I'm not going to spend much time looking, but here is a mod referencing it....



third post done.
- prock

Guy like Scooby are trolls They come here to kill time and get a laugh, again no sane Canucks fan would say that Corrado is better than Reilly. Reilly looks like a heck of a pick right now and has top pairing upside, there's no denying that. Corrado has been a pleasant surprise for a 5th round pick and the fact that he was even in the running for a spot on the team was great, he also had a good showing and the fact that he was a right handed d-man had some people saying that maybe he deserved to be on the team including people like Bob McKenzie who is definitely not a delusional Canucks fan.

Guy like Scooby are trolls They come here to kill time and get a laugh, again no sane Canucks fan would say that Corrado is better than Reilly. Reilly looks like a heck of a pick right now and has top pairing upside, there's no denying that. Corrado has been a pleasant surprise for a 5th round pick and the fact that he was even in the running for a spot on the team was great, he also had a good showing and the fact that he was a right handed d-man had some people saying that maybe he deserved to be on the team including people like Bob McKenzie who is definitely not a delusional Canucks fan.
- Nucker101

They switched over to Finn/Percy. And it was more than just scooby. It went on for about a week.

I'm not going to spend much time looking, but here is a mod referencing it....



third post done.
- prock

So first it was Ian saying Corrado was better than Rielly in his blogs....you referenced this one... and couldnt be more wrong...

Played his ass off and I have yet to see or hear a post camp prognosticator/expert/person that didn't have him on the team. It's been reported that he didn't really make a mistake in any of the three games and was one of the better defenceman at camp. It really sucks when your draft spot influences whether or not you make a team (reality is only 4 of the players were selected after the 2nd round- including Lipon).

Corrado will learn from this and will have to settle for being in the mix for the 2018 Olympic team. There is a long list of great defencemen who never played in the World Juniors, Corrado will just have to work hard and get on that list.

...and you claimed in the thread he said it.... which he absolutely did not.

In your failure to back it up you come up with a post from another Leafs fan who doesnt actuall quote any of it.

So your case is based on someone else who read someone elses post and mentions it... and even says it was fans in a leafs thread...

How many times can you get caught lying on one page...going for a record?

oh, don't get me wrong, I like Blacker as a prospect. Good at both ends of the ice, talented kid. That's not really a knock against Corrado.

I'm just saying, if someone had said that, a blogger nonetheless, Leaf fans would be getting an earful.

And after dealing with Canuck trolls for a week chirping, you reap what you sow.
- prock

Fair enough, most of the hyping of prospects and trolling is due to the lockout. The trolls are definitely not a good representation of what the typical Canucks fan's views are though. Quite a few of us have questioned MG's drafting and some of the moves he's made.

They switched over to Finn/Percy. And it was more than just scooby. It went on for about a week.
- prock

I don't follow the Leafs prospects to closely so I can't really comment on those 2, but there's definitely more than just Scooby that are Canuck trolls on this site.

They switched over to Finn/Percy. And it was more than just scooby. It went on for about a week.
- prock

It doesnt matter. This is prock no matter what happens leading up to his trolling.

So first it was Ian saying Corrado was better than Rielly in his blogs....you referenced this one... and couldnt be more wrong...

- boonerbuck

I never said that at all. I put that link in the post in reference to the question on whether or not he was serious when he said Corrado would have to settle for being in the mix for the olympic team. Go back, re-read, and then apologize.

In your failure to back it up you come up with a post from another Leafs fan who doesnt actuall quote any of it.

So your case is based on someone else who read someone elses post and mentions it... and even says it was fans in a leafs thread...

How many times can you get caught lying on one page...going for a record?
- boonerbuck

Umm, zero, to someone who can read. The link was a mod referencing the barrage of Canucks trolls posting that Corrado was better than Rielly. You don't think that supports me saying Leaf threads got filled with Canucks fans posting Corrado was better than Rielly?

I don't follow the Leafs prospects to closely so I can't really comment on those 2, but there's definitely more than just Scooby that are Canuck trolls on this site.
- Nucker101

I'm not a huge fan of Percy, but Finn is pretty top notch. Close to a point per game so far this year, while being excellent defensively, all the while playing the first 20 games with mono. He was never expected to slide that far. He was projected mid first round.

