the players havent actually agreed to 50/50 yet. it's all been double talk, soft landings, guarantees, proposed cba finishing just when they would finally get to 50...etc

and the owners cant cave on all the contractual issues. they need parameters to limit themsleves...and they'll get it.
what about no term limits, but no guaranteed contracts instead?...exactly. shut up PA and sign the deal

Why is the meter back up to the hump? When I first read the blog it was below progress...

Josh Hamilton signs with the angels
- LetsGoIsles

For a second I thought he had OD'ed and died

For a second I thought he had OD'ed and died
- Canada Cup

The players who are part of the traveling group with Fehr have completely bought in and are willing to sacrifice their own careers and the careers of many other current players for the future players.
- eklund

What a crock of horse bleep. "willing to sacrifice their own careers and the careers of many other current and future players"? Riiiiiiiiiiiiight! Future players! Right on! Willing to sarcrifice their careers and that of others for what exactly? A few percent? These tools are talking like the league somehow isn't going to still be paying them millions of dollars a year! I don't know if this is your point of view Ek or you've actually heard them say this nonsense, but there is no way these guys are worried about future players. This is a money grab solely for themselves and no one else, this is about the future of the immediate players and if you believe that other garbage then you need to shut down this blog site and become a palm reader... I've heard they are very good at what they do also.

Sacrifice their careers? Good, let them go right ahead, I'd just as soon see the next 5 seasons canceled then let these spoiled little meat puppets get their way.

"Alright Hamilton!"
- Atomic Wedgie

Aloha!

Eklund: I'm not going to get into the reasons I have doubted your credibility in the past. I know people can change.

That said, if I'm going to have a reason to continue reading what you have to say regarding THIS lockout, you're going to need to tell us what your 'Hope' blog from nearly a week ago was all about.

What happened 'within' one of the sides?

For a second I thought he had OD'ed and died
- Canada Cup

how bout that contract? 125mil for something 5 years...I'm definitely having my son play base ball!!

I want to see them do this after every goal.
- Oilhab

2nd this

i know they do. I wouldn't waste my time if they didn't. others will choose not to believe that and that is their prerogative. They read the site and I talk to them daily. They are just people.
- Eklund

thats cool. Ive got a find a blog on here then to rip the palyers for ruining my holiday seaosn

can we stop responding to the 12,000 word post?
- Fountain-San

Why? I was using the responses as a Rosetta Stone substitute

dont flatter yourself cupcake.

For a second I thought he had OD'ed and died
- Canada Cup

#toosoon

Yeah the deal that will happen in January is the annoucement of the cancellation of the season.

Its funny looking at what you are typing about Fehr and how the owners feel about him, Makes me wonder if they talked to baseball owners from that lockout in the 90s because if i remember correctly the baseball owners were saying the same thing about him.

I'm old though so my memory sucks so i am probably wrong.

thats cool. Ive got a find a blog on here then to rip the palyers for ruining my holiday seaosn
- Popcorn Kid

that's why the WJC come to your rescue if you can stay up that late to watch

Eklund: I'm not going to get into the reasons I have doubted your credibility in the past. I know people can change.

That said, if I'm going to have a reason to continue reading what you have to say regarding THIS lockout, you're going to need to tell us what your 'Hope' blog from nearly a week ago was all about.

What happened 'within' one of the sides?
- Turkmenbashy

They let Fehr and Bettman back into the talks thats what happened.

The owners nor players will be pissed at this blog as Ek suggests as neither are reading this.
- Homer

I wouldn't doubt that some (and by some I mean a very few) players come on here. Many of them are young, bored, like to surf the web, etc. and probably are curious as to what people think of them. This doesn't include the Crosbys, Toews, and Millers of the world though.

Owners? No way.

Somebody deleting critical posts again.

did someone hack the optimism meter?

I've been Crosbys this whole time female doges!

i just had a post deleted and all it was, was questioning two statements EK made....nice
- Homer

You must be a player or else Ek wouldn't be wasting his time

Why is the meter back up to the hump? When I first read the blog it was below progress...
- dghill

I was going to ask the same question; I saw that just now and thought, "WTF?" It's gone from below progress to progress to now over the hump. Meanwhile,

55 minutes ago
@Real_ESPNLeBrun: Told it's still not clear whether both sides will meet today. Oy... Did I mention this lockout was soul-sucking?

and

2 hours ago
@DarrenDreger: A few players remain, but some have also left NJ-NYC. PA and mediator intend on mtng again this aft. So...we wait.

If something was getting close, I wouldn't expect to see the players leaving.

i just had a post deleted and all it was, was questioning two statements EK made....nice
- Homer

Yes, I noticed that too.

You must be a player or else Ek wouldn't be wasting his time
- Oilhab

Ive proved I know some things but usually in the Sabre boards is where I stay...but since not much is going on this is where the only discussions are really happening...

Yes, I noticed that too.
- Aliaksandrhn

censorship at its finest....i understand if i swore and stuff like that, but I didn't..no name calling, nothing...just rasied some quuestions.