Not to mention the fact that it was Fehr who fought against drug testing even though everyone knew there was juicing going on.
- Dwight K. Schrute

i didnt know this. too funny. couldnt give an eff about the quality of the product, integrity of the game, health of the league, health of small franchises, the fans, or most importantly the big picture long term.

cares about nothing save squeezing every penny he can out of the owners pockets and making the market as untenable as possible for the majority of teams.

if he had his way, regardless of revenue, and how marginal the nhl is in the states, he would copy the ridiculous mlb model.
the nhl doesnt have near the loyal following or tradition in the states as the mlb and wouldnt be able to recover. it would be an absolute mess in ten years. worse than the 90's imo.

Its a game to Fehr, he must be on commission...MUST BE.

Its a game to Fehr, he must be on commission...MUST BE.
- bixll

Fehr gets paid whether there is a season or not. He's like JG Wentworth "it's my money and I want it now".

Fehr gets paid whether there is a season or not. He's like JG Wentworth "it's my money and I want it now".
- Dwight K. Schrute

Sad, I could have really screwed this process up for half of what they paid him..

Sad, I could have really screwed this process up for half of what they paid him..
- bixll

How about instructing your employee (GM) not to make these deals? Problem solved. I can offer this guidance at a cheap cost.
- fnmjoe13

Here is the misunderstanding... Instructing your employee to do that will force players to other teams...All teams doing that is bordering on collusion.

there is a reason your advice is cheap.

Fehr gets paid whether there is a season or not. He's like JG Wentworth "it's my money and I want it now".
- Dwight K. Schrute

I thought he only gets paid when a deal is done?

What. Do you mean the 24% rollback that saw the average players salary rise from 1.4 Million avg. to 2.4 milion since then?

You mean the long albatross contracts that the owners are trying to stop, and the players blocked an almost done deal to protect?

I guess it is greed for the owners to want thier profits to be at least 10% of revenues, or be able to see most if not all owners actually turn a profit. (neither of which was happening previously)
- steveb12344

What that owner who hired that gm who decided it was a good idea to give out those wages over the past 5, that lenght of contract of 6 plus years.
These idiot owners have put those contracts in front of the players, they would be stupid not to sign those deals

Tell me in your job your boss comes to you today and says we are going broke we need to cut your wage of 30k to 19k in order to stay in business what do you do?
Then nine months later they come to you and say we want to sign you to a new deal worth 70k for 12 years, what do you do?
My guess is you would say know do to your coments above.

It all starts with the owners handing this money out, minnisota is the best example, cried poor and then signs 150 mill worth of contract for 10 + years and says we can do this just before old cba gos out.

Fehr gets paid whether there is a season or not. He's like JG Wentworth "it's my money and I want it now".
- Dwight K. Schrute

Fehr and Bettman are not drawing a salary during lockout.

Yes! They are trying to put in rules so that the league can prosper not just a few teams. That is what is needed. If you don't get it, then you are as dumb as the players.
- Champ

did the players make the rules, think not, it was the owners that laid out the plan of the last cba that the playes were forced to accept, these same onwers that said this cba is what is going to make the nhl viable inthe future and make money for all team.
5 years later we are back to the same point again whith the onwers saying we can not afford the wages,
why? was it the players who gave out those contracts and put that contract in front of the player to sign?

Steve Goldstein ‏@goldieonice
on radio,@TSNBobMcKenzie "there are a lot of players and agents that said, I don't want to lose the season over this. let's take the deal"

What that owner who hired that gm who decided it was a good idea to give out those wages over the past 5, that lenght of contract of 6 plus years.
These idiot owners have put those contracts in front of the players, they would be stupid not to sign those deals

Tell me in your job your boss comes to you today and says we are going broke we need to cut your wage of 30k to 19k in order to stay in business what do you do?
Then nine months later they come to you and say we want to sign you to a new deal worth 70k for 12 years, what do you do?
My guess is you would say know do to your coments above.

It all starts with the owners handing this money out, minnisota is the best example, cried poor and then signs 150 mill worth of contract for 10 + years and says we can do this just before old cba gos out.
- dav12389

How about if it is the agent that puts the contract in front of the GM with the threat that if it is not signed the player walks...GMs don't want to lose their stars...

did the players make the rules, think not, it was the owners that laid out the plan of the last cba that the playes were forced to accept, these same onwers that said this cba is what is going to make the nhl viable inthe future and make money for all team.
5 years later we are back to the same point again whith the onwers saying we can not afford the wages,
why? was it the players who gave out those contracts and put that contract in front of the player to sign?
- dav12389

Looks like the players did quite well for themselves in that terrible deal for them...at the prosperity for the league as a whole.

How about if it is the agent that puts the contract in front of the GM with the threat that if it is not signed the player walks...GMs don't want to lose their stars...
- OilHorse

Again did the owners and gms have to pay the player, answer is no. dont sign them to a deal and then try to take back

Looks like the players did quite well for themselves in that terrible deal for them...at the prosperity for the league as a whole.
- OilHorse

did say they didnt, saying it was the owners cba which they said was what the leagued need to make money, 5 years later they say no it wasnt what we had in mind and now we need that money and contracts we gave you back so we can try it again, this new cba is what we need and we can live with.
kinda funny how it was the onwers signing guys just before the old cba died to those things that they say we need back in this cba

The big issue over this CBA is that the players are still bitter about the last CBA. Why? Because everybody claimed they got "creamed" and "slaughtered" on paper and it was a brutal process... Did it actually happen that way? No. Look at the average salaries, like Bettman said last night, from the start of the last CBA. I don't get how you can be so bitter about something that you're pretty much fighting tooth and nail to try and keep in place. If they "lost" so bad last time, why are they willing to fore-go another whole season to keep the the conditions of the previous CBA the same?

All the players are doing is living in the moment, showing no sense for the future at all. Yeah, a reduction to 50-50 SEEMS bad right now, but will it in 10 years when the average salary climbs higher than ever? Plus, with make whole, they won't even be at 50-50 for another 3-4 years, where the pie could have been (with no lock-out and previous momentum) so much larger anyway.

Bottom line: players are stupid. They are amazing at hockey and great guys personally (most of them), but stupid as hell. The sooner they accept that, the better for us.

Fire Fehr yes but fire Bettman also. Three straight lockouts?? Healthy league?? I don't think so.

Put Gretzky as the commissionner. He knows whats good for hockey. He is hockey.

And for the players?? Fock the union. First, a union for Millionnaires?? For god's sake.

Second,they dont need this. The owners are dumb enough to give the world for a player. Union is tearing the players apart. Dumb system.
- soad_live

Gretz couldn't commission himself out of a wet paper bag.

Gretz couldn't commission himself out of a wet paper bag.
- bloatedmosquito

"He should become a coach. He will be amazing at it. He know everything about hockey."

Richard Cloutier: At Least We Know Who the Problem is Now
- Maxbone

Completely Agree...Fehr has been a cancer to these negotiations since the day he was introduced as leader of the NHLPA...

If you have your head shoved far up the NHL's ass then sure.
- Jack-artist

take fehr's knob out of your mouth when you speak, I can't understand you.

Donald is getting off on this... See!


- laughs2907

He's getting " Hainseyed "

I keep seeing people at they supported the players.... Until last night.


Have yet to see anyone go from supporting the owners to the players.

I keep seeing people at they supported the players.... Until last night.


Have yet to see anyone go from supporting the owners to the players.
- robin_steele264

Proud supporter of the owners since day 1 right hurrrrrrrrrr

<-------- Cool as (frank)

New Solution: Bryzgalov and Snider should meet next...."Bear in Woods"

Hey -- cheers dude. Yo have your opinion, thats cool. But stop thinking yoru opinion is God's honest truth.
- Beatle_john

Sorry for the truth bomb....
- Beatle_john

Can't have it both ways friendo.