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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 30 @ 12:06 PM ET
well it was much easier to score back then and he had teammates like coffey/kurri.
- Leaffan8113


And Dave Semenko
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 30 @ 12:07 PM ET
If I decided to play in the NHL, I probably would of done it.

Numbers like those aren't that hard. Especially for me.

Because I'm amazing.

- jbold


Those would just be the stats from your first year in the league.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Nov 30 @ 12:08 PM ET
Except they weren't that good.

They were pretty average. Nothing special.

- jbold




Not even... Above average....


Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Nov 30 @ 12:08 PM ET
Daryl Sittler had a 10 point game. Way better than that Wayne kid you guys are talking about
- PatC80


Maurice Richard was once named the first, second and third star of the same game.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Nov 30 @ 12:09 PM ET
well it was much easier to score back then and he had teammates like coffey/kurri.
- Leaffan8113



So other guys shoulda been close to him in points cause it was so easy to score....



Hmmmm



Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 30 @ 12:10 PM ET
Maurice Richard was once named the first, second and third star of the same game.
- Scabeh

The French looking for more handouts.
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Nov 30 @ 12:10 PM ET
Those would just be the stats from your first year in the league.
- PatC80

Probably the first 10 games or so.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 30 @ 12:11 PM ET
So other guys shoulda been close to him in points cause it was so easy to score....



Hmmmm

- robin_steele264


Exactly. In that era, Dan Daoust played on a line with Gary Leeman(maybe once, or twice) but still...How many 100+ point seasons did he have?

Game...Set.....Match!
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 30 @ 12:14 PM ET
Probably the first 10 games or so.
- jbold


Ok that's it. Your GIF, I've had enough of it. It bothers me so much.... From now on, I am calling that dance the "Karlsson"
Leaffan8113
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Quit listening to Dreger. He', ON
Joined: 01.10.2012

Nov 30 @ 12:15 PM ET
So other guys shoulda been close to him in points cause it was so easy to score....



Hmmmm

- robin_steele264

http://www.quanthockey.co...86-nhl-players-stats.html

ok, obviously Gretzky is in a whole other league compared to those two guys i mentioned that's why no one was close to his points but if Gretzky was drafted today there's no way in hell he ever puts up numbers like that. BTW check out Lemieux +/-
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Nov 30 @ 12:18 PM ET
What are you talkiing about? Sure, if they let Kessel walk then it would be idiotic, but why on earth would Burke let his signature player walk away? The guy is as untouchable as a player can be in the NHL. Burke will not only resign him, he will never trade him. Whether your a mouth breathing dumbass like myself or an analytical genius who hates the trade, Burke is gonna live with it forever.
- Jimmy_Tea

Some players like to test UFA status....sorry to shatter your world.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Nov 30 @ 12:21 PM ET
http://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/seasons/1985-86-nhl-players-stats.html

ok, obviously Gretzky is in a whole other league compared to those two guys i mentioned that's why no one was close to his points but if Gretzky was drafted today there's no way in hell he ever puts up numbers like that. BTW check out Lemieux +/-

- Leaffan8113



75 pts ahead of Mario.

He wouldn't put up 200 points today, but he'd still blow everyone out of the water.


Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Nov 30 @ 12:22 PM ET
Backstrom is one of the best centres in the league, but just look at the other comments this guy makes, so who cares.

And anyone who thinks the number one centre thing isnt over blown is an idiot.

Look, centres are important but what is key is having 2 players on the same line who demand the attention of the other teams best defensemen. The gap between the 1 and 2 D man is usually incredible and if you can draw the second guy to your best player that is how you score.

Lupul and Kessel, until Lupul got injured, where top 5 in scoring. Just how many more points would they have gotten if they had an elite centre? Not many.

Thats not to say it isnt important to have a centre, but saying "most teams who win the cup have one" is disengenous because most teams have a top centre. Theres like 20 of them in a 30 team league. So your argument is a false equivalency.

What you NEED on a hockey team is 2 guys on the same line who can draw the D away from each other. Secondly, you need a second line that can score. With JVR the Leafs have a solid second line now.

