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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 19 @ 1:40 AM ET
It'll be interesting to see what happens. I hope, for Vancouver's sake, that he does stay with you guys. Hopefully he buys into the whole taking less for the team culture that you've got going on there. Look no further than Ehrhoff to see that greed can lead to failure.

I don't know what Edler's relationship is like with Salo or even Ohlund. Nor do I know whether or not Hedman and Edler have any sort of relationship. But optically, I would think that Tampa's defense would be a pretty attractive opportunity for Edler.

- Michael_Stuart


Well said. IMO losing Edler would have us go from NW division favourites to a tight battle with Minny, and if this whole season is lost then Edmenton's kids could be ready to make a push as well. Plus Minny and Edmonton have way better prospects than us and Colorado's entire core outside of Hejduk is young as well.


Edler to TB makes a ton of sense as long as Stevie Y can pay him the big bucks.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Dec 19 @ 1:41 AM ET
just looked at the fa's next summer, some pretty good defencemen, but almost all are old or dont have many prime years left..

edlers gonna get paid.

- hugefemale dog77


I hope Edler's agent hasn't done the same research
Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

Dec 19 @ 1:43 AM ET
Well said. IMO losing Edler would have us go from NW division favourites to a tight battle with Minny, and if this whole season is lost then Edmenton's kids could be ready to make a push as well. Plus Minny and Edmonton have way better prospects than us and Colorado's entire core outside of Hejduk is young as well.


Edler to TB makes a ton of sense as long as Stevie Y can pay him the big bucks.

- Nucker101


Yeah. I don't think you can afford to lose him - he hasn't reached his full potential yet. There's something really special there.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 19 @ 1:44 AM ET
Watch Philly throw stupid money at Edler. Detroit too.
- Michael_Stuart



Those are the two teams that I could see really going hard after him. Chicago as also apparently in the Suter sweepstakes, but I don't think Edler would do that to the Canucks. It would be horrible seeing him in Chicago or divisional rival like Edmonton.


PHI, DET and TB seem like the most likely destinations if he doesn't re-sign. Pitt also needs a D-Man.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 19 @ 1:47 AM ET
Yeah. I don't think you can afford to lose him - he hasn't reached his full potential yet. There's something really special there.
- Michael_Stuart



Agreed, you don't just let a d-man with his ability and in his prime just walk away for nothing. That's one of your most valuable assets that you just lost in return for nothing. I do expect that there will be a 10-14 day period once a CBA agreement is reached where teams with pending free agents will be allowed to try to re-sign their players before they become free agents.(Assuming this season is lost and an agreement isn't in place before July 1st).
Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

Dec 19 @ 1:51 AM ET
Agreed, you don't just let a d-man with his ability and in his prime just walk away for nothing. That's one of your most valuable assets that you just lost in return for nothing. I do expect that there will be a 10-14 day period once a CBA agreement is reached where teams with pending free agents will be allowed to try to re-sign their players before they become free agents.(Assuming this season is lost and an agreement isn't in place before July 1st).
- Nucker101


I like that idea and think it's a distinct possibility. But pleaseeee let there be a season of some sort. I started here in October and don't want to have to go 12 months without getting to write about a game
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Dec 19 @ 1:55 AM ET
Agreed, you don't just let a d-man with his ability and in his prime just walk away for nothing. That's one of your most valuable assets that you just lost in return for nothing. I do expect that there will be a 10-14 day period once a CBA agreement is reached where teams with pending free agents will be allowed to try to re-sign their players before they become free agents.(Assuming this season is lost and an agreement isn't in place before July 1st).
- Nucker101

i really hope so otherwise CGY is going to have a extremely tough year when that happens
nigelwright275
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 19 @ 1:56 AM ET
As for a team in the NW that could be hurt the worst i think it will be the flames.

Iggy would not sign an extension this summer because he wanted to see what the team would be like. He could now be a ufa. Good chance he leaves to try and get a cup with Calgary getting nothing for their franchise player. Add to the fact that Kipper will only be paid $1.5 million if no season, he might just stay in Europe with his family if Calgary goes full rebuild. Again the flames would get nothing for him. That is a team that can not afford to lose their 2 best players with nothing in return, considering their prospect pool is not that deep.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Dec 19 @ 2:21 AM ET
Those are the two teams that I could see really going hard after him. Chicago as also apparently in the Suter sweepstakes, but I don't think Edler would do that to the Canucks. It would be horrible seeing him in Chicago or divisional rival like Edmonton


PHI, DET and TB seem like the most likely destinations if he doesn't re-sign. Pitt also needs a D-Man.

