How on earth did you expect Burke to build a winner in 4 years after the poop that he inherited? And not trading for Kessel wouldn't have us in any better of a position...
- BoBBeR56

Of course not.

Well yeah I'd agree there if they are out of it and he doesn't sign an extension he will would likely be traded.
- robin_steele264

Those are pretty much the options. Either he walks, gets traded or gets grossly overpaid to stay.

Any sane, knowlegable fan of hockey who can view the tenure of Brian Burke with any objectivity would say that he has done a good to great job.
- Jimmy_Tea

Because that's exactly what you are.

Wouldn't it make more sense to compare Kessels first two seasons to Seguins first two?


I don't think it'll be as favorable for Kessel.
- robin_steele264

Why? People are saying Seguin is better NOW then Kessel is NOW...a 57pt difference over 2years says that Seguin isn't close...

Ok whatever. Guess he went there for the huge contract the Oilers could offer.


However you wanna spin it.



- robin_steele264

He went there because of the opening on the defense, and the bright future of the team.

Kinda like how we got Bozak, Scrivens, and Gustavsson.(say what you will about how that "bright" future has panned out, but the perception of it was there, anyways)

Of course not.
- Two_For_Truth

Love how you highlight one section, while completely ignoring the question...
Right, cause having a 25yr old that was 6th in the NHL in scoring is terrible

Because that's exactly what you are.
- Two_For_Truth

He is definitely closer to being knowledgable than you are...
All you do is spout off negativity all over the place, without any actually knowledge or sane thought...

Because that's exactly what you are.
- Two_For_Truth

Hi Glenn!

He went there because of the opening on the defense, and the bright future of the team.

Kinda like how we got Bozak, Scrivens, and Gustavsson.(say what you will about how that "bright" future has panned out, but the perception of it was there, anyways)
- Feeling Glucky?

We should go for a beer one of these days.

Love how you highlight one section, while completely ignoring the question...
Right, cause having a 25yr old that was 6th in the NHL in scoring is terrible
- BoBBeR56

I love how you highlight the last two years and completely ignore the future that both Seguin and Hamilton have ahead of them.

He is definitely closer to being knowledgable than you are...
All you do is spout off negativity all over the place, without any actually knowledge or sane thought...
- BoBBeR56

Yes, Jimmy_Tea is extremely knowledgeable. Not only does he hold a degree in probability theory and literature but he is also a critical theory professor. He is the epitome of knowledge.

We should go for a beer one of these days.
- Tee-Dot

dontcha live in london?

Dougie Hamilton=Overrated.

We should go for a beer one of these days.
- Tee-Dot

And chicken wings!!!!

When you find yourself in bed with an ugly woman, best close your eyes and get it over with

Lupul Seguin JVR

Mac Grabo Kul

Frattin Bozak Kadri

Brown Steckel Mcclement


Gunner Phaneuf

Rielly Hamilton

Liles Gardiner

ex: franson

Worst possible thing to do is trade 2 unknown first rounders without the season done..

...


- Mapleleafs_91

That's no more of a playoff team than what we have now

I want Burke at the helm if Getz & Perry hit free agency..

I want Burke at the helm if Getz & Perry hit free agency..
- SameOld

Why? So they can sign elsewhere?

Regardless, Burke is right. He does not want to make the playoffs and lose first round and i respect that. Our TEAM is not ready for playoffs. We dont have "the team" yet. The guy has made good trades... majority of trades he won besides the kessel and ashton trade. The signing of tim connolly was a poor excuse of getting a centerman since we lost out on the richards signing. The point of connolly was a signing for the sake to get a godamn centerman which was pretty dumb and the role could of gone to a young gun like kadri or colborne. As of now we have no goaltender, we have no proper centerman. Thats our 2 biggest concerns. Our defense roles will get filled in, we have a good top 4, but the bottom 2 could be filled in with guys like franson if resigned, holzer, if rielly makes the team, if percy impresses, if blacker steps up, we have fall backs. For forward wise, we have no number one center for first line. We have the wingers and possibly we need another but thats not the biggest case since we have players who can fill those roles in. For goalies we have no fallbacks.

Kessel ____?____(no proper centerman) Lupul(resigned)

JVR Grabo Mac(if resigned, doubt it)/Kadri

Frattin Colborne/Bozak(if resigned, prob traded) Kulemin

Brown Steckel(resigned cheap) Mcclement


Gunner Phaneuf

Liles Gardiner

Franson(if resigned) ________(holzer, rielly, percy, blacker, matt finn) as fall backs


_____(no proper goalie)

Reimer
- Mapleleafs_91

"Ha the battles, I've won every battle. Then why am I losing this war?"

- Robb Stark

Yes, Jimmy_Tea is extremely knowledgeable. Not only does he hold a degree in probability theory and literature but he is also a critical thinking professor. He is the epitome of knowledge.
- Two_For_Truth

fixed...just sayin

The NHL Draft order is based on the odds to win the 2013 Stanley Cup. Teams that have the same odds, are listed in alphabetical order.

they didn't even follow their own plan. There are only 7 team with 3 balls (leafs are one), so the Leafs should be no lower than 7
- burn

Columbus will have 5 balls and 3 picks, they have the Rangers and Kings 1st rounders. Highly unlikely but theoretically they can get 3 lottery picks.

How do you figure Leafs should pick no lower than 7th?

Dougie Hamilton=Overrated.
- jbold

obviously....hes not a leaf

When you find yourself in bed with an ugly woman, best close your eyes and get it over with
- AdamFrench

Sigh, this is going to hurt me, more than it's going to hurt you.

Dougie Hamilton=Overrated.
- jbold

It would be awesome for the Leafs of he just totally sucked and amounted to nothing at all, wouldn't it?

It would be awesome for the Leafs of he just totally sucked and amounted to nothing at all, wouldn't it?



- robin_steele264

Definitely on my xmas list. Right after a Seguin concussion or three.