See what I don't get with Burke is this:
You guys all say he has a surplus of goalies. Why can't he trade one of them and get a future stud centerman like Montreal did with Halak?

In response to whether or not Burke deserves to stay.

my two cents.

A GM is doing a good job if the team is better than it was. How do you measure this? Success on ice? or better positioned on ice?

I measure it by the talent pool on the team, the talent pool in the ranks, and the talent we are able to attract.

When Burke arrived, our top line was Poni-Stajan-Antro. Stajan is basically gone, and Poni and Antro are 3rd line players.

Top line now Lupul - Bozak - Kessel. During the year, Lupul and Kessel (both Burke acquisitions) were top 5 in scoring. I consider this a plus

+1 Burke

Second line
was Blake - Moore - Hagman is now Kulemin - Grabo - MacArthur

Although the second line is much better, Kulemin is a benefit of JFJ's drafting and Grabo is a benefit of the Silver Fox fleecing the Habs. MacArthur is the only addition to this line. However, a 25 goal scorer is a good thing to have.

+1 Burke

Trades
Kessel +1
Seguin -1
Dougie Hamilton -1
Knight 0
Phaneuf +1
Aulie +1
Sjostrom -1
Stajan +1
Hagman +1
Mayars +1
White -1
getting rid of Kaberle +1
Biggs +1
Colbourne +1
getting Versteeg -1
Bill Sweatt -1
Stahlberg - 1
Didomenico 0
Paradis 0
trading Blake +1
trading Toskala +1
Giguere +1 (was good, just ran into groin problems)
Lupul +1
Gardiner +1
getting rid of Versteeg +1
Percy +1
getting rid of Lebda +1
Franson +1
Lombardi -1
Keith Aulie -1
Carter Ashton -1
Steckel 0
Kubina -1
Exelby -1
Liles +1

There are more trades in picks and stuff, but let's keep it simpler than that

Final score: Burke +8

Free Agency
Komisarek -1
Connolly -1
Beachemin -1
MacArthur +1
Lebda -1
Gustavsson -1
Bozak +1
McClement unknown
Armstrong -1
Rickard Wallin -1

Free Agents = -5

Prospects

Remember, when looking at prospects, very few make the jump to the pros in their first year. a 4-5 year development is a good prospect. That means that we haven't really seen Burke's prospect enter the NHL yet.
Prospects that are panning out now

JFJ left us with
2004
Pogge BUST
Kukumberg BUST
Vorobiev BUST
Robbie Earl BUST
Semenov BUST
Steber BUST
Norton BUST
2005
Rask <- who JFJ Traded
Oreskovic - BUST
Berry - BUST
Dahlberg - BUST
Stralman - he made it!! but not as a real full timer
Rau - BUST
2006
Tlusty - not really a 1st round pro
Kulemin - FINALLY A PROSPECT!!!!!
Reimer - decent
Holzer - maybe, but still in AHL
Stahlberg - a prospect
ruegsegger - BUST
Komarov - old prospect now
Frank - BUST
Ferreiro - BUST
2007
first and second rounder traded for Toskala
Dale Mitchell Bust
Frattin - Good Job
Winnett - BUST
Mikus - BUST
Didmenico - meh
Gunnarsson - Prospect

In his four years of drafting, JFJ added one second line player, and a few third line players, one good D, and a goalie prospect. He traded our top g prospect for Raycroft.

In Burke's four years, he's added
FA college signing
Irwin
Hanson
Bozak
Brenner
Gustavvsson
Rynnas
Owuya

drafted
Kadri almost a PPG player in the AHL, still developing
Ryan - meh
Blacker - great shutdown D in AHL
Devane BUST
Knodel - University league,
D'Amigo - had an awesome playoff run in the AHL
Smith BUST
2010
Ross - Decent
McKegg - first year Pro
Olden - BUST
Granberg - meh, shut down in SEL
Carrick - meh
Brodin - meh
Nichols - meh
2011
Biggs - looking good in OHL
Percy - looking good in OHL
Leivo - looking food in OHL
Nilsson - meh
Camarensi - meh
Broll - looking good
Sparks- a hidden gem. might be ok
Everson - meh
2012
Rielly - tearing up the WHL
Finn - high scoring D in OHL
Toninato - first year college
Brown - looking good
Rupert - big surprise
Loov - meh

Burke's stocking the cupboards

All in all, Burke has done better, our team is improving. It will take time to pay off
- ILoveLamp

agreed.

See what I don't get with Burke is this:
You guys all say he has a surplus of goalies. Why can't he trade one of them and get a future stud centerman like Montreal did with Halak?
- tennisball

hilarious sean.

Mike Augello: Will Burke Survive Till His Next Anniversary?
- mikeinbuffalo

He is part of the worse sports record, missing the playoff from cba to cba.

jvr is looking fat like a pig

hilarious sean.
- dt99999

Actually it's Jean you twit.

I know you ate Eller but he's just starting to come into is own as evidenced by is 4 goal game last year. I expect a few more of those kinds of games dis year.

jvr is looking fat like a pig
- Crimsoninja

dude. he's logged in. show some respect.

Actually it's Jean you twit.

I know you hate Eller but he's just starting to come into is own as evidenced by is 4 goal game last year. I expect a few more of those kinds of games this year.
- tennisball

dude. he's logged in. show some respect.
- Fountain-San

MJL = JVR ?

See what I don't get with Burke is this:
You guys all say he has a surplus of goalies. Why can't he trade one of them and get a future stud centerman like Montreal did with Halak?
- tennisball

I wouldnt get on people about bad trades if were judgeing a gm gauthier was as they get

I wouldnt get on people about bad trades if were judgeing a gm gauthier was as they get
- hockeylegend488

again in english

That's what I thought..... It's been awhile since that convo, but that's what I thought.
- burn

Ah ok.

Actually it's Jean you twit.

I know you ate Eller but he's just starting to come into is own as evidenced by is 4 goal game last year. I expect a few more of those kinds of games dis year.
- tennisball

- Rtt19

that was laughable

that was laughable
- bobbyisno1

yep.

that was laughable
- bobbyisno1

U guys are





mmmmmmmmmm nice jugs

PS.

I feel sorry for Morgan Rielly. Why? He's playing on a terrible team in the WHL.
Moose Jaw only has 4 players above 0 in +/- and he's leading them with +4.

There's no scoring support and his goalie is a rookie with a .900 SV%.

Kid needs to be traded to Kamloops or Portland.

See what I don't get with Burke is this:
You guys all say he has a surplus of goalies. Why can't he trade one of them and get a future stud centerman like Montreal did with Halak?
- tennisball

Well, none of them are as good as Halak

PS.

I feel sorry for Morgan Rielly. Why? He's playing on a terrible team in the WHL.
Moose Jaw only has 4 players above 0 in +/- and he's leading them with +4.

There's no scoring support and his goalie is a rookie with a .900 SV%.

Kid needs to be traded to Kamloops or Portland.
- ILoveLamp

i'd like to see him on edmonton with his buddy Reinhart

Well, none of them are as good as Halak
- coolehmon41

and where are we gonna find a super-star like Eller?

and where are we gonna find a super-star like Eller?
- Feeling Glucky?

and where are we gonna find a super-star like Eller?
- Feeling Glucky?

He's no superstar but I like his game

we should move rielly to centre.

and where are we gonna find a super-star like Eller?
- Feeling Glucky?

Tennisball is a Stormey alt

we should move rielly to centre.
- XxHarounXx

We can always trade him for a center(ducks and hides from angry Leaf fans for suggesting it)