from life experiences. And a players personality and willingness to adapt is also certainly a factor. probably even a bigger factor then time spent in that environment. Because some people regardless of how long they're in a situation, may never feel comfortable. For a variety of reasons.

Now I know I didn't provide any fancy formulas, nor did I comment on you personally. But that is my opinion. There aren't any contradictions. Just what I believe to be the case.

I respond to those who respond to my posts as a matter of courtesy. And I'll stick to the subject matter and not get personal. No need for that.

You made a statement in reply to me that I believe is incorrect. And that is that if I believe that nationality has nothing to do with it and it's on an individual level, then time is irrelevant. That in my opinion is untrue. Anyone who has ever entered into a foreign environment, whether it be for work, or a social environment, or whatever. Knows that you adjust to that environment over time. Some people adapt quicker then others, depending on a whole host of factors obviously. Some can adapt pretty quickly, while others may never adapt and become comfortable. But time is certainly relevant for most people. Just from a logistics standpoint alone. You know that simply from life experiences. And a players personality and willingness to adapt is also certainly a factor. probably even a bigger factor then time spent in that environment. Because some people regardless of how long they're in a situation, may never feel comfortable. For a variety of reasons.

Now I know I didn't provide any fancy formulas, nor did I comment on you personally. But that is my opinion. There aren't any contradictions. Just what I believe to be the case.
- MJL

Thanks for proving my point, using your words to help you get the picture:

adjust to that environment over time = personality + willingness to adapt +time...you just did it again. I agree with your "whole host of factors", which could definitely vary based upon the individual and would be represented on the right side of that equation. Did you read my earlier post, I said the same thing in less words?

And this is just the icing on the cake, further proving my point in reference to time's irrelevance:

"Because some people regardless of how long they're in a situation, may never feel comfortable. For a variety of reasons."

Obviously time is of importance to people, but I was assessing time's relevance to assimilation and that is where it is NOT relevant as you stated above.

Conclusion: You agree with me, but refuse to agree with me...I don't understand why, please help me.

As for the personal nonsense, it became personal when you sarcastically scoffed off the formula, which you still don't understand based upon this recent post, I posted earlier and your whole tone throughout the discussion has made it personal. I'm not the only one who reacts to your posts in this fashion, look around.

Thanks for proving my point, using your words to help you get the picture:

adjust to that environment over time = personality + willingness to adapt +time...you just did it again. I agree with your "whole host of factors", which could definitely vary based upon the individual and would be represented on the right side of that equation. Did you read my earlier post, I said the same thing in less words?

And this is just the icing on the cake, further proving my point in reference to time's irrelevance:

"Because some people regardless of how long they're in a situation, may never feel comfortable. For a variety of reasons."

Obviously time is of importance to people, but I was assessing time's relevance to assimilation and that is where it is NOT relevant as you stated above.

Conclusion: You agree with me, but refuse to agree with me...I don't understand why, please help me.

As for the personal nonsense, it became personal when you sarcastically scoffed off the formula, which you still don't understand based upon this recent post, I posted earlier and your whole tone throughout the discussion has made it personal. I'm not the only one who reacts to your posts in this fashion, look around.
- flyers20032002

I understand it just fine. You're responsible for it getting personal. Not me. I still haven't gotten personal in replying to you. While again, you've gotten personal with this response. You were obviously looking for a fight with the comments you made. Such as saying there's a contradiction, when there obviously wasn't one. And in stating that I shouldn't phrase my posts as fact. Your tone was the only tone that made it personal. You came at me, now you're upset that I stood up for myself? Seriously?

As far as actual content. I disagree completely that time is not relevant to assimilation as you put it. And if you think I stated that it wasn't relevant. Then again, you didn't get the drift of my post. I even flat out stated that time was relevant for most people in adapting to a new environment. And I also stated that for some people time doesn't matter. But that being the case certainly doesn't make time irrelevant. Because it's a factor for more people then it isn't. That's my opinion.

This is a Hockey Forum. And you're surprised that I scoffed at the formula you posted?

So no I don't agree with you at all on this. So either agree to disagree, or we can continue. Choice is yours. But I will continue to refrain from getting personal. If you insist on continuing to get personal. Then I will simply end the conversation on my end.

I understand it just fine. You're responsible for it getting personal. Not me. I still haven't gotten personal in replying to you. While again, you've gotten personal with this response. You were obviously looking for a fight with the comments you made. Such as saying there's a contradiction, when there obviously wasn't one. And in stating that I shouldn't phrase my posts as fact. Your tone was the only tone that made it personal. You came at me, now you're upset that I stood up for myself? Seriously?

As far as actual content. I disagree completely that time is not relevant to assimilation as you put it. And if you think I stated that it wasn't relevant. Then again, you didn't get the drift of my post. I even flat out stated that time was relevant for most people in adapting to a new environment. And I also stated that for some people time doesn't matter. But that being the case certainly doesn't make time irrelevant. Because it's a factor for more people then it isn't. That's my opinion.

This is a Hockey Forum. And you're surprised that I scoffed at the formula you posted?

So no I don't agree with you at all on this. So either agree to disagree, or we can continue. Choice is yours. But I will continue to refrain from getting personal. If you insist on continuing to get personal. Then I will simply end the conversation on my end.
- MJL

"This is a Hockey Forum. And you're surprised that I scoffed at the formula you posted?" --Illustrating my point, please get off your high horse, you're guilty of the same rhetoric although you try and disguise it. Furthermore, despite it being a hockey forum we started a discussion on assimilation into another culture and you willingly participated, makes your statement a bit hypocritical. Additionally, math is an essential fabric of everything we do and it is ingrained in the fabric of humanity. There would be no hockey among several other things without math. To discount its importance in this discussion is being ignorant.

"I even flat out stated that time was relevant for most people in adapting to a new environment. And I also stated that for some people time doesn't matter. "---This is the contradiction to which I have been alluding to and it was not a personal attack as you claim. How can a result or a unit of measurement have any impact? It is simply a result. Elaborate on how time influences assimilation and I bet you cannot without mentioning time in conjunction with the variables on the right side of the equation. Time is independent of said variables, that's where we disagree, but this is a mathematical fact.