- Nucker101



that would be a coup for the oil. EXACTLY the type of guy we need.

depending on the ceiling, i think the oil are in better shape signing the kids than alot of people think.
especially with abit of space we already have, a bunch of short term contracts and a few guys we just gonna let walk off the books in the next year or two .

but even still, l doubt we could afford to pay edler more than 4.5 before nuge etc become RFA.
first priority still has to be resigning them.

he'll get more than 4.5 on the open market
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 19 @ 10:31 AM ET
Well said. IMO losing Edler would have us go from NW division favourites to a tight battle with Minny, and if this whole season is lost then Edmenton's kids could be ready to make a push as well. Plus Minny and Edmonton have way better prospects than us and Colorado's entire core outside of Hejduk is young as well.


Edler to TB makes a ton of sense as long as Stevie Y can pay him the big bucks.

- Nucker101



I think next year Corrrado might be close to ready . Gillis will mot pay Edler stupid money. If Canucks can pick up a guy like Douglas Murray cheap for the 3 rd pairing . They can still have a decent D . If they pick up someone in the Luongo or Edler trade( if there is a season) . They will do alright. I think they are hoping on Garrison being a 40 pt man.

Hamhuis Bieksa
Garrison Tanev
Murray Corrado

??? Trade or UFA
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 19 @ 11:03 AM ET
What a poopty day in Vancouver. Probably going to spend a lot of time here today. Hope there is something interesting to talk about.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 19 @ 11:09 AM ET
What a poopty day in Vancouver. Probably going to spend a lot of time here today. Hope there is something interesting to talk about.
- bloatedmosquito

Best of luck with that.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 19 @ 11:13 AM ET
Looks like by the end of this week all December games will be cancelled.

Noticing more players starting to gripe about playing hockey outside of the NHL. The recent Lupul article about the KHL was priceless. Then he goes on to gripe about not being able to use MLSE services during the lockout. What did he expect?
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 19 @ 11:15 AM ET
How about a Luongo to the NYI trade?
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 19 @ 11:19 AM ET
Best of luck with that.
- LeftCoaster


If we can't find anything to talk about at least we can fall back to getting drunk and complaining about our wives.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 19 @ 11:21 AM ET
How about a Luongo to the NYI trade?
- LeftCoaster


Yeah, Lu and Edler for JT. Done.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 19 @ 11:35 AM ET
Yeah, Lu and Edler for JT. Done.
- bloatedmosquito

I was thinking more along the lines of Nino and Brock Nelson.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 19 @ 11:36 AM ET
If we can't find anything to talk about at least we can fall back to getting drunk and complaining about our wives.
- bloatedmosquito

Sadly, I'm at work. No alcohol here, guess I'll just head to bed and watch some Wicked Tuna for a bit.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 19 @ 11:46 AM ET
Tebow Time wants out of New York.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Dec 19 @ 11:54 AM ET
I think next year Corrrado might be close to ready .
- VANTEL



For the olympics?
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Dec 19 @ 12:01 PM ET
No way would Smid get that. Right now he's in the 3 range. Also Hamhuis is worth 6 but signed for less.
- Boinker



On what planet is Hamhuis in the top 10-12 paid dmen in the league?

He's paid right about what he's worth.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 19 @ 12:19 PM ET
Tebow Time wants out of New York.
- LeftCoaster


God told him so.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 19 @ 12:21 PM ET
Sadly, I'm at work. No alcohol here, guess I'll just head to bed and watch some Wicked Tuna for a bit.
- LeftCoaster


Wicked Tuna. Those shows crack me up. Duck Dynasty / Baring Sea Gold same thing.
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Dec 19 @ 12:25 PM ET
Well said. IMO losing Edler would have us go from NW division favourites to a tight battle with Minny, and if this whole season is lost then Edmenton's kids could be ready to make a push as well. Plus Minny and Edmonton have way better prospects than us and Colorado's entire core outside of Hejduk is young as well.


Edler to TB makes a ton of sense as long as Stevie Y can pay him the big bucks.

- Nucker101

Next season it already is a battle with minny wether you have elder or not.

Coyle and granlund are ready. Minny is going to be tough to beat over the next 5 years.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Dec 19 @ 12:29 PM ET
On what planet is Hamhuis in the top 10-12 paid dmen in the league?

He's paid right about what he's worth.

- prock


Don't act like you've seen Hamhuis play more than a couple times a year.

Guy was 10th in Norris voting, so he can't be that far off.
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