Percy seemed to be doing pretty well, but got hit with injuries last year, and concussions. I don’t know if it’s related or not, but he’s been very unimpressive ever since, and it’s been a LONG time. I'd say he's regressed.

They switched over to Finn/Percy. And it was more than just scooby. It went on for about a week.
- prock

Come on Prock,,,you were already in here trolling because we thought he was deserving of a invite. Then, before every set of cuts, Canucks fans were crazy according to you because we, along with team Canada management and coaches and highly credited hockey media like McKenzie thought he had a chance of bumping a higher profile defenseman. McKenzie still believes he should be on the team.

Come on Prock,,,you were already in here trolling because we thought he was deserving of a invite. Then, before every set of cuts, Canucks fans were crazy according to you because we, along with team Canada management and coaches and highly credited hockey media like McKenzie thought he had a chance of bumping a higher profile defenseman. McKenzie still believes he should be on the team.
- boonerbuck

Wasn't he one of the first ones cut?

I never said that at all. I put that link in the post in reference to the question on whether or not he was serious when he said Corrado would have to settle for being in the mix for the olympic team. Go back, re-read, and then apologize.




Umm, zero, to someone who can read. The link was a mod referencing the barrage of Canucks trolls posting that Corrado was better than Rielly. You don't think that supports me saying Leaf threads got filled with Canucks fans posting Corrado was better than Rielly?
- prock

If Canucks fans were posting it for a week and the best thing you can produce is some 3rd hand mention of it with out any quote whatsoever... then it only underlines your credibilty.

If at best all you can come up with is Scooby and Boinker...then shame on you for being so gullible.

If Canucks fans were posting it for a week and the best thing you can produce is some 3rd hand mention of it with out any quote whatsoever... then it only underlines your credibilty.

If at best all you can come up with is Scooby and Boinker...then shame on you for being so gullible.
- boonerbuck

It stopped when Corrado was cut. I'm not going to go searching through threads from a week ago.

Wasn't he one of the first ones cut?
- prock

I think he was cut a day or two before the final roster announcement iirc.

You really havent made any case to support your trolling over the last couple of weeks. I always feel better about my team when your done with this kind of act btw. I've been down on our prospects but when you force everyone to look deeper, it's not as bad as we thought.

I'm not a huge fan of Percy, but Finn is pretty top notch. Close to a point per game so far this year, while being excellent defensively, all the while playing the first 20 games with mono. He was never expected to slide that far. He was projected mid first round.

Percy seemed to be doing pretty well, but got hit with injuries last year, and concussions. I don’t know if it’s related or not, but he’s been very unimpressive ever since, and it’s been a LONG time. I'd say he's regressed.
- prock

I wouldn't say Percy has regressed at all. He's only slightly behind his point pace from last season, and CHL points are influenced more by who you play with than any other league. Percy's bread and butter is his defensive game, anyway.

I can't recall seeing Finn as low/high as mid first, but I do remember seeing him in the 20-30th overall on most lists—I won't claim to have seen them all, though.

Finn's definitely having a great season, so far, and I bet there's a few teams wishing they took him earlier.

It stopped when Corrado was cut. I'm not going to go searching through threads from a week ago.
- prock

atta boy,,, run along...

Try and back up your claims about Ian as well while your at it.

I can't recall seeing Finn as low/high as mid first, but I do remember seeing him in the 20-30th overall on most lists—I won't claim to have seen them all, though.

Finn's definitely having a great season, so far, and I bet there's a few teams wishing they took him earlier.
- Fosco

he was mostly mid-first round. here are his rankings:


9 – Craig Button

14 – Redline Report

16 – Hockey Prospectus (Corey Pronman)

16 – NHL Central Scouting

18 – ISS

20 – McKeen’s Hockey

21 – Bob MacKenzie



Corey Pronman –

Finn took a ton of steps forward in his 17-year-old OHL season and really emerged onto the prospect scene. Finn was looked at last year as a fine defensive defenseman, but now has the looks of a great two-way player. He is much more conditioned than last year, which shows up in his skating. Finn is an above-average skater with fluid mobility and good acceleration, but he also doesn't lose a step late in the game even after logging big minutes. Finn is a "pretty" skater as he has natural yet powerful movements. He has above-average puck skills which combined with his skating make him a good puck-carrier coming out of his zone and penetrating the opposing blue line. Finn displays high-end hockey sense, making very quick decisions while his reads remain correct and creative and he always seems to be making things happen with the puck. Defensively, he shows good awareness, is a fine stick-checker, and uses his mobility well to close gaps. Finn isn't that threatening physically, as he's slightly short for a defenseman and has a frame that needs a ton of filling out, but he does work hard and shows the grit needed for a 6'0" defenseman.



TSN Craig Button:

Matthew is not going to show up in highlight videos on any type of a regular basis. It's not in his game to be flashy but it is his game to be incredibly effective. That effectiveness translates into every area of the game and all of its situations. Simply put, he is a player who completes plays. He does it with the puck. Defensively in getting the puck out of danger. Offensively in reading the play and getting the puck to areas where his team can attack. He is superb in transition and can do it skating with the puck or passing the puck. He does it without the puck. He has very good body positioning and stick position where he can keep opponents at bay. His skating is strong in all regards and he asserts with his body & with excellent lower body strength and balance, he's a hard player to gain an advantage on. He has excellent sense and understands what is unfolding and what the appropriate response should be. He has great poise playing and the challenges of the game do not faze him in any way. He is a player who makes teams stronger.



Sportsnet

Analysis: Finn is one of the quicker rising prospects in the draft after a successful second half to his season unlocked the hidden promise to his game. He showed more poise and confidence rushing the puck and displays good potential as an offensive defenceman. His defensive game could use some improvement, but considering his quick rise and potential, Finn will be a valued prospect.



Redline Report – June, 13

At No. 8 on Red Line's list is Matt Finn, one of the safest bets to become a steady and dependable two-way rearguard. Finn sees the ice well and makes accurate outlets. What we like best about him is that all his movements are decisive and made with confidence. He makes very good decisions both with and without the puck, and shows fine hockey sense in all three zones. He's not flashy, but is highly efficient.



The Scouting Report

Finn came into the season with a chip on his shoulder after being cut from the Canadian entry at the Ivan Hlinka tournament and quickly went about dispelling any concerns about his game. Finn is a solid all-around player who has done a good job of improving his footwork this year and improving his skating. He really made his mark this year as a solid powerplay defenseman who was also counted on to play in all situations. Overall, Finn doesn’t really have any defining qualities that jump out at you, but he competes hard and doesn’t have any glaring weaknesses either. Given how much he improved this past season, it’s tough to cap what he can do moving forward.

atta boy,,, run along...

Try and back up your claims about Ian as well while your at it.
- boonerbuck

what are you on about? I just posted the reference to him talking about Corrado in the mix for the Olympic team.

he was mostly mid-first round. here are his rankings:


9 – Craig Button

14 – Redline Report

16 – Hockey Prospectus (Corey Pronman)

16 – NHL Central Scouting

18 – ISS

20 – McKeen’s Hockey

21 – Bob MacKenzie



Corey Pronman –

Finn took a ton of steps forward in his 17-year-old OHL season and really emerged onto the prospect scene. Finn was looked at last year as a fine defensive defenseman, but now has the looks of a great two-way player. He is much more conditioned than last year, which shows up in his skating. Finn is an above-average skater with fluid mobility and good acceleration, but he also doesn't lose a step late in the game even after logging big minutes. Finn is a "pretty" skater as he has natural yet powerful movements. He has above-average puck skills which combined with his skating make him a good puck-carrier coming out of his zone and penetrating the opposing blue line. Finn displays high-end hockey sense, making very quick decisions while his reads remain correct and creative and he always seems to be making things happen with the puck. Defensively, he shows good awareness, is a fine stick-checker, and uses his mobility well to close gaps. Finn isn't that threatening physically, as he's slightly short for a defenseman and has a frame that needs a ton of filling out, but he does work hard and shows the grit needed for a 6'0" defenseman.



TSN Craig Button:

Matthew is not going to show up in highlight videos on any type of a regular basis. It's not in his game to be flashy but it is his game to be incredibly effective. That effectiveness translates into every area of the game and all of its situations. Simply put, he is a player who completes plays. He does it with the puck. Defensively in getting the puck out of danger. Offensively in reading the play and getting the puck to areas where his team can attack. He is superb in transition and can do it skating with the puck or passing the puck. He does it without the puck. He has very good body positioning and stick position where he can keep opponents at bay. His skating is strong in all regards and he asserts with his body & with excellent lower body strength and balance, he's a hard player to gain an advantage on. He has excellent sense and understands what is unfolding and what the appropriate response should be. He has great poise playing and the challenges of the game do not faze him in any way. He is a player who makes teams stronger.



Sportsnet

Analysis: Finn is one of the quicker rising prospects in the draft after a successful second half to his season unlocked the hidden promise to his game. He showed more poise and confidence rushing the puck and displays good potential as an offensive defenceman. His defensive game could use some improvement, but considering his quick rise and potential, Finn will be a valued prospect.



Redline Report – June, 13

At No. 8 on Red Line's list is Matt Finn, one of the safest bets to become a steady and dependable two-way rearguard. Finn sees the ice well and makes accurate outlets. What we like best about him is that all his movements are decisive and made with confidence. He makes very good decisions both with and without the puck, and shows fine hockey sense in all three zones. He's not flashy, but is highly efficient.



The Scouting Report

Finn came into the season with a chip on his shoulder after being cut from the Canadian entry at the Ivan Hlinka tournament and quickly went about dispelling any concerns about his game. Finn is a solid all-around player who has done a good job of improving his footwork this year and improving his skating. He really made his mark this year as a solid powerplay defenseman who was also counted on to play in all situations. Overall, Finn doesn’t really have any defining qualities that jump out at you, but he competes hard and doesn’t have any glaring weaknesses either. Given how much he improved this past season, it’s tough to cap what he can do moving forward.
- prock

Fair enough. I wasn't saying you were lying. Just that the rankings I'd seen usually had him from 20-30. There's always those few who drop, for whatever reason.

Fair enough. I wasn't saying you were lying. Just that the rankings I'd seen usually had him from 20-30. There's always those few who drop, for whatever reason.
- Fosco

yup. some for a reason (Angelo Esposito comes to mind), some of them look like it was a mistake letting them slip well past their ranking (other than Finn, Grigorenko maybe).

yup. some for a reason (Angelo Esposito comes to mind), some of them look like it was a mistake letting them slip well past their ranking (other than Finn, Grigorenko maybe).
- prock

Gaunce is another that comes to mind. He was ranked 10-20 in most pre-draft lists.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=76670

http://thehockeywriters.c...gs-the-next-ones-top-120/

just a few.

Esposito is an example of someone who dropped for a good reason...

Gaunce is another that comes to mind. He was ranked 10-20 in most pre-draft lists.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=76670

http://thehockeywriters.c...gs-the-next-ones-top-120/

just a few.

Esposito is an example of someone who dropped for a good reason...
- Fosco

Interesting, I wonder why he fell down the rankings a bit. I'm guessing there were concerns about his skating ability and offensive upside. He is on a pretty bad offensive team so we'll have to see how much offensive upside he really has.

Interesting, I wonder why he fell down the rankings a bit. I'm guessing there were concerns about his skating ability and offensive upside. He is on a pretty bad offensive team so we'll have to see how much offensive upside he really has.
- Nucker101

He's been struggling with it so far this season.

He was injured wasn't he?

He's been struggling with it so far this season.

He was injured wasn't he?
- prock

I think he broke his hand iirc.

I think he broke his hand iirc.
- boonerbuck

found this

http://prohockeytalk.nbcs...aunce-separates-shoulder/

found this

http://prohockeytalk.nbcs...aunce-separates-shoulder/
- prock

Shoulder bone is connected to the arm bone... and the arm bone is connected to the hand bone....