BuffaloHardHat
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Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY Joined: 11.27.2012
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The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 11.17.2007
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Wow Eklund, you're earning your arena access this week. |
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Jethro09
New York Islanders |
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Location: NJ Joined: 08.16.2007
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F-ing DiPietro...
The only reason why there is still a lockout going on is because Donald Fehr is running the NHLPA. Fehr is not trying to "make a deal". He's trying to live up to his reputation as a "tough negotiator", which translates into forcing the owners to lock out the players by failing to engage the league in discussions prior to this past summer and telling the players to essentially leave him alone and let him decide when its time to make a deal.
Anyone who is familiar with MLB should know Fehr's M.O. at this point. Fehr doesn't negotiate. He makes demands and doesn't come off them. Hence the reason why all the concessions you read about come from the owners. He has a reputation to uphold. This lockout was a foregone conclusion once Fehr was hired by the NHLPA. |
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TrueBlue9182
New York Rangers |
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Location: NY Joined: 02.04.2010
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I dont care about any of this sh!t, get the deal done or cancel the season. I could care less how much money the players do or do not make or how much money the owners do or do not make. This is league is a (frank)ing farce. |
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david22
Ottawa Senators |
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Joined: 04.15.2008
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stop covering these clowns, paying them any attention and i'd bet we'd have a deal pretty fast. - philco28
Coming here is kind of the opposite of that statement. |
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I DON'T CARE ABOUT CARING |
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Flyers_1488
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philly , PA Joined: 05.15.2012
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fehr brothers are doing to hockey what jerry sandusky did to at risk youths. - ron_mexico7
LOL... " We Are ...... Penetration State " |
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fehr brothers are doing to hockey what jerry sandusky did to at risk youths. - ron_mexico7
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It isn't just about guys who already have 5 or more year contacts who would be hurt buy a 5 year limit. If there is a limit like that the thinking would be 5 year deals are for the stars, the top 5-10%. Then the 4 year deals would be the guys who are in the next 20-25%. The guys who are fringe 2nd mostly 3rd line guys would get 3 year deals and the lower 3rd line guys and 4th liners who just get the 1 maybe two year deals and would have to like year to year. With a 5 year limit you wouldn't see guys like Jason Chimera would not get 4 year deals like he did with the Jackets. You think with a 5 year limit on deals Jay Beagle gets a three year deal from the Caps or Justin Abdelkader gets a 4 year deal with the Wings? Heck no! The limt won't just hurt the top guys it will give owners a benchmark for what the stars get so the lower guys can't get that and will reduce the years of all contacts being signed. - icehammer97
Doubtful. Only what, 7% of players have contracts over 5 years? Majority of teams don't give out deals longer than that, and you don't see what you are talking about as a trend.
Remember also that 7 year deals will be possible for your own free agents. |
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walshy66
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: @walshy66 www.hockeyhurts.com Joined: 03.21.2008
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It isn't just about guys who already have 5 or more year contacts who would be hurt buy a 5 year limit. If there is a limit like that the thinking would be 5 year deals are for the stars, the top 5-10%. Then the 4 year deals would be the guys who are in the next 20-25%. The guys who are fringe 2nd mostly 3rd line guys would get 3 year deals and the lower 3rd line guys and 4th liners who just get the 1 maybe two year deals and would have to like year to year. With a 5 year limit you wouldn't see guys like Jason Chimera would not get 4 year deals like he did with the Jackets. You think with a 5 year limit on deals Jay Beagle gets a three year deal from the Caps or Justin Abdelkader gets a 4 year deal with the Wings? Heck no! The limt won't just hurt the top guys it will give owners a benchmark for what the stars get so the lower guys can't get that and will reduce the years of all contacts being signed. - icehammer97
thats the point, they want costs to slow down. If they can get a handle on inflation on player salaries, more clubs with be profitable and the league happier, the players will still increase, just at a slower rate. |
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stoned
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: A van down by the river Joined: 02.22.2008
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If the season is kaput , the rumoured "done deal" of Luongo to Toronto looks even worse, and should be pulled off the table by the Leafs.25% of his prime years left would be eliminated by next year, and who knows what a 1 year layoff would do to his game |
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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- Surrender Monkey
Hahah brilliant response to the post.
Well played!
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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The PA guys here will drag up some article, that describes some guy's opinion and reasoning why the 5 year contract limit will hurt the entire PA.
This will be presented as evidence in an argument against historical fact. The people presenting this "evidence" are not capable of understanding logic or reasoning. The concept of bring a knife to a gunfight is lost on these people. They just love their knives.
Then someone will come on here and go ballistic all over people and the thread will go to hell.
Tomorrow, on this thread, we will be discussing favorite Christmas recipes. |
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i'm serious. at least sandusky's victims got to attend games and received free nike gear. all we get from the fehr brothers is making gary bettman into a hero. freaking bilbo bettman. |
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Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: CA Joined: 06.07.2011
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What kings fan told you Wayne Simmonds was often invisible? Most nights he had the most hustle on the team.... |
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Fountain-San
Boston Bruins |
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Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME Joined: 02.21.2007
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i'm serious. at least sandusky's victims got to attend games and received free nike gear. all we get from the fehr brothers is making gary bettman into a hero. freaking bilbo bettman. - ron_mexico7
great post. |
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fehr brothers are doing to hockey what jerry sandusky did to at risk youths. - ron_mexico7
Real classy |
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bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: The Clit Whisperer Joined: 10.22.2011
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What kings fan told you Wayne Simmonds was often invisible? Most nights he had the most hustle on the team.... - Deadmau55
When they turn out the lights?
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Gary Bettmans interview the other day stated back in 2004 only one contract over 5 years now there is 60 contracts. Around 10%.
I like the 5 years plus option for 7 for sticking with own teams, as I believe this is the NHL version of non guaranteed contracts unlike what the NFL has and the two weeks the rest of us get. |
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When they turn out the lights? - bloatedmosquito
And the riot begins. |
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BuffaJoe
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: (frank) Lockouts, Bettman, GA Joined: 06.24.2011
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Noone seems to mention the possibility of a 7 year contract being allowed if a player resigns with their current team.
Just another reason the PA should already be on board with the concept. |
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Fountain-San
Boston Bruins |
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Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME Joined: 02.21.2007
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Noone seems to mention the possibility of a 7 year contract being allowed if a player re-signs with their current team.
Just another reason the PA should already be on board with the concept. - BuffaJoe
fixed. less confusion. |
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Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets |
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Location: Montreal, QC Joined: 06.03.2008
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i'm serious. at least sandusky's victims got to attend games and received free nike gear. all we get from the fehr brothers is making gary bettman into a hero. freaking bilbo bettman. - ron_mexico7
wtf ......I know everyone hates Fehr but you cant blame him for being good at what he does. |
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Fountain-San
Boston Bruins |
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Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME Joined: 02.21.2007
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wtf ......I know everyone hates Fehr but you cant blame him for being good at what he does. - Alexzanki
i don't think that's the real problem with the post. |
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bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: The Clit Whisperer Joined: 10.22.2011
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And the riot begins. - luckynumbslevin
Congrats, the first riot joke of the day... |
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