l3ig_l2ecl
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Unfortunately, QC Joined: 07.01.2009
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When that game generatd billions in revenue, yes. Your mistake is calling it a game when it's a business. - MJL
People need to stop talking about Revenue so much. Profit is in most cases as this one more important. Players 1.65billion pie is 100% league profits. The rest of the profits it $250mil. $250 mil is the take home for these owners. Yet they paid 1.65bil to players. Yes, revenue is high, but their profit split is off. |
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l3ig_l2ecl
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Unfortunately, QC Joined: 07.01.2009
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I understand the process of a negotiation. But you clearly missed the point. A negotiation is give and take. Not seek and destroy. Which was the NHL's approach until the latter parts of this negotiation. - MJL
OMG COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How the (frank) are you still so blind?
No matter what was going to happen before these negotiations, the end result was going to be 50/50. WHY? Because it's what the NBA and NFL models are. It was always going to be there.
It's not Seek and Destroy. Stop your hate towards the owners. It's just making you blind towards reality. |
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The-O-G
Calgary Flames |
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Joined: 11.29.2011
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@aaronward_nhl: "At this stage, doesn't appear the Union will take this present NHL offer to a full vote. PA still actively engaged in internal meetings #NHL"
I am pretty sure all we need to do is get any of these offers to a full NHLPA vote and we will have hockey once again. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Not arguing with you here, but just asking for your opinion. Why are the players against a term limit on contracts? If there is a term limit of 5 years then at the very least they can negotiate a new contract every 5 years, if not less. Virtually 100% of the time, a new contract equals a RAISE. Except for maybe very late in their career. Instead of being locked into an 8yr plus contract for a certain dollar amount, why wouldnt it be preferable to be in a 5 yr deal for that amount and then sign another contract for even more dollars as salaries always rise. - Donnie27J
Players like security. They want the ability to maximize their earning potential. The more restrictions on contracts, the harder that is to do. Top players can earn top dollar for longer contracts. There is always the risk of injury playing this game. |
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l3ig_l2ecl
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Unfortunately, QC Joined: 07.01.2009
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@aaronward_nhl: "At this stage, doesn't appear the Union will take this present NHL offer to a full vote. PA still actively engaged in internal meetings #NHL"
I am pretty sure all we need to do is get any of these offer to a full NHLPA vote and we will have hockey once again. - The-O-G
The offer from October 15th would have passed in a full NHLPA vote. |
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IrishRage
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็༼ ຈل͜ຈ༽ส�, ON Joined: 08.02.2008
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@aaronward_nhl: "At this stage, doesn't appear the Union will take this present NHL offer to a full vote. PA still actively engaged in internal meetings #NHL"
I am pretty sure all we need to do is get any of these offers to a full NHLPA vote and we will have hockey once again. - The-O-G
Whats in it for me to believe you? |
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The-O-G
Calgary Flames |
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Joined: 11.29.2011
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The offer from October 15th would have passed in a full NHLPA vote. - l3ig_l2ecl
I agree....I believe deep down any of these offers would be accepted by the majority of players if it went to a vote. |
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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: CLASS DISMISSED Joined: 12.15.2011
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are you single? - Dudestar
Split up at 4 years around last December. It was not a fun time. |
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l3ig_l2ecl
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Unfortunately, QC Joined: 07.01.2009
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Players like security. They want the ability to maximize their earning potential. The more restrictions on contracts, the harder that is to do. Top players can earn top dollar for longer contracts. There is always the risk of injury playing this game. - MJL
Yes, we finally agree on something. Top players sould earn Top dollars. I like Crosbys (not anymore, realized it's back diving) contract. As well as Ovies.
I think by controlling the back diving effect, and potentially making the contract the actual cap hit, we are in business.. |
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The-O-G
Calgary Flames |
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Joined: 11.29.2011
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Whats in it for me to believe you? - IrishRage
Because right now there's nothing else to believe in. |
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The-O-G
Calgary Flames |
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Joined: 11.29.2011
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Split up at 4 years around last December. It was not a fun time. - Giroux_Is_God
Still in school and you had a 4 year relationship? Dude, you went about that all wrong! |
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IrishRage
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็༼ ຈل͜ຈ༽ส�, ON Joined: 08.02.2008
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aeroagm
Nashville Predators |
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Location: Nashville, TN Joined: 02.26.2012
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Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Dauphin, MB Joined: 02.07.2011
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@Real_ESPNLeBrun: And if I had to weigh Mr. Optimism vs. Captain Negative this morning, I'd favor the odds on Captain Negative
Is he talking about Ek?? |
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Split up at 4 years around last December. It was not a fun time. - Giroux_Is_God
I am sorry |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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People need to stop talking about Revenue so much. Profit is in most cases as this one more important. Players 1.65billion pie is 100% league profits. The rest of the profits it $250mil. $250 mil is the take home for these owners. Yet they paid 1.65bil to players. Yes, revenue is high, but their profit split is off. - l3ig_l2ecl
No, Revenue is highly important. It pays the bills. Part of owning a sports team is the Franchise value, not just the yearly income. Plus, teams have way of "hiding" money to show less of a profit then is really there. |
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IrishRage
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็༼ ຈل͜ຈ༽ส�, ON Joined: 08.02.2008
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and now we have some positives...
Sportsnet @Sportsnet
Despite some contentious issues left to resolve, #NHL & #NHLPA seem to be inching closer to #CBA deal. http://bit.ly/YQMuQ4 @michaelgrange
How do any of these insiders know what the feelings are like if both groups havent even met yet??? |
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annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t Joined: 07.16.2006
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i want to punch Fehr - bobbyflex
in the ovaries |
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aeroagm
Nashville Predators |
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Location: Nashville, TN Joined: 02.26.2012
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How did the NHL generate over 3B in revenue last year then? - MJL
Because everyone is at the game, not watching on TV. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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OMG COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How the (frank) are you still so blind?
No matter what was going to happen before these negotiations, the end result was going to be 50/50. WHY? Because it's what the NBA and NFL models are. It was always going to be there.
It's not Seek and Destroy. Stop your hate towards the owners. It's just making you blind towards reality. - l3ig_l2ecl
What you're blind to is that the end result of 50/50 could've been reached sooner. There is more at stake then just 50/50. There are other issues in play. Also how you get to 50/50 is key. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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OMG COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How the (frank) are you still so blind?
No matter what was going to happen before these negotiations, the end result was going to be 50/50. WHY? Because it's what the NBA and NFL models are. It was always going to be there.
It's not Seek and Destroy. Stop your hate towards the owners. It's just making you blind towards reality. - l3ig_l2ecl
What you're blind to is that the end result of 50/50 could've been reached sooner. There is more at stake then just 50/50. There are other issues in play. Also how you get to 50/50 is key. |
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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: CLASS DISMISSED Joined: 12.15.2011
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Still in school and you had a 4 year relationship? Dude, you went about that all wrong! - The-O-G
Sorry I disappointed you.... |
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Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets |
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Location: Montreal, QC Joined: 06.03.2008
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@aaronward_nhl: At this stage,doesn't appear the Union will take this present NHL offer to a full vote.PA still actively engaged in internal meetings #TSN
GODAMM IT |
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MnGump
Minnesota Wild |
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Location: Columbus, MN Joined: 06.21.2012
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of course - Fountain-San
Nice! |
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