Anyone who thinks the Leafs would be or cant be an elite team until they get the mythical number one centre is stupid. Sure a centre is a good thing to have, but to align your team by position never works. You don't say "we need a centre more than we need a winger" you say "I want the best player available". Seguin plays for a stacked team on a line with Bergeron, who , after Elias, is the most under rated hockey player in the world, Seguin is a solid player, but Phil Kessel is a dynamic superstar.

- Jimmy_Tea

All that I get from your comments is that if someone doesn't agree with you, they are an idiot.
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Nov 30 @ 12:23 PM ET
Maurice Richard was once named the first, second and third star of the same game.
- Scabeh

Yeah what a mockery.
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Nov 30 @ 12:26 PM ET
well it was much easier to score back then and he had teammates like coffey/kurri.
- Leaffan8113

or the infamous blair macdonald
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Nov 30 @ 12:29 PM ET
Only four teams had 3 balls in the Crosby draft and they picked 1st, 6th, 12th, and 13th. To say The Leafs should pick in the top 7 is the same as saying all teams with similar odds should pick in the top 7, thats almost impossible. I'd take 10-1 odds that at least one of those 7 teams won't get a top 15 pick.
- awfside




Perhaps you are missing the point that it is their criteria. I never said that is how it will happen, only that it is how it should happen (in their scenario).
hockeylegend488
Edmonton Oilers
Location: fredericton
Joined: 07.25.2011

Nov 30 @ 12:32 PM ET
I honestly think if the leafs could entice both getzlaf and perry that be hugh. But ide bet there salarys would prove to be far to rich gor the leafs. There gonna try and cOmand simular to what suter and parise got in minesota. If the leafs could rid themselves of connoly komiserek and get lupul for alot less then he is now then mabye but those arent burke type contracts or yearly amounts most teams can afford in a cap world
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 30 @ 12:33 PM ET
I honestly think if the leafs could entice both getzlaf and perry that be hugh. But ide bet there salarys would prove to be far to rich gor the leafs. There gonna try and cOmand simular to what suter and parise got in minesota. If the leafs could rid themselves of connoly komiserek and get lupul for alot less then he is now then mabye but those arent burke type contracts or yearly amounts most teams can afford in a cap world
- hockeylegend488

longbottom?
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Nov 30 @ 12:34 PM ET
I honestly think if the leafs could entice both getzlaf and perry that be hugh. But ide bet there salarys would prove to be far to rich gor the leafs. There gonna try and cOmand simular to what suter and parise got in minesota. If the leafs could rid themselves of connoly komiserek and get lupul for alot less then he is now then mabye but those arent burke type contracts or yearly amounts most teams can afford in a cap world
- hockeylegend488

Lombardi and Connolly come off the books.

Same with MacArthur and a few others
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Nov 30 @ 12:39 PM ET
Lupul-Getzlaf-Kessel
JVR-Grabovski-Kadri
Frattin-McClement-Kulemin
Brown-Steckel-Komarov

Phaneuf-Scuderi
Gardiner-Gunnarson
Rielly-Liles

luongo
Riemer


2013 lineup


robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Nov 30 @ 12:40 PM ET
longbottom?
- AdamFrench



Seems like a hybrid mix between him and hallwillcrushu



LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 30 @ 12:42 PM ET
Canucks suck.
- robin_steele264

Hey...what's that all about?
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 30 @ 12:43 PM ET
Seems like a hybrid mix between him and hallwillcrushu
- robin_steele264

I like hugefemale dog
hockeylegend488
Edmonton Oilers
Location: fredericton
Joined: 07.25.2011

Nov 30 @ 12:43 PM ET
Whats longbottum
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 30 @ 12:43 PM ET
Lupul-Getzlaf-Kessel
JVR-Grabovski-Kadri
Frattin-McClement-Kulemin
Brown-Steckel-Komarov

Phaneuf-Scuderi
Gardiner-Gunnarson
Rielly-Liles

luongo
Riemer


2013 lineup



- jbold


So, Corey Perry is a healthy scratch